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  • Thread starter Sky Blue Pete
  • Start date Mar 27, 2019
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #1
excellent news

UK set to adopt vehicle speed limiters
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #2
"Driver can override the system by pressing on the accelerator"
So the system will be fatally flawed from the outset ...
Good try, but must do better!
There were 1.3 MILLION road deaths worldwide last year. They reckon more people will die on the roads than from heart disease by 2030, so where the EU gets its idea of zero road deaths by 2050 is beyond me!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #3
My car has a speed limiter function but have never ever used it. It doesn't take into account roadworks, temporary speed limits or anything like that.

Can't see it making much difference.
 

bezzer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #4
Mine has a speed limiter too. My wife in the passenger seat.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #5
I’d rather they legislated on banning internal combustion engines. It’s far more pressing and will kill far more people.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #6
shmmeee said:
I’d rather they legislated on banning internal combustion engines. It’s far more pressing and will kill far more people.
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Make everything electric?

It's going to need the cost and infrastructure on electric cars sorting first.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #7
shmmeee said:
I’d rather they legislated on banning internal combustion engines. It’s far more pressing and will kill far more people.
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It’s a good point
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #8
I'm all in favour of reducing speed, but there are occasions when you might need to accelerate over the limit slightly when overtaking. I think the RAC or AA have picked up on this.
 
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CovInEssex

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  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #9
No one will be doing the driving in 20 years. The cars will.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #10
No doubt the idea has come from non drivers, they should make it eighty on the motorway if it comes in
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #11
Sky Blue Pete said:
excellent news

UK set to adopt vehicle speed limiters
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Ridiculous
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #12
Bloody stupid idea. I have a speed limiter that I can adjust so I can't go above the limit. But the flaw with this is, that going down a hill or gradient, the car will just go faster due to weight and gradient so I have to hover my foot over the brake pedal anyway. Can't use gears to slow down - it's an automatic.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #13
If it is speed that kills why is it that our fastest roads are the safest?

It is those driving like idiots and those who don't concentrate that are the biggest danger. What would make the biggest difference would be more police on the road.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 27, 2019
  • #14
Astute said:
If it is speed that kills why is it that our fastest roads are the safest?

It is those driving like idiots and those who don't concentrate that are the biggest danger. What would make the biggest difference would be more police on the road.
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It’s one of the variables and speed kills it’s a fact.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #15
Grendel said:
Ridiculous
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Agreed
 

Astute

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #16
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s one of the variables and speed kills it’s a fact.
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Speed kills yes. Because if they were not moving there wouldn't be accidents.

It is more to do with not driving to the conditions. This includes the weather or the surroundings. It isn't just pure speed. If it was just pure speed motorways would be the most dangerous roads and not the safest.

I am a high mileage driver. I don't always keep to the speed limit. I have been legally on the road since my 16th birthday. So I have nearly been on the road for 35 years. I have never had an accident. But I don't have a clue how many I have seen. And not 1 was speed related. Normally lack of concentration.
 
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Marty

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #17
Astute said:
Speed kills yes. Because if they were not moving there wouldn't be accidents.

It is more to do with not driving to the conditions. This includes the weather or the surroundings. It isn't just pure speed. If it was just pure speed motorways would be the most dangerous roads and not the safest.

I am a high mileage driver. I don't always keep to the speed limit. I have been legally on the road since my 16th birthday. So I have nearly been on the road for 35 years. I have never had an accident. But I don't have a clue how many I have seen. And not 1 was speed related. Normally lack of concentration.
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This man knows his stuff... The standard of driving in this country is horrendous.
 

skybluejelly

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #18
i read one of the articles that we are all going to have to have telematics boxes fitted as well so big brother will be watching us well and truley,i dont mind the speed limiter just dont like the fact i will be tracked everytime i am in the car
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #19
skybluejelly said:
i read one of the articles that we are all going to have to have telematics boxes fitted as well so big brother will be watching us well and truley,i dont mind the speed limiter just dont like the fact i will be tracked everytime i am in the car
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Wonder how supercars will fare.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #20
Astute said:
If it is speed that kills why is it that our fastest roads are the safest?

It is t:drowning:hose driving like idiots and those who don't concentrate that are the biggest danger. What would make the biggest difference would be more police on the road.
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Probably be more effective to ban males under 21 from driving. :happy:
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #21
Captain Dart said:
Probably be more effective to ban males under 21 from driving. :happy:
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And doddery old buggers over 65!
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'ang on.………. that includes me!
 
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Gazolba

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #22
Don't take these things so personally.
These laws are not to prevent you from causing an accident.
They are to stop other people causing accidents.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #23
Gazolba said:
Don't take these things so personally.
These laws are not to prevent you from causing an accident.
They are to stop other people causing accidents.
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Nothing personal. But over the years how many times have I seen women using their mirror to put makeup on? Eating breakfast? Reading the paper doesn't happen these days because people have phones. Looking anywhere but at the road. Middle lane hogs driving slower than the traffic. I could go on. Yet some people love to make out that it is all about speed. Maybe speed mixed together with one or more of the above.
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #24
Astute said:
Nothing personal. But over the years how many times have I seen women using their mirror to put makeup on? Eating breakfast? Reading the paper doesn't happen these days because people have phones. Looking anywhere but at the road. Middle lane hogs driving slower than the traffic. I could go on. Yet some people love to make out that it is all about speed. Maybe speed mixed together with one or more of the above.
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Totally agree Astute. I drove professionally for some 30 years or so. Lorries, double-deck buses, coaches, limousines etc. I drove all over the country from Coventry, such as London, Manchester, Birmingham, north-east (Sunderland Toyota), regular drops down to Portsmouth, deliveries up to Glasgow, Ayr and Kilmarnock. Delivered Harley Davidson motor-cycles all over the country as well (crated up 7 at a time on the back of a wagon). In all those years I never once had an accident or got a speeding ticket. But some of the driving I saw from other motorists was absolutely horrendous. My pet hate is using a phone whilst driving. That deserves a massive fine and instant ban in my eyes! They're as bad as drink drivers! Wankers!
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #25
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm all in favour of reducing speed, but there are occasions when you might need to accelerate over the limit slightly when overtaking. I think the RAC or AA have picked up on this.
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I think it is actually overridable in such circumastance - heaven forbin that one should patiently wait for the most appropriate moment to overtake or brake to cut back in behind instead. An affront to one's masculinity innit?

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #26
CovInEssex said:
No one will be doing the driving in 20 years. The cars will.
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That's what it is all about...thpugh where Billy-big-bollocks & Ms. Power will vent their aggression or power instead remains to be seen

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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 28, 2019
  • #27
Houchens Head said:
Bloody stupid idea. I have a speed limiter that I can adjust so I can't go above the limit. But the flaw with this is, that going down a hill or gradient, the car will just go faster due to weight and gradient so I have to hover my foot over the brake pedal anyway. Can't use gears to slow down - it's an automatic.
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Mine actually brakes in those circumstances. Initially using cruise control (at the actual limit) can frustrate as so many whizz past but invariably I catch the traffic up in roadworks or near junctions.
Makes me wonder if a 30mph limit on every road (except 20mph ones - that would stand) might actually work bettwr by keeping traffic flowing more smoothly...but enforcing non-middle lane driving/hogging might be an effoective deterrent first off, bit then one has to address the tsilgating issue. Usually people drive too close to deliberately foil anyone cutting in to leave major roads

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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 29, 2019
  • #28
SkyblueBazza said:
Mine actually brakes in those circumstances. Initially using cruise control (at the actual limit) can frustrate as so many whizz past but invariably I catch the traffic up in roadworks or near junctions.
Makes me wonder if a 30mph limit on every road (except 20mph ones - that would stand) might actually work bettwr by keeping traffic flowing more smoothly...but enforcing non-middle lane driving/hogging might be an effoective deterrent first off, bit then one has to address the tsilgating issue. Usually people drive too close to deliberately foil anyone cutting in to leave major roads

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I meant to say "cruise control" Bazza. My mistake. It's not exactly a speed limiter. (Used to have speed limiters on the lorries I drove.)
 

dancers lance

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  • Mar 29, 2019
  • #29
8000 people died by way of alcohol specific - causes in the UK last year, if this was just a genuine effort by the EU to save lives, as they say, then surely banning alcohol should have come before? Anyone would think that alcohol sales make up a significant part of GDP for many EU countries?
 
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