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Speak to Venus tonight - CWR Phone In (2 Viewers)

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tskezz

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  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #71
skybluebeduff said:
No it's declined since SISU arrived, and will continue to do so whilst they remain.

City fans last year had hope, something a whole generation hasn't had. Can you blame 'fans' for having optimism for the first time in decades?? I don't..

And since our November of being top of the league in the first time in decades, kindly remind everyone what SISU have done since then...

Yeah fickle bunch we are...
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Im not at one point at saying sisu are good. And yes they have declined. But if he's asked a question like that how else can he answer? And the fact is with league positions going up and down so will attendances.


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skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #72
Nick said:
He did.

It is just that people ignore it then bang on about chucking loads of money in, then they will expect them to forget the money and walk away.
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So the business model that Fisher has stated in his recent Q&A is sustainable? To sell a player every season to ensure the club stays alive, is by all means, a good model?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #73
skybluebeduff said:
No it's declined since SISU arrived, and will continue to do so whilst they remain.

City fans last year had hope, something a whole generation hasn't had. Can you blame 'fans' for having optimism for the first time in decades?? I don't..

And since our November of being top of the league in the first time in decades, kindly remind everyone what SISU have done since then...

Yeah fickle bunch we are...
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I think the fact if we got Chelsea or Man City at home in the cup it would be a sell out and NOPM would disappear for a lot of people for that game. (Notice I said a lot of people, not all).
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #74
skybluebeduff said:
So the business model that Fisher has stated in his recent Q&A is sustainable? To sell a player every season to ensure the club stays alive, is by all means, a good model?
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Unless we make it up in other ways.

Meanwhile people sit at home shouting NOPM and moan about business models and no investment. You couldn't really make it up.
 
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #75
Nick said:
I think the fact if we got Chelsea or Man City at home in the cup it would be a sell out and NOPM would disappear for a lot of people for that game. (Notice I said a lot of people, not all).
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not quite sure why people keep saying this. Every club in the land has an increase when the big boys come to town in the cup.

For every NOPM, there are many that have simply walked away due to falling out of love with ccfc. Attendances are declining and many aren't down to NOPM.
 
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the rumpo kid

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  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #76
tskezz said:
' every penny goes back into club.


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if that's true and we're still not breaking even , then why are sisu still here . they must be taking money out somewhere or they would just sell.
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #77
Nick said:
I think the fact if we got Chelsea or Man City at home in the cup it would be a sell out and NOPM would disappear for a lot of people for that game. (Notice I said a lot of people, not all).
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Still clinging onto 2009?, when reality is it's 2016 and 19,000 fans signing a petition would argue your case otherwise? It's not about football anymore, it's about the future of the club. You honestly believe the Ricoh would fill if drawn such teams? I don't, not even half full. People have stopped going for a reason and it's nothing to do with football.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #78
skybluebeduff said:
Still clinging onto 2009?, when reality is it's 2016 and 19,000 fans signing a petition would argue your case otherwise? It's not about football anymore, it's about the future of the club. You honestly believe the Ricoh would fill if drawn such teams? I don't, not even half full. People have stopped going for a reason and it's nothing to do with football.
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It isn't clinging on to anything, if we got an FA cup draw there would still be a clamour for tickets.

19,000 signing an online petition doesn't say anything apart from we got about 10,000 more than that against Gillingham. Online petitions don't say anything.

If we go top of the league, loads will be back. If we got a cup run, loads would we back.
 
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tskezz

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #79
skybluebeduff said:
Still clinging onto 2009?, when reality is it's 2016 and 19,000 fans signing a petition would argue your case otherwise? It's not about football anymore, it's about the future of the club. You honestly believe the Ricoh would fill if drawn such teams? I don't, not even half full. People have stopped going for a reason and it's nothing to do with football.
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But that isn't true. When we were doing well last year we had bigger attendances, when we were doing well first half of the good Presley year we had bigger attendances. When we aren't doing well we have less... if we start flying now more will come that is the way. Not saying people aren't mad at sisu and want to protest, I do too, but football is the main reason.


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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #80
Nick said:
Unless we make it up in other ways.

Meanwhile people sit at home shouting NOPM and moan about business models and no investment. You couldn't really make it up.
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Not doing NOPM myself but I think there is a logic to it.

It depends if you believe the owners are going to

Build a new stadium
Build a new training/academy facility
Sign long term rent deals

Or

Try to get the club to fund itself by cutting as many costs as possible. Try to keep renewing temporary rental deals on training academy and stadium.
Whilst awaiting either Wasps to struggle financially or all legal options to be exhausted. Then put the club into admin. If neither come to fruition or the club can't pay for itself.

I assume the NOMP people believe the later and are speeding up getting to admin. In belief better owners will take over.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #81
tskezz said:
But that isn't true. When we were doing well last year we had bigger attendances, when we were doing well first half of the good Presley year we had bigger attendances. When we aren't doing well we have less... if we start flying now more will come that is the way. Not saying people aren't mad at sisu and want to protest, I do too, but football is the main reason.


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Exactly!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #82
dongonzalos said:
Not doing NOPM myself but I think there is a logic to it.

It depends if you believe the owners are going to

Build a new stadium
Build a new training/academy facility
Sign long term rent deals

Or

Try to get the club to fund itself by cutting as many costs as possible. Try to keep renewing temporary rental deals on training academy and stadium.
Whilst awaiting either Wasps to struggle financially or all legal options to be exhausted. Then put the club into admin. If neither come to fruition or the club can't pay for itself.

I assume the NOMP believe the later and are speeding up getting to admin. In belief better owners will take over.
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why would the club be put into admin?

I have yet to see an actual thought out plan that would give good reasons why it would be helping our football club.
 
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SkyblueBri

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #83
People have found other things to do on a Sat since the Northamprton move, I,m a season ticket holder and if I can't make the game, now no one is interested in going. SISU have killed my club and no manager can rectify that.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #84
SkyblueBri said:
People have found other things to do on a Sat since the Northamprton move, I,m a season ticket holder and if I can't make the game, now no one is interested in going. SISU have killed my club and no manager can rectify that.
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The thing is, you would be getting phone calls if we got Man City at home asking for tickets
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #85
I would say court cases, moving us to Northampton and back, not agreeing a long term rent deal so we're effectively homeless in 2018, selling our only asset for housing, and the academy situation has played no part in the dwindling attendances...

Yeah you couldn't make it up... it's all because of the football right?

 
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #86
Nick said:
The thing is, you would be getting phone calls if we got Man City at home asking for tickets
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anyone ring when we played West Ham kids a few weeks ago ?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #87
Nick said:
why would the club be put into admin?

I have yet to see an actual thought out plan that would give good reasons why it would be helping our football club.
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If you were to decide to leave the club because you decide you can't get it to break even point. If you can't find a buyer you would place it into admin.
 

Bruce the Boot

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #88
Nick said:
Meanwhile people sit at home shouting NOPM and moan about business models and no investment. You couldn't really make it up.
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And other people still believe Sisu will deliver and have a realistic plan for taking us forward , .....as you said You couldn't really make it up .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #89
skybluebeduff said:
I would say court cases, moving us to Northampton and back, not agreeing a long term rent deal so we're effectively homeless in 2018, selling our only asset for housing, and the academy situation has played no part in the dwindling attendances...

Yeah you couldn't make it up... it's all because of the football right?

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And if we were top of the league now how many people would be shouting? Yes, some would of course.
 

tskezz

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #90
skybluebeduff said:
I would say court cases, moving us to Northampton and back, not agreeing a long term rent deal so we're effectively homeless in 2018, selling our only asset for housing, and the academy situation has played no part in the dwindling attendances...

Yeah you couldn't make it up... it's all because of the football right?
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Nope its not all about football and weve said that but the fact is even with all of the things you have just said and sisu still in charge if we are top of the league towards the end of the season we will have 10k more. thats simple
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #91
Bruce the Boot said:
And other people still believe Sisu will deliver and have a realistic plan for taking us forward , .....as you said You couldn't really make it up .
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Who has said that and where?
 

Bruce the Boot

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #92
The question still has nt been answered , Why are Sisu here , Their not fans , they have no ambition , SO WHY ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #93
dongonzalos said:
If you were to decide to leave the club because you decide you can't get it to break even point. If you can't find a buyer you would place it into admin.
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Does that still happen if all of the debt is to them?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #94
Nick said:
The thing is, you would be getting phone calls if we got Man City at home asking for tickets
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And Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea quite amazing really.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #95
Bruce the Boot said:
And other people still believe Sisu will deliver and have a realistic plan for taking us forward , .....as you said You couldn't really make it up .
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Who? I haven't come across anyone who thinks they'll deliver or who believes they'll build a stadium.
 
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tskezz

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #96
Bruce the Boot said:
The question still has nt been answered , Why are Sisu here , Their not fans , they have no ambition , SO WHY ?
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agreed
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #97
Nick said:
Does that still happen if all of the debt is to them?
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I am no financial whiz but OSB looked at it and said admin is the most likely route if there is no buyer as oppose to liquidation.
So I go by that.
 

SkyblueBri

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #98
There used to be 9 of us go to games now were are down to 3, nothing to do with playing bigger clubs, just SISU killing our club. My friends now think of us as a joke and even if we played Man U would not go.
Yet under Dowie we thought we had some thing, 11.000 of us went to Old Trafford to see our cup run, so now it is just sad my friends have deserted us, but next season will I get a season ticket, I don't know and I never thought I would say that.
 
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #99
Nick said:
And if we were top of the league now how many people would be shouting? Yes, some would of course.
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15k when we beat Gillingham 4-1 and were top, its hardly a full house
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #100
ccfcway said:
15k when we beat Gillingham 4-1 and were top, its hardly a full house
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I meant top properly..Not for a game or two.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #101
fernandopartridge said:
Brilliant model of everybody else is using it? Is this bloke for real? Self sufficiency is what all of football should aim for.
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No no one else uses it because it doesn't work that is the issue.
He said it had to work because his employers said so.
Twist it how you want if we are not self sufficient now with 8000 crowds then it can only get worse.
So what is there to grasp Nick.
Like he said players are getting more expensive so you would have to increase your crowds every year to keep the club going.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #102
Nick said:
I meant top properly..Not for a game or two.
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we may never know. Not experienced it in my lifetime
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #103
letsallsingtogether said:
No no one else uses it because it doesn't work that is the issue.
He said it had to work because his employers said so.
Twist it how you want if we are not self sufficient now with 8000 crowds then it can only get worse.
So what is there to grasp Nick.
Like he said players are getting more expensive so you would have to increase your crowds every year to keep the club going.
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How are the trust planning on chucking shit loads of money in?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #104
Bruce the Boot said:
The question still has nt been answered , Why are Sisu here , Their not fans , they have no ambition , SO WHY ?
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The truth is the likes of Jimmy Hill would definitely say the owners are beyond contempt but still go and support the team.

So just put up or fuck off.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2016
  • #105
It's all the fans fault - fucking dickhead
 
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