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Stadium deal ends in 2018. (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Aug 23, 2016
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Wheelfass

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #1
I fear the worst.......
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/football-league-in-regular-dialogue-11773386
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #2
It needs to come to a head. 1 way or the other
 

Wheelfass

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #3
covcity4life said:
It needs to come to a head. 1 way or the other
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It does of course but if none of the parties will talk to each other then it's just stalemate until the day dawns when we have nowhere to play the game. And that unfortunately seems ever likely.
 
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SkyBlueSid

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #4
I remember saying three years ago that to identify a new stadium site, go through the planning process, and get the thing built, would probably take 5 years. That 5 years is up in 2018. Had Fisher & Co actually done what they said they would do, the deadline was achievable.

The club have wasted the last three years, being more content to pursue unwinnable court cases. Of course, most of us didn't believe there would ever be a new stadium, but it is clear now that they never intended to build one. Ah, well, back to Sixfields and gates of 2000.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #5
SISU will probably only need that time now to conclude court action, after that I'm guessing they don't give a shiny shite about CCFC's future anyway. They are still fobbing the FL off with tales of stadium la la land, which is Fishers sole job now it seems. It's drop the court action and pay the damages or no deal. I do feel that those sneaky cretins at Wasps and the council want to keep up the stand off though as it suits their own devious ambitions.
It's appalling all round for the football club and getting worse by the week.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #6
Didn't we know it ended then months ago?
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #7
I have a suggestion for FL , talk to the other parties involved and you ll find the one bleating to you is the cause of the problem , and yet again sisu play the victim card .
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #8
Nick said:
Didn't we know it ended then months ago?
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Yes nothing New.
And nothing we fans can do about it ether.
Leave it to the powers that be an hope for the best.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #9
Bruce the Boot said:
I have a suggestion for FL , talk to the other parties involved and you ll find the one bleating to you is the cause of the problem , and yet again sisu play the victim card .
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Or how about the FL go to Wasps and say are you prepared to extend the clubs agreement on the current terms. And then they could go to the council and request they asset the club with any plans they may have now or in the immediate future.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
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chiefdave said:
Or how about the FL go to Wasps and say are you prepared to extend the clubs agreement on the current terms. And then they could go to the council and request they asset the club with any plans they may have now or in the immediate future.
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And if they both say no?
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #11
Nick said:
And if they both say no?
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If they both say no then they couldn't make their stance much clearer could they. You would then be able to say without a doubt that the club are being forced out of the city.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #12
Maybe the Trust or the Telegraph could ask the same questions. See if they get a response.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #13
chiefdave said:
If they both say no then they couldn't make their stance much clearer could they. You would then be able to say without a doubt that the club are being forced out of the city.
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Exactly, the fact the FL will have had the emails and stuff sent first class in a shiny envelope the moment the council tried to block the Higgs. (Hadn't the FL been involved in that too?)

Thing is, even if the FL came out and said "the council wont help". They would just be called spineless and listening to SISU's lies.

Can see on the other thread that Dongo is failing to acknowledge what is there in black and white.
 
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oucho

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #14
No doubt that after a lot of speculation and brinkmanship, CCFC and Wasps will simply sign a new deal on similar terms as the current one for another 3 years or something. Refer back to this in a couple of years when it happens, until now you can close the thread Nick.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #15
What if both sides dig their heels in, what happens then ?
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #16
rupert_bear said:
What if both sides dig their heels in, what happens then ?
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Agree - the breakdown in relationships between the parties is very worrying. Its in none of their interests for CCFC to leave the city, it's a guaranteed revenue stream. However, if litigation costs keep rising then some of the parties might take the short term view of being prepared to lose CCFC from being based in Coventry. Lets hope that a pragmatic solution is forthcoming ....and soon. The ongoing uncertainty damages the prospects for recruitment & building the club back up again.
 

oucho

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  • Aug 23, 2016
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Colin Steins Smile said:
Agree - the breakdown in relationships between the parties is very worrying. Its in none of their interests for CCFC to leave the city, it's a guaranteed revenue stream. However, if litigation costs keep rising then some of the parties might take the short term view of being prepared to lose CCFC from being based in Coventry. Lets hope that a pragmatic solution is forthcoming ....and soon. The ongoing uncertainty damages the prospects for recruitment & building the club back up again.
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Money talks. Wsaps need every penny they can get in order to turn a profit and repay their bond holders. It's for this reason that I'm confident a solution will be hammered out, even if it's an interim 3-year one. After all, Wasps are not affected by the legal wrangling (CCC will have indemnified them against any claim by CCFC as to the deal, so the ownership is unquestionably theirs and CCC's only liability is financial compensation = not Wasps problem). I was surprised Wasps used the pretext of "the ongoing legal action" to suspend their talks with CCFC, as it doesn't affect them at all.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
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oucho said:
Money talks. Wsaps need every penny they can get in order to turn a profit and repay their bond holders. It's for this reason that I'm confident a solution will be hammered out, even if it's an interim 3-year one. After all, Wasps are not affected by the legal wrangling (CCC will have indemnified them against any claim by CCFC as to the deal, so the ownership is unquestionably theirs and CCC's only liability is financial compensation = not Wasps problem). I was surprised Wasps used the pretext of "the ongoing legal action" to suspend their talks with CCFC, as it doesn't affect them at all.
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Exactly, they could maybe be called out and asked how it affects them.... If it doesn't, ask what it has to do with them then?
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #19
It's okay saying "leave the city "
but to where ? doubt it will be Northampton again there's a different regime there now and I think there are rules in place for teams in the same division. Within the 30 odd mile rule I can't think of any suitable alternative
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #20
At the moment Wasps get 100k rent not a lot really, so not sure how desperate they are for a tenant.
 

Gazolba

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #21
We can always go to Northampton again.
 

oucho

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #22
Gazolba said:
We can always go to Northampton again.
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I think that's the point of this thread i.e. why we're all getting worried.....
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #23
Isn't there a rule saying we couldn't be in the same league?
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #24
Nick said:
Isn't there a rule saying we couldn't be in the same league?
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We might be in League 2 by then.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #25
rupert_bear said:
but to where ?
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Birmingham - 19 miles
Leicester - 24 miles
Leicester Tigers - 24 miles
Villa - 25 miles
Alexander Stadium - 27 miles
Walsall - 32 miles
West Brom - 32 miles
Northampton - 32 miles
Northampton Saints - 32 miles
Wolves - 42 miles
Burton - 45 miles
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #26
Nick said:
Isn't there a rule saying we couldn't be in the same league?
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there's the old discretion though so that could be ignored.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #27
Gazolba said:
We can always go to Northampton again.
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Can we?
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #28
I think after last time Tim Fisher will have job convincing the FL he has plans for a new stadium unless he produces concrete evidence as to where, proper plans and possible planning permission, perhaps our local rag should doorstep him or that Sandra Garlick woman for answers.
 

oucho

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #29
Nick said:
Isn't there a rule saying we couldn't be in the same league?
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Never heard of such a rule. Plenty of teams in the same division have ground-shared before now.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #30
oucho said:
Never heard of such a rule. Plenty of teams in the same division have ground-shared before now.
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There is a rule, brought in when the MK Dons owner nicked Wimbledon out of London to stop it happening again. When we moved to Northampton I remember Fisher had to give certain assurances to our future ground situation and submit a financial bond, a million quid if my memory is correct. Have there been that many clubs share the same ground while in the same division ? Wimbledon certainly shared with Charlton and Palace but where they in the same division at the time, Wimbledon were in the Premiership.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
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rupert_bear said:
There is a rule, brought in when the MK Dons owner nicked Wimbledon out of London to stop it happening again. When we moved to Northampton moved to Northampton Fisher had to give certain assurances to our future ground situation and submit a financial bond, a million quid if my memory is correct.
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I think he means about teams sharing in the same league, I might be wrong but I am sure it has been mentioned!
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #32
That's a point what happens to that 1 million quid bond we paid the FL? Can that be given back into the team?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #33
chiefdave said:
Or how about the FL go to Wasps and say are you prepared to extend the clubs agreement on the current terms. And then they could go to the council and request they asset the club with any plans they may have now or in the immediate future.
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We could go to Wasps ourselves (it is our problem) crazy as that sounds. We could also ask for the FL to be included in the talks and come up with a solution that the FL Wasos and is find acceptable.

"It's good to talk"
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #34
dongonzalos said:
We could go to Wasps ourselves (it is our problem) crazy as that sounds. We could also ask for the FL to be included in the talks and come up with a solution that the FL Wasos and is find acceptable.

"It's good to talk"
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You do realise Wasps have stopped talks?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #35
Nick said:
You do realise Wasps have stopped talks?
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Sorry I am getting frazzled, I am still going on about the academy. The whole thing is vexing me.
 
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