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Grendel

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #246
torchomatic said:
FFS. Just when I think you can't get any worse you come out with even more shit. This cannot be laid at Labour's door.
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no it can’t - but it has been said on here that 14 years of neglect of mental health services may be a factor - it isn’t
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #247
if Labour had any back bone they would stop all boats immediately as risk to our security

but with her as our Home Secretary nothing will be challenged
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #248
stay_up_skyblues said:
I was the same with the Ariana Grande bombing. But for the tickets selling out there was a very real chance my two then very young daughters would’ve been there. I had been looking at resale a couple of weeks before. The thought of those innocent kids watching their favourite artist at a once in a lifetime gig and that happening. Took me out for the bulk of the day after.

I really don’t know what the answer is here. Was worried sick a couple of weeks ago when my daughter was on a school trip to France as feared the election could spurn some nutcases to rampage. Florida in a few weeks and worry some mass shooting at Disney could happen. It’s extreme situations but really, is it THAT rare these days? Worlds fucked.
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Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #249
GIMOC said:
how? again all true. more hasn’t happened in 3 weeks than the last 3 months.

Labour will not crack down on any of this.

only time Labour mp have gone public on something was the Muslim kicked in the head

didn’t hear or any labour visiting the family or the soldier. Doubt a Labour mp will visit the families of the kids but a person breaking a policewoman nose and the labour Mp goes to their fuckin house to support them

it’s laughable
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You really need to lay off the Internet for a bit.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #250
Macca said:
Atherton is a c**t. Right or wrong
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I think 'c**t' is a bit strong. Always thought he was the weaker of the two being on the right ...




















.... but formed a great partnernership with Babb.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #251
PVA said:
You really need to lay off the Internet for a bit.
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Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #252
GIMOC said:
Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it
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You've been far more outraged at people not being angry enough and now bizarrely the party that's been in government for 5 mins than you are about some innocent children being killed.

It's fucking weird and you've been utterly brainwashed by Twitter freaks.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #253
GIMOC said:
if Labour had any back bone they would stop all boats immediately as risk to our security

but with her as our Home Secretary nothing will be challenged
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Like the Tories stopped the boats you mean?
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #254
GIMOC said:
Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it
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You're showing yourself up unfortunately.

Most are being very rational and reasoned.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #255
Bugsy said:
Don't know how credible they are, again I have just come across it

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David Atherton is a bullshitting shit stirrer, and that's been kind, so I'd wait for a more reliable source ifI was you.
 
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nicksar

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #256
Saddlebrains said:
Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating
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Horrendous doesn't even cover it,I was at my youngest Granddaughter's 5th birthday party on Friday her sister and five other little girls from her infant school were there, picturing their happy faces on Friday and imagining what the parents of the Southport children are feeling.....welling up tbh.
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #257
GIMOC said:
if Labour had any back bone they would stop all boats immediately as risk to our security

but with her as our Home Secretary nothing will be challenged
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Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #258
GIMOC said:
Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it
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You really are thick. Your post about Labour came after you claim you aren't point scoring

14 years of running every service into the ground had nothing to do with it then

Chemtrail loser
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #259
nicksar said:
Horrendous doesn't even cover it,I was at my youngest Granddaughter's 5th birthday party on Friday her sister and five other little girls from her infant school were there, picturing their happy faces on Friday and imagining what the parents of the Southport children are feeling.....welling up tbh.
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Something needs to be done for sure, but I don't know what exactly and it will take time and great effort.

People carrying knives is a huge problem.

Nonsensical stuff like immediately close all the borders, is both ridiculous and really unhelpful.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #260
Saddlebrains said:
Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating
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When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.
 
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Como

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #261
Anyone else loving the Diversity?
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #262
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I've noticed a shift in the last year or so. More people are speaking out on this subject .
When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.
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That's my worry. I can see vigilantism being a real thing on the streets, very soon if this carries on.
 
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Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #263
Saddlebrains said:
Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating
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There were race riots back in the late 90s at my secondary school. It felt back then like the lid was ready to come off at any time.

I have no idea how we are a 1/4 century on and the pot hasn't boiled over yet.

I'm glad it hasn't - but it will come. And it will be a huge shock to a lot of people.

I wish it weren't so, but things just seem inevitable.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #264
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I've noticed a shift in the last year or so. More people are speaking out on this subject .
When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.
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This is it

I think its becoming clear that even those who may have been quite liberal in the past, normal folk like most of us, cannot deny there are issues now

It's undeniable that unchecked immigration is leading to heinous crimes like today. It's undeniable that the amount of immigration, legal and non legal is one of the forces on the housing system, the judicial system, the health service, civil service.

And it's undeniable that as I say a certain number of people are coming into this country and doing what the fuck they like, how they like, when they like, have no intention of integrating and I think the common working person of this country is about done with being told its all ok
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #265
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
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When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.
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Thats what I mean about not having anybody really listen or politically it's Farage. Nothing in the middle where you can have an issue with some bits of immigration without being called a right wing racist.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #266
Otis said:
Something needs to be done for sure, but I don't know what exactly and it will take time and great effort.

People carrying knives is a huge problem.

Nonsensical stuff like immediately close all the borders, is both ridiculous and really unhelpful.
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I think we need to have a conversation on what offences do we actually want to lock people up for and what can be fixed in the community or even legalised.

I personally don’t think anybody should be in prison for possession of small amounts of drugs. Send them to an addiction prevention course and get on with things.

We need to focus on people carrying out or being prepared to carry out (by possessing weapons for example) violent crime.

We definitely need to clamp down on illegal immigration but the way to do that is by properly processing legal asylum claims and that isn’t popular with a lot of people.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #267
Nick said:
Thats what I mean about not having anybody really listen or politically it's Farage. Nothing in the middle where you can have an issue with some bits of immigration without being called a right wing racist.
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Farage is a clown and doesn't help the situation at all. All he does is stir the pot

Needs someone much more reasoned than Robinson or Farage.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #268
Diogenes said:
There were race riots back in the late 90s at my secondary school. It felt back then like the lid was ready to come off at any time.

I have no idea how we are a 1/4 century on and the pot hasn't boiled over yet.

I'm glad it hasn't - but it will come. And it will be a huge shock to a lot of people.

I wish it weren't so, but things just seem inevitable.
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Thing is I really don't think it's going to be race riots in the basic sense of the word of it being due to someone's colour

I touched on this the other day but members of the Sikh + Hindu community whom I have many friends are also sick to the back teeth of the goings on at the moment, and are 100% on the same page that it needs stopping. If there are to be riots I'd be pretty confident that it won't be down to race and there will be many black and white people on the same side against what is, no denying the last few years, an invasion of scum
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #269
GIMOC said:
you will all be happy to know. I am going for a pint

I will leave this with you glorious people. if this doesn’t hit home, nothing will

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Knife crime is horrendous.

How many people have been stabbed to death by non-Muslims/migrants?

People are being stabbed to death every day.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #270
Saddlebrains said:
This is it

I think its becoming clear that even those who may have been quite liberal in the past, normal folk like most of us, cannot deny there are issues now

It's undeniable that unchecked immigration is leading to heinous crimes like today. It's undeniable that the amount of immigration, legal and non legal is one of the forces on the housing system, the judicial system, the health service, civil service.

And it's undeniable that as I say a certain number of people are coming into this country and doing what the fuck they like, how they like, when they like, have no intention of integrating and I think the common working person of this country is about done with being told its all ok
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I can remember 2 other attacks like this, both in the 90s and both carried out by British citizens, (Dunblane was absolutely horrendous).

That doesn't detract from the horror of today but as always with these events there's tendency to whitewash the past as some of utopia where bad things never happened and thats not the case.

Again, to reiterate, not trying to water down what happened today but its not the first time, be good if it was the last but I doubt it will be.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #271
Saddlebrains said:
Thing is I really don't think it's going to be race riots in the basic sense of the word of it being due to someone's colour

I touched on this the other day but members of the Sikh + Hindu community whom I have many friends are also sick to the back teeth of the goings on at the moment, and are 100% on the same page that it needs stopping. If there are to be riots I'd be pretty confident that it won't be down to race and there will be many black and white people on the same side against what is, no denying the last few years, an invasion of scum
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Agreed - I'm using the term race riots more broadly. But in truth I don't think it will be rioting that we will need to worry about.

I fear more something along the lines of what we saw in the troubles, but on steroids.

If that happens- don't forget the UK has plenty of enemies overseas who would only be too delighted to start supplying and funding dissident, violent groups.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #272
GIMOC said:
you will all be happy to know. I am going for a pint

I will leave this with you glorious people. if this doesn’t hit home, nothing will

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You don't know what defines terror, fine.

We'll just add it to the list of stuff you've made yourself look a tit over in this thread.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #273
Some people really are dim:
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #274
How do we fix the problem when the systems needed to do so are so broken? The prisons are full and underfunded & mental health services have been mercilessly cut. Brexit has made cooperation with neighbouring countries harder than ever.

The previous government spent it's last years whipping up people into a froth over the bizarre PR stunt that was the Rwanda scheme.

The new government are screwed, they have to untangle years of neglect. People will moan if taxes go up. Idiots will parrot stop the boats without any meaningful contribution as to how.

I do feel the least optimistic about my kids futures than I ever have before. I honestly haven't got a clue how this will all end
 
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Como

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #275
Merseyside police chief constable Serena Kennedy said a 17-year-old boy from Banks, Lancashire, had been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder over the “ferocious attack”.

She added that he was originally from Cardiff, south Wales.
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Seems he is Welsh according to the Guardian
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #276
Why is there an argument on this thread? What's to disagree about?

It's shit and the perpetrator is a bastard, and we all agree!

Hmm 5999 posts since the chemtrail brother stirred.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #277
clint van damme said:
I can remember 2 other attacks like this, both in the 90s and both carried out by British citizens, (Dunblane was absolutely horrendous).

That doesn't detract from the horror of today but as always with these events there's tendency to whitewash the past as some of utopia where bad things never happened and thats not the case.

Again, to reiterate, not trying to water down what happened today but it’s not the first time, be good if it was the last but I doubt it will be.
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sorry but had to comment on this walking to the pub

how many terrorist attacks have we had on British soil since dunblane?

90% of them committed by muslims

high profile ones such as London bombings, Manchester arena, Lee rugby, London Bridge, Westminster bridge, Reading park, Streatham and not to mention others

if you can’t see what’s in front of you god help you
 
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Como

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #278
Stop the Boats?

That is what you have a Navy for.
 

GIMOC

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #279
Como said:
Seems he is Welsh according to the Guardian
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lol he was welsh. I really do give up
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #280
Saddlebrains said:
This is it

I think its becoming clear that even those who may have been quite liberal in the past, normal folk like most of us, cannot deny there are issues now

It's undeniable that unchecked immigration is leading to heinous crimes like today. It's undeniable that the amount of immigration, legal and non legal is one of the forces on the housing system, the judicial system, the health service, civil service.

And it's undeniable that as I say a certain number of people are coming into this country and doing what the fuck they like, how they like, when they like, have no intention of integrating and I think the common working person of this country is about done with being told its all ok
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It's out of control. Sooner or later a western European country will elect an extreme far right leader if this continues and it won't be like a Trump or Farage. We're no different despite all the arguments that we're a tolerant multi cultural nation.
If that's what people decide then they'll have been driven to it by a set of circumstances that threatens their sense of identity and democratic principles
 
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