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Moscowskyblue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Are we approaching a split scenario like Everton moving from Anfield and forming their own club in the 1880's?
Many posters are discussing a new form of a Coventry club and if the sixfields situation continues that will only grow louder. There will be a gap in the market for a new club if this carries on much longer to staisfy the desire to watch their City's representatives in action and not having to travel to a town that wears another clubs name.
I had a season ticket for many years despite living overseas and not using it often and have supported the club since the 60's but honestly I dont give a toss how they do at present whilst these shysters are in place and rip the soul out of what I have always considered my club.
If the Brandon or a new stadium is built within the Coventry area I will support which ever form takes over the Ricoh and here is why. This crisis is self induced and could have been avoided by paying the rightful amount to the landlord as contracted and negotiating a better deal which was a necessity given their league status. They chose to renege on a deal which they agreed on upon ownership and bitched only upon poor results yet when they were anticipating premiership football it was not an issue, they hid and piled debt upon debt until the club is stricken to its current extent and is unsellable in reality unless the owners are prepared to take a real hit and the evidence suggests that is not their modus operandi. They saw the Ricoh as this holy grail to yet failed to pay the very people who saved the project from its own folly and all I hear is ACL and CCC have played their own part in the demise of CCFC.
Actually they have alienated so many supporters that there is a real danger of anger being directed towards those that choose to travel to sixfields to follow the club.
I thought I was Coventry City til I die but I am Coventry til I die and I will choose whether it is City or some other form if and when the time comes but it will never be with SISU as custodians.
 
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Gary.j

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Great post! (Hope you don't mind if i copy it onto the coventry 1883 page).
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #3
If we have a proper split we'll be left with 2 averagedly/poorly supported teams where league two is their glass ceiling.
 
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Mick Scoop

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #4
Moscowskyblue said:
Are we approaching a split scenario like Everton moving from Anfield and forming their own club in the 1880's?
Many posters are discussing a new form of a Coventry club and if the sixfields situation continues that will only grow louder. There will be a gap in the market for a new club if this carries on much longer to staisfy the desire to watch their City's representatives in action and not having to travel to a town that wears another clubs name.
I had a season ticket for many years despite living overseas and not using it often and have supported the club since the 60's but honestly I dont give a toss how they do at present whilst these shysters are in place and rip the soul out of what I have always considered my club.
If the Brandon or a new stadium is built within the Coventry area I will support which ever form takes over the Ricoh and here is why. This crisis is self induced and could have been avoided by paying the rightful amount to the landlord as contracted and negotiating a better deal which was a necessity given their league status. They chose to renege on a deal which they agreed on upon ownership and bitched only upon poor results yet when they were anticipating premiership football it was not an issue, they hid and piled debt upon debt until the club is stricken to its current extent and is unsellable in reality unless the owners are prepared to take a real hit and the evidence suggests that is not their modus operandi. They saw the Ricoh as this holy grail to yet failed to pay the very people who saved the project from its own folly and all I hear is ACL and CCC have played their own part in the demise of CCFC.
Actually they have alienated so many supporters that there is a real danger of anger being directed towards those that choose to travel to sixfields to follow the club.
I thought I was Coventry City til I die but I am Coventry til I die and I will choose whether it is City or some other form if and when the time comes but it will never be with SISU as custodians.
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Couldn't of put it better myself :claping hands::claping hands:
 
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Snozz_is_god

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #5
Moscow, I agree with everything you said...
 
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SonOfSnoz

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #6
Northampton could have two clubs, Coventry zero
 

SkyBlueUkeman

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #7
It would be less of a split, more of a extraction of a cancerous tumor in the form of Sisu, which, may or may not involve the complete irradication of the club.

I think the vast majority would support a club that plays in the city, whether this be Coventry Phoenix, Coventry Sphinx or another Phoenix club where the fans actually have a say and a stake.

This coventry city now is not the coventry city we once loved, and never will be again. It's just far too damaged.
 
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dadgad

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Moscowskyblue said:
This crisis is self induced and could have been avoided by paying the rightful amount to the landlord as contracted and negotiating a better deal which was a necessity given their league status. s.
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This is a given.
But doesn't recognition of the fact permit some room for negotiation......even now?

The Council will also be forced to draw their horns in.

Coventry should play in Coventry - all parties should make that happen and THEN strike up a deal with complete transparency.

If they (Sisu) take the club out of Coventry because they want to make a point then sorry, they are beyond the pale.

There are better ways to communicate ffs, why don't they start by telling the truth?
 
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SonOfSnoz

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #9
Coventry Council have a lot to answer for!
Sisu are not from Cov!
 

SkyBlueUkeman

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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And also, if english football continues down this hedonistic, moneycrazy track, we'd be much better off on a clean slate, starting all over again. We might be the first "big" club to fold, but just you wait and see over the next few years when the money finally dries up.
To risk looking like that mental wearing the sandwich board saying "the end is nigh", in terms of megabucks english football, it really, really is.
 
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Vedere

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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SkyBlueUkeman said:
This coventry city now is not the coventry city we once loved, and never will be again. It's just far too damaged.
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This!

Exactly!

CCFC as it is, no longer feels like my club! The club I grew up supporting. We all know there are other groups responsible for this, the alienation of the fans, however, SISU have amplified all of the negativity!

As many others have said, if there was a fan led football team in Coventry then in my mind (rightly or wrongly) they would be the true Sky Blues!
 
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SonOfSnoz

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #12
Just few years ago, we were in the prem, with Keane/Macca & Hadji. Ricoh being built. Times have changed!
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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SonOfSnoz said:
Just few years ago, we were in the prem, with Keane/Macca & Hadji. Ricoh being built. Times have changed!
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dont we know it !
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #14
Moscowskyblue said:
...and all I hear is ACL and CCC have played their own part in the demise of CCFC.
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If that is all you're hearing...you are a poor listener or have very selective hearing (although you will be in the majority of posters on that issue)
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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SonOfSnoz said:
Just few years ago, we were in the prem, with Keane/Macca & Hadji. Ricoh being built. Times have changed!
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And Keane, Macca and Hadji are as much why we are where we are now as anything else.
 

magic82ball

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #16
What's being done about it? I hear virtually everyone say they would support a phoenix at the ricoh but what exactly is being done? Need some action people... not from me of course, I'm far too busy.
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #17
magic82ball said:
What's being done about it? I hear virtually everyone say they would support a phoenix at the ricoh but what exactly is being done? Need some action people... not from me of course, I'm far too busy.
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Do you? .
 

magic82ball

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #18
stupot07 said:
Do you? .
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Most the rational, normal ones. yep.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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If you want a rival to CCFC Sphinx would love your support, and you could help cheer them on to further success.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Deleted member 5849 said:
And Keane, Macca and Hadji are as much why we are where we are now as anything else.
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Yes of coursee Keane bought for six million pounds sold for thirteen the loss on him was incredible:thinking about:
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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It was that simple, was it?
 

SkyBlueUkeman

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Yes of coursee Keane bought for six million pounds sold for thirteen the loss on him was incredible:thinking about:
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Richardson & the board owned Keane. He pocketed the profit.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Deleted member 5849 said:
It was that simple, was it?
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Whats so difficult to understand about a seven million pounds profit?
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Whats so difficult to understand about a seven million pounds profit?
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That will be sisu's fault....
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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SkyBlueUkeman said:
Richardson & the board owned Keane. He pocketed the profit.
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So this is different to any club is it? I dont think so
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Whats so difficult to understand about a seven million pounds profit?
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You clearly don't!
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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stupot07 said:
That will be sisu's fault....
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Of course
 

SkyBlueUkeman

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
So this is different to any club is it? I dont think so
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Yes, in that the money wasn't put into the club, it was siphoned out for personal gain.

We made NO money off it.
 

Paxman II

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #29
Christ I'll get the violins out! Never heard such stupid one sided sentiment. Some on here have very short memories or simply join the sheep and never let up. I want SISU gone as much as the next person but some of you are getting ridiculously extreme.
The fat lady has not been seen singing yet and there's plenty more moves to make.

And the one that says never unless we are in our home at the Ricoh...has it ever felt like home? Only Highfield Road felt like home.
And regardless of strong opinion to the contrary it is not ALL Sisu's fault.

My club is and will always be the Sky Blues. No other formation will ever replace it. The club is far from dead. The season kicks off in a week and I'm looking forward to see how we do as always. I'd bet my house on it every one of you will be doing the same, you bunch of hypocrites.

There are only two ways to look at it:
1. We play away temporarily and return to the Ricoh after 1, 2 or 3 seasons or build this stadium they claim.
2. We return to the Ricoh soon and eventually crack a deal that suits the club and stay and build on a future.

I'll stay with them and support them to achieve either of those. Anything else is pure folly.
 
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true sky blue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
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ypur right abour Highfield Road, the football died in Coventry the day we left. remember that last home game?? that tells you all you need to know. yes we saw some shite there but overall the passion and the goals were always there. If Sisu build Highfield Road 2 and structure it the same way = lets say at courtaulds - they would be our heroes wouldnt they??
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #31
Paxman II said:
Christ I'll get the violins out! Never heard such stupid one sided sentiment. Some on here have very short memories or simply join the sheep and never let up. I want SISU gone as much as the next person but some of you are getting ridiculously extreme.
The fat lady has not been seen singing yet and there's plenty more moves to make.

And the one that says never unless we are in our home at the Ricoh...has it ever felt like home? Only Highfield Road felt like home.
And regardless of strong opinion to the contrary it is not ALL Sisu's fault.

My club is and will always be the Sky Blues. No other formation will ever replace it. The club is far from dead. The season kicks off in a week and I'm looking forward to see how we do as always. I'd bet my house on it every one of you will be doing the same, you bunch of hypocrites.

There are only two ways to look at it:
1. We play away temporarily and return to the Ricoh after 1, 2 or 3 seasons or build this stadium they claim.
2. We return to the Ricoh soon and eventually crack a deal that suits the club and stay and build on a future.

I'll stay with them and support them to achieve either of those. Anything else is pure folly.
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er, SISU have an "option" of 5 years and that will be the very quickest they can build a stadium...Even if they got all the planning etc, they cant file basic accounst ffs, what chance of building a stadium

If they go to Northampton, they will stay in Northampton
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #32
true sky blue said:
ypur right abour Highfield Road, the football died in Coventry the day we left. remember that last home game?? that tells you all you need to know. yes we saw some shite there but overall the passion and the goals were always there. If Sisu build Highfield Road 2 and structure it the same way = lets say at courtaulds - they would be our heroes wouldnt they??
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If we had one "final game" at Ricoh, the atmosphere would be the same...Look at the protest last week.

The Ricoh is home, its where we belong !
 

Paxman II

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #33
ccfcway said:
er, SISU have an "option" of 5 years and that will be the very quickest they can build a stadium...Even if they got all the planning etc, they cant file basic accounst ffs, what chance of building a stadium

If they go to Northampton, they will stay in Northampton
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This is what happens on a forum. You answer with pure opinion and absolutely no fact.
Just to be clear: They could build a small stadium inside a year. Planning could be granted very quickly.
An option is just that an option (if it's required...like insurance) it does not mean we stay there 5 years.
If they were building a stadium and the roof collapsed they might need another year away under such exceptional circumstances. That's why you negotiate options.
FFS grow up all of you!
If you keep looking for the worst scenario then that's all you deserve. Start supporting your football club through thick and thin. You sound like whinging poms.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #34
ccfcway said:
er, SISU have an "option" of 5 years and that will be the very quickest they can build a stadium...Even if they got all the planning etc, they cant file basic accounst ffs, what chance of building a stadium

If they go to Northampton, they will stay in Northampton
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Why on earth would they stay in Northampton?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #35
Deleted member 5849 said:
You clearly don't!
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