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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #176
oldfiver said:
I think the words from the WASPs leader is sufficient proof

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/20/sports/rugby/wasps-move-to-new-home-in-coventry.html?_r=0
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Sorry mate I fail to see what you're getting at? unless you mean the bit about "Thinking for the last two years" which to me means just that Thinking.
Richardson spoke to Rossborough about joining forces with CRFC but was before he bought into Wasps. I also fail to see where this proves Wasps were in talks with CCC as some are insinuating in 2012.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #177
Sky Blue Kid said:
When Coventry RFC president Peter Rossborough admitted to the Coventry Telegraph that Richardson had approached him in 2012 – prior to Richardson acquiring Wasps - See more at: http://www.talkingrugbyunion.co.uk/wasps-historic-2014-15-season/12971.htm#sthash.9cU7xGfB.dpuf


Richardson approached Rossborough before he bought Wasps.. He didn't approach CCC or ACL or any Ricoh partners.
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Oh yes he did - as did Martin Reeves!
 
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Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #178
chiefdave said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/news-opinion/red-button-wasps-been-buzzing-7892050
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Where's it say in that report that Richardson had approached CCC or visa versa? He spoke to Rossborough "Informally" No mention of approaching the Ricoh owners! Scaremongering Dave, thought you were better than that
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #179
Sky Blue Kid said:
Sorry mate I fail to see what you're getting at? unless you mean the bit about "Thinking for the last two years" which to me means just that Thinking.
Richardson spoke to Rossborough about joining forces with CRFC but was before he bought into Wasps. I also fail to see where this proves Wasps were in talks with CCC as some are insinuating in 2012.
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Richardson and Martin Reeves were in discussions about the Ricoh in 2012.
Believe that or not
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #180
Sky Blue Kid said:
Where's it say in that report that Richardson had approached CCC or visa versa? He spoke to Rossborough "Informally" No mention of approaching the Ricoh owners! Scaremongering Dave, thought you were better than that
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Who is Dave?
Not scaremongering - fact
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #181
oldfiver said:
Who is Dave?
Not scaremongering - fact
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Show me the facts and I'll believe you.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #182
oldfiver said:
Who is Dave?
Not scaremongering - fact
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my reply was to chiefdave
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 25, 2016
  • #183
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Ok ta

To me it just doesn't matter if we owe them 80 or 90 million they are never ever going to get it back. Investments like shares can go down as well as up the investors need to suck it up the money has gone.
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Yep, unfortunately, sisu have now decided they do care whether we owe them 80 or 90 million, and know they won't get it back so are now trying to limit any more need for them to put in cash. That means we have to live within our means, that means we need a manager who can get the right players in for the right money and get them to puch above their weight.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #184
Sky Blue Kid said:
my reply was to chiefdave
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OK
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #185
Well day 2.......... I've been told that Wasps were in talks with CCC in 2012. The two posters have done a Grenduffy saying it's fact Yet no proof from either of them. Nick and oldfiver, Show me "Cast Iron Proof" and I'll believe you. Yes, Richardson was talking to Rossborough(Informally) before he bought Wasps about joining up with CRFC in 2012. Nobody is denying that, but Rossborough and CRFC are not CCC. People will do anything to put SISU in a good light, but the one true fact is, Fisher and Sepalla categorically stated on 17th May 2013. CCFC were never going back to the Ricoh FACT!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #186
It was in one of the court cases as well....

You are the one trying to put the council and Wasps in a good light here aren't you?
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #187
SBK, do you really believe that someone who didn't even yet own Wasps was talking to CRFC about Wasps moving here and a merger of the two clubs but didn't at any point speak to the owners of the stadium they would be looking to use, or do you think he was planning to move Wasps to the Butts?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #188
Sky Blue Kid said:
Show me the facts and I'll believe you.
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I do not care if you do not believe me !
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #189
chiefdave said:
SBK, do you really believe that someone who didn't even yet own Wasps was talking to CRFC about Wasps moving here and a merger of the two clubs but didn't at any point speak to the owners of the stadium they would be looking to use, or do you think he was planning to move Wasps to the Butts?
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I am not sure what or who he believes - except the person who keeps passing him things to say by way of a fishing line
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #190
chiefdave said:
SBK, do you really believe that someone who didn't even yet own Wasps was talking to CRFC about Wasps moving here and a merger of the two clubs but didn't at any point speak to the owners of the stadium they would be looking to use, or do you think he was planning to move Wasps to the Butts?
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I suggest both you and Nick re-read terms of lease for BPA..... "Only
oldfiver said:
I do not care if you do not believe me !
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Instead of spouting show me proof... I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong are you? I'll be the first to apologise.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #191
oldfiver said:
I am not sure what or who he believes - except the person who keeps passing him things to say by way of a fishing line
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Believe this pal. Nobody is "Passing me anything"... Unless it's you or Nick with bullshit!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #192
Sky Blue Kid said:
I suggest both you and Nick re-read terms of lease for BPA..... "Only
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Can you post a copy up? I think you have misread what was said.

Didn't a council lawyer confirm it had been mentioned also? RE: The Wasps talks.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #193
Sky Blue Kid said:
I suggest both you and Nick re-read terms of lease for BPA..... "Only

What?

Instead of spouting show me proof... I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong are you?
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When I am then I do and why should I pander to what you say?

Take it or leave it - I am not bothered!
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #194
Sky Blue Kid said:
Believe this pal. Nobody is "Passing me anything"... Unless it's you or Nick with bullshit!
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You don't know its bullshit

On that I will leave it !
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #195
Nick said:
Can you post a copy up? I think you have misread what was said.

Didn't a council lawyer confirm it had been mentioned also? RE: The Wasps talks.
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I don't think so Nick. It's you that doesn't read fuck all mate... Try READING my post #131
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #196
Sky Blue Kid said:
I don't think so Nick. It's you that doesn't read fuck all mate... Try READING my post #131
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So a council lawyer didn't say it had been mentioned in 2012, around March Time?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #197
oldfiver said:
You don't know its bullshit

On that I will leave it !
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Like I said, prove it and I'm man enough to apologise. simple as that really
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #198
Nick said:
So a council lawyer didn't say it had been mentioned in 2012, around March Time?
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If you're so sure PROVE IT! It states only Rugby to be played at BPA. That is why there was a conversation with Rossborough to amalgamate. The only thing I can see where CCC would be involved is for their permission to play there(BPA) I've not seen anywhere, any affermation about being in talks with CCC about the Ricoh apart from the usual reporting starting approx aug 2014. So once again, if you've got proof otherwise, then please post it on here to receive unreserved apologies from me
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #199
Sky Blue Kid said:
If you're so sure PROVE IT! It states only Rugby to be played at BPA. That is why there was a conversation with Rossborough to amalgamate. The only thing I can see where CCC would be involved is for their permission to play there(BPA) I've not seen anywhere, any affermation about being in talks with CCC about the Ricoh apart from the usual reporting starting approx aug 2014. So once again, if you've got proof otherwise, then please post it on here to receive unreserved apologies from me
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You show me where "It states only Rugby to be played at BPA."
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #200
Sky Blue Kid said:
If you're so sure PROVE IT! It states only Rugby to be played at BPA. That is why there was a conversation with Rossborough to amalgamate. The only thing I can see where CCC would be involved is for their permission to play there(BPA) I've not seen anywhere, any affermation about being in talks with CCC about the Ricoh apart from the usual reporting starting approx aug 2014. So once again, if you've got proof otherwise, then please post it on here to receive unreserved apologies from me
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I am talking about Wasps talking to CCC in 2012. Where the council lawyers words were that it had been mentioned at that point.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #201
oldfiver said:
You show me where "It states only Rugby to be played at BPA."
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Another one that doesn't read posts properly... Re-read my post #131
PS. thought you'd gone off in a flounce?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #202
Nick said:
I am talking about Wasps talking to CCC in 2012. Where the council lawyers words were that it had been mentioned at that point.
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It was in the last JR
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #203
oldfiver said:
You show me where "It states only Rugby to be played at BPA."
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You show me proof of Wasps(Richardson) and CCC in talks about buying the Ricoh in 2012..... Remembering that Wasps were on the verge of bankruptcy/liquidation at that time
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #204
Sky Blue Kid said:
Another one that doesn't read posts properly... Re-read my post #131
PS. thought you'd gone off in a flounce?
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I do not flounce - far too big!

I read your post 198 to mean the BPA lease says "It states only Rugby to be played at BPA"
I simply asked you to prove it and show me where is says that
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #205
oldfiver said:
I do not flounce - far too big!

I read your post 198 to mean the BPA lease says "It states only Rugby to be played at BPA"
I simply asked you to prove it and show me where is says that
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It is a quote from the Telegraph and I would say that they had researched enough to avoid being charged with Libel/slander from CCC. BTW it looked very much like a "Flounce" to me.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #206
Sky Blue Kid said:
You show me proof of Wasps(Richardson) and CCC in talks about buying the Ricoh in 2012..... Remembering that Wasps were on the verge of bankruptcy/liquidation at that time
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A council lawyer says it at a court case, then add that up that it makes it around the same time as the other people who have said about it.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #207
Sky Blue Kid said:
It is a quote from the Telegraph and I would say that they had researched enough to avoid being charged with Libel/slander from CCC. BTW it looked very much like a "Flounce" to me.
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Factual evidence required with a a true extract from the lease!
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #208
Nick said:
A council lawyer says it at a court case, then add that up that it makes it around the same time as the other people who have said about it.
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Says what? that Richardson spoke to Rossborough? or Richardson spoke to CCC about buying the Ricoh? If the latter Prove it. simple as that. Or are you struggling to find it? if it ever existed.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #209
oldfiver said:
Factual evidence required with a a true extract from the lease!
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Factual evidence required with a true extract from the meeting of Richardson and CCC about buying the Ricoh!...... Impasse I believe!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 26, 2016
  • #210
Sky Blue Kid said:
Says what? that Richardson spoke to Rossborough? or Richardson spoke to CCC about buying the Ricoh? If the latter Prove it. simple as that. Or are you struggling to find it? if it ever existed.
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That it was discussed with CCC. There was a document dated March 2012 that referenced it.

The council QC tries to play it down, but confirms it had been mentioned.
 
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