Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
What’s the point
What’s the pointDon't need the state to murder him, just spend zero protecting him. Same with nonces really, just put them on the main wings among other prisoners and let nature take its course.
Why are you making stuff up again? It's constant.
What “image pushed” what are you on about? You see conspiracy around every corner. Who do you think was doing the pushing? The government? How? Why?
Wasn’t that just the information that was knownWell if he was on their radar and had been properly investigated, I'm not sure the Welsh choirboy image was the right one to share. In fact it's that kind of nonsense where they try to portray something everyone knows is wrong, that adds fuel to the hatred. Hopefully lessons will be learned there too and misinformation that sparked the riots, should also be aligned with purposeful misinformation from authorities.
What conspiracy and what facts have I got wrong?What have I made up? You’ve spent the whole thread trying to launder weird online conspiracies and getting basic facts wrong.
You can't see what image was pushed about him?
Do you really see the irony in going on about conspiracies?Fucking hell.
What conspiracy and what facts have I got wrong?
It's every fucking thread, you constantly make things up that haven't been said and then say others are following conspiracies but write paragraphs about made up scenarios. It's so weird.
Were people who went to school saying that? Hadn’t seen that other than he was a bit of a wrongunEspecially when people who went to school with him were saying he was completely different to the image pushed... Turns out that was correct too.
Think the whole thing (riots) could have been completely different if it was handled differently from the start.
Have you got any thoughts in that head of yours? This is why I try not to engage with you and your crew. It’s just accusations and laughing emojis whenever you’re asked what you’re on about or challenged on it.
More irony.What the fuck are you on about? I think you need a lie down. You’ve lost your head.
Ok so you think the papers who are actively campaigning against the current government were complicit in pushing a choir boy narrative?You can't see what image was pushed about him?
Do you really see the irony in going on about conspiracies?Fucking hell.
Yeah there were posts around the time of him bringing knives into school, being excluded and going on about genocide etc.Were people who went to school saying that? Hadn’t seen that other than he was a bit of a wrongun
Ok so you think the papers who are actively campaigning against the current government were complicit in pushing a choir boy narrative?
as shmmeee says why?
Ok so you think the papers who are actively campaigning against the current government were complicit in pushing a choir boy narrative?
as shmmeee says why?
what's the point in him living? No quality of life, will cost a fortune to protect him and a prison space that could carry another wrong un. Let the other inmates resolve it and you can have a clear conscience that the state wasnt involved. It's win win.What’s the point
Because he believes every post that comes across his Twitter feed. And sticks his fingers in his ears whenever someone points out he’s wrong. Man’s a walking study in maintaining self delusion.
You honestly believe the authorities (*based on what has since come out) had no idea who he was or what level of risk was posed? I know from your posts you're not that naïve so let's not pretend otherwise.Wasn’t that just the information that was known
Then everyone got two and added two and came out with 7 which if you add three is absolutely correct
Misinformation is when you say something as fact when you don’t know it is
Where were these?Yeah there were posts around the time of him bringing knives into school, being excluded and going on about genocide etc.
Where were these?
and what benefit is there for the government of the day to do anything other than say leave the police and other authorities
I recognise the media and social media will look to present a story and gone are the days when this requires any accuracy
The stories I read were of reporters going to where he was raised or currently living and asking about him
Who released the picture
I don’t get the silver bullet and this will bring starmer down I never have
You think the government released the picture used by the press? You think it’s wrong to allow an individual to be blamed charged convicted and sentenced and everyone who looks like hun or believes what he does needs to be arrested?So they didn't push that narrative and it's completely wrong?
You honestly believe the authorities (*based on what has since come out) had no idea who he was or what level of risk was posed? I know from your posts you're not that naïve so let's not pretend otherwise.
Seems pretty clear they had no idea of the risk he posedYou honestly believe the authorities (*based on what has since come out) had no idea who he was or what level of risk was posed? I know from your posts you're not that naïve so let's not pretend otherwise.
You think the government released the picture used by the press? You think it’s wrong to allow an individual to be blamed charged convicted and sentenced and everyone who looks like hun or believes what he does needs to be arrested?
I don’t understand
Sorry what’s the point in discussing with someone in a so called civilised society why we don’t allow criminals to murder other criminals in an enclosed environmentwhat's the point in him living? No quality of life, will cost a fortune to protect him and a prison space that could carry another wrong un. Let the other inmates resolve it and you can have a clear conscience that the state wasnt involved. It's win win.
You think if they did they’d have allowed him to do it???!!!
Sorry what’s the point in discussing with someone in a so called civilised society why we don’t allow criminals to murder other criminals in an enclosed environment
You are entitled to your opinion but if there’s no common reference on humanity then it’s tricky
What’s the point then?What? Where have I said anything about anybody who looks like him needs to be arrested?
He didn’t kind of. He did!Well he kind of did do it.
What’s the point then?
The government was looking to portray him as an innocent 13 year old choir boy so that we’d feel sympathy for him?
And no you didn’t but that’s what the riots were about
This isn’t an innocent black kid this is someone who you need to hate and those like him because he and they will rape your children and murder your parents
He didn’t kind of. He did!
So if they knew his risk then they would have stopped him as it was they didn’t know his risk or they didn’t measure it correctly and were looking the other way when it happened
No. I'm responding to Pete about the misinformation spread. They were quick enough to say everything he wasnt despite supposedly having been on their radar. They assumed wrongly that it would quell the fires, it had the opposite effect as it was clearly fabricated. I'm referring to the aftermath, rather than the crime itself.So you think the security services let this happen for some reason? What’s your angle here?
Ok simple thenAgain, what are you going on about?
You and shmmeee are banging on about conspiracies but are just going on about things that haven't been said in the posts you are replying to.
It’s probably a good thing that most are known to the authoritiesHow many attacks like this turn out that they weren't stopped and were known about? It seems rare that something like this happens and it is by a completely random bloke.
It makes you wonder how much his parents knew about him as well.
No. I'm responding to Pete about the misinformation spread. They were quick enough to say everything he wasnt despite supposedly having been on their radar. They assumed wrongly that it would quell the fires, it had the opposite effect as it was clearly fabricated. I'm referring to the aftermath, rather than the crime itself.
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