stupot07
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Of course they do, but part of the contract is they take the financial risks, but we get % commission on what is sold. Well that's whats been posted on here. Or do you think we get 0%?
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Of course they do, but part of the contract is they take the financial risks, but we get % commission on what is sold. Well that's whats been posted on here. Or do you think we get 0%?So how do they get any commission then do the operators not have any of those costs?
or is it run by a charity?
I thimk we get less then if we ran it ourselves.Of course they do, but part of the contract is they take the financial risks, but we get % commission on what is sold. Well that's whats been posted on here. Or do you think we get 0%?
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There must have been a couple then, the one I heard he didn't really have a question and they had to sort of ask him to get to the point.No he wasn't please Concentrate rate Nick.
Pete asked abut the club's business plan, about how they were going to make it work.
Venus had the same answer as you.
It has to, but like you not sure how to do it.
Really filled us all with confidence.
I'm not so sure. If you do some back of a fag packet mathsI thimk we get less then if we ran it ourselves.
We need the money but pawn out one of the few ways of making any.
Sorry but seems very strange to me.
Well please keep on track if you are going to make comments on people why do you think we started debating about how the club would become self sufficient?There must have been a couple then, the one I heard he didn't really have a question and they had to sort of ask him to get to the point.
So we get a 20% cut of something we should be getting 100% of.I'm not so sure. If you do some back of a fag packet maths
Rental £70k
Staffing £70k (probably more than that)
Initial stock £20k
Utilities £2k
= £162k
£40 adult shirt less vat £32.*
£162k ÷ £32 = 5062 adult shirts to break even, that before you've probably paid more than the £20k stock to purchase them, plus you have to replace stock too.
I doubt we are losing significant revenue by franchising it, not with current crowd levels anyway.
Anyone any idea how many items of merchandise are purchased per annum?
*yes I know there is a wider range of merchandise than adults shirts
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TBF haven't bothered going up there this season has been poor for a couple of seasons now.The stock in there quite full no shortage well staffed perhaps they know how to run a shop shame we could not and can only take a % wonder if they can run a football club?
So just put up or fuck off.
Well please keep on track if you are going to make comments on people why do you think we started debating about how the club would become self sufficient?
Because that was the question Pete from Radford asked.
Yes there was one on who couldn't get his words out but fair play to him for trying.
I had a question I wanted answering but like the majority on here couldn't be arsed to phone up.
They shall stay unanswered.
So we get a 20% cut of something we should be getting 100% of.
Work that out on your fag packet how much are we losing?
We could only take a % and not 100% of it anyway as it has significanf running costs that need to be paid for before you have usable profit that can be diverted into supporting the team.The stock in there quite full no shortage well staffed perhaps they know how to run a shop shame we could not and can only take a % wonder if they can run a football club?
Why do you think Wasps would want to take us to the cleaners they are in business to make money to progress they would in my opinion want to keep us going paying into the pot .We could not be worse tenant to deal with than SUSI .
I really like the idea of fan ownership.
In all likelihood it will never happen, and I can see the many potential problems and pitfalls, but I think the fans having some sort of say in the future of the club would be a great thing after everything we've been through.
Yes, we would still have to be self sufficient, we would have to still sell our best players, but we've always done that, long before sisu came, including my first Sky Blue hero Ian Wallace, but for me it would be acceptable if it meant having people who care about the club and who had a vision at the helm.
However, I don't buy this theory that wasps and CCC are suddenly going to bend over backwards to form partnerships with the club after sisu have gone.
wasps have their own interests to look after, and as much as I don't like them and wish they weren't here I can understand that.
CCC only look out for the interests of CCC, they don't care about the people they were elected to serve or the Citys institutions.
So IMHO, the day sisu go won't be a bright new dawn, it will just mean we have cleared the first and biggest hurdle to a bright new dawn but there will still be many left ahead of us.
So what you are saying is we can't even run a fuckin shop.We could only take a % and not 100% of it anyway as it has significanf running costs that need to be paid for before you have usable profit that can be diverted into supporting the team.
I'd say the current set up controls stock far better and although the shop looks pretty well stocked they seem to rub out quicker and as they don't over order stock you dont see massively discounted items in the summer like we did when ccfc did it.
I'm not even saying I think its a good thing, just that I can understand why, if the shop had high costs and low profits, the club would do this.
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So what you are saying is we can't even run a fuckin shop.
Say no more.........
Ah see you got it now.
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The thing is, you would be getting phone calls if we got Man City at home asking for tickets
248 to be fair....The fan ownership will be that desperate to stay at the Ricoh no matter what, that wasps will have a field day. Before you know it we'll be back on the old £1.2m pa rent deal with no access to revenues for 249 years.
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LOL , I have fookled off , its muppets like you that keep fuelling the situation , by paying them .
When Presley's team was flying we had record low attendances as Sisu had moved us to Northampton. That decision alone is a reason why many have left and not come back.But that isn't true. When we were doing well last year we had bigger attendances, when we were doing well first half of the good Presley year we had bigger attendances. When we aren't doing well we have less... if we start flying now more will come that is the way. Not saying people aren't mad at sisu and want to protest, I do too, but football is the main reason.
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I can see your point but I don't really know what else he could say. He's employed to manage the football team, not dictate where they play.I haven't read through all of this thread yet so apologies if someone else has mentioned these points. I was pleased Venus came on and was prepared to take a bit of flak. It does make me wonder however why they are talking now after months of silence. Is it because they are trying to counteract the growing movement against them? Without on field success this season, I think season ticket sales will collapse next year. How will the model of sustainability cope? You can't blame the fans because everyone has the choice to buy into something or not. If they do not buy into the Sisu vision for the club and also what they have seen on the field, they have a right to walk away, many already have.
I was really disappointed that Venus didn't take the opportunity when asked to say that the club would do all in it's power to never move from Coventry again. I realise he can't say it will never be moved. His readiness to answer that, yes, he would move with the club was I thought disturbing. From the quickness of his reply it seems that discussions with Fisher and friends have probably taken place about another move. He didn't seem to realise that if such a thing happened it would surely be the end for CCFC. Can he not see, or perhaps he doesn't want to, that the biggest stumbling block to City staying in Coventry are Sisu and their legal actions?
I can see your point but I don't really know what else he could say. He's employed to manage the football team, not dictate where they play.
You're right to say the fact that he didn't deny it sounds like it's still on the agenda which is worrying.
I can see your point but I don't really know what else he could say. He's employed to manage the football team, not dictate where they play.
You're right to say the fact that he didn't deny it sounds like it's still on the agenda which is worrying.
So it isn't going into the club now then?
I'd be absolutely amazed if he had any say in that decision, I doubt fisher has any either.He's on the board isn't he? Therefore he get's a vote wether to move or stay at Coventry. Or perhaps there's no democracy at SISU/CCFC!
When has it ever then?In terms of ownership, no it isn't going into our club.
Could he do the honourable thing and resign on a point of principle? After a life time in football I would doubt he is badly off. I'm 59 by the way but happy to be classed as one of the youngsters of today!Let me see now! My main income comes from my job with CCFC I have a wife and family a mortgage to pay and bills and I am being told that I have to move with my job or leave? What would I do? I would move with the job and look for another job in the mean time. It's called responsibility a lot of what I don't see with the youngsters of today
Let me see now! My main income comes from my job with CCFC I have a wife and family a mortgage to pay and bills and I am being told that I have to move with my job or leave? What would I do? I would move with the job and look for another job in the mean time. It's called responsibility a lot of what I don't see with the youngsters of today
I'd be absolutely amazed if he had any say in that decision, I doubt fisher has any either.
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