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wingy

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,626
Nick said:
There's too much money to be made from it though.
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Industry ain't it?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,627
Sky Blue Pete said:
Easier to blame foreigners
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I don't think that's really helpful.

Immigration to the UK is absolutely out of control and has been for some time. I agree with the idea or a proper processing system to help tackle it, but it needs to be taken seriously. It doesn't seem to me that Labour or Tories are doing so.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,628
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I don't think that's really helpful.

Immigration to the UK is absolutely out of control and has been for some time. I agree with the idea or a proper processing system to help tackle it, but it needs to be taken seriously. It doesn't seem to me that Labour or Tories are doing so.
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It’s not going to get easier
Of course it’s out of control the world is going to hell in a handcart with so many millions displaced through war and conflict: The wave coming with eclipse them as people lose land and food and water. We need to be more understanding and generous and recognise we are a human race
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,629
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not going to get easier
Of course it’s out of control the world is going to hell in a handcart with so many millions displaced through war and conflict: The wave coming with eclipse them as people lose land and food and water. We need to be more understanding and generous and recognise we are a human race
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The harsh reality is it will be a survival of the fittest and those with better resources
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,630
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not going to get easier
Of course it’s out of control the world is going to hell in a handcart with so many millions displaced through war and conflict: The wave coming with eclipse them as people lose land and food and water. We need to be more understanding and generous and recognise we are a human race
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I've always maintained that every country needs to do their bit for genuine refugees. I agree with the sentiment.

The problem is Pete, there are a lot of people coming from places that aren't warzones. I understand why someone would want to better their life, I don't blame them in that regard, but let's not confuse those with people who are genuinely in need, and that we should be helping.

I strongly believe you would see more compassion towards those that need the help if we didn't have so many chancers.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,631
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I've always maintained that every country needs to do their bit for genuine refugees. I agree with the sentiment.

The problem is Pete, there are a lot of people coming from places that aren't warzones. I understand why someone would want to better their life, I don't blame them in that regard, but let's not confuse those with people who are genuinely in need, and that we should be helping.

I strongly believe you would see more compassion towards those that need the help if we didn't have so many chancers.
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I completely agree
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,632
Grendel said:
The harsh reality is it will be a survival of the fittest and those with better resources
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Of course
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,633
Just found out family at church from Pakistan found out they have to go back been here about a year and a half
Daughter yr 11 twin boys yr 8 he’s a professor and she’s a gp
Bless them kids are gutted. To be fair I am too
 
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nicksar

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,634
Sky Blue Pete said:
Just found out family at church from Pakistan found out they have to go back been here about a year and a half
Daughter yr 11 twin boys yr 8 he’s a professor and she’s a gp
Bless them kids are gutted. To be fair I am too
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Why do they have to leave Pete.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,635
nicksar said:
Why do they have to leave Pete.
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Presume parents had a work visa and it’s run out
So sad for the kids
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,636
Sky Blue Pete said:
Presume parents had a work visa and it’s run out
So sad for the kids
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So nothing to do with the migration debate?
 
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nicksar

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,637
Sky Blue Pete said:
Presume parents had a work visa and it’s run out
So sad for the kids
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That's a shame (if it is the reason) they are making a positive contribution,can they not get a new work visa?.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 14, 2024
  • #2,638
Grendel said:
So nothing to do with the migration debate?
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Compassionate man that you are
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #2,639
wingy said:
If only we had some facilities for this!
Maybe all the barracks that got sold off?
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Home Office 'cut corners' buying asbestos-contaminated £15m migrant camp

The government watchdog finds the Home Office made "a series of poor decisions" buying the site in East Sussex.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #2,640
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not going to get easier
Of course it’s out of control the world is going to hell in a handcart with so many millions displaced through war and conflict: The wave coming with eclipse them as people lose land and food and water. We need to be more understanding and generous and recognise we are a human race
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Yes, all those fit young men leaving the women and children behind.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #2,641
They want a better life for themselves and vast majority want to find work. Multi national tax dodging big business and crime gangs exploit these people in so many ways yet politically we do relatively little to tackle the main perpetrators. Then we interfere in Israel and their government make us more vulnerable to radicalism. We know the problem lies with politicians and a few crazy radicals of Islam or UKIP/REFORM/Conservative & Unionist Party and far left ...... ALL need rooting out.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #2,642
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
They want a better life for themselves and vast majority want to find work. Multi national tax dodging big business and crime gangs exploit these people in so many ways yet politically we do relatively little to tackle the main perpetrators. Then we interfere in Israel and their government make us more vulnerable to radicalism. We know the problem lies with politicians and a few crazy radicals of Islam or UKIP/REFORM/Conservative & Unionist Party and far left ...... ALL need rooting out.
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A Turk with some dinghies has been arrested. Not a silver bullet according to Sir Keir. How many are waiting in line to take up the market opportunity created?

It is demand that needs addressing, not supply.
 

Como

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #2,643
Asylum has been corrupted into a method of migrating, at some point the nonsense has to stop.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,644
Be interesting to see how true all the stuff about his old man in Rwanda is.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,645
There are a lot of rumours floating around about Starmer as well...
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,646
Nick said:
Be interesting to see how true all the stuff about his old man in Rwanda is.
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Former Warlord
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,647
I see Farage is launching a private prosecution against the Manchester Airport pair as taking forever to charge them
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,648
Gynnsthetonic said:
Former Warlord
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That stuff was said at the same time that he was an Islamist too. I'm sure it's all been deleted since.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,649
Nick said:
That stuff was said at the same time that he was an Islamist too. I'm sure it's all been deleted since.
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The cute looking choir boy looking by the pictures of him
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,650
MalcSB said:
Yes, all those fit young men leaving the women and children behind.
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If you were going to make an incredibly perilous journey to start a new life for your family do you:

A) do it alone, and bring them over once you have settled
B) chuck your wife and young kids on a crowded dinghy in the middle of the Channel


 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,651
PVA said:
If you were going to make an incredibly perilous journey to start a new life for your family do you:

A) do it alone, and bring them over once you have settled
B) chuck your wife and young kids on a crowded dinghy in the middle of the Channel


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How long before they are settled? And why have some of them I pretended to be 13? Can hardly ask to bring your 10 year old over later.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,652
PVA said:
If you were going to make an incredibly perilous journey to start a new life for your family do you:

A) do it alone, and bring them over once you have settled
B) chuck your wife and young kids on a crowded dinghy in the middle of the Channel


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I mean if you're fleeing a warzone....
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,653
Nick said:
Be interesting to see how true all the stuff about his old man in Rwanda is.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
There are a lot of rumours floating around about Starmer as well...
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People really need to start putting links to what they're referring to in this thread
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,654
Apparently it's not allowed to be discussed in parliament either?
 

Otis

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,655
nicksar said:
Impossible to get an NHS dentist in Rugby so i go to Stoke Aldermoor dental clinic (part of Bhandals group) they always ask me if i pay for my treatment (which i do,uk pensioner's don't get free treatment)... trust me I'm out of that dental chair in record time on every visit .
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A bit old to still be frightened of needles isn't it?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,656
Nick said:
I mean if you're fleeing a warzone....
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Through numerous safe countries.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,657
Otis said:
A bit old to still be frightened of needles isn't it?
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Trypanophobia apparently.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,658
PVA said:
If you were going to make an incredibly perilous journey to start a new life for your family do you:

A) do it alone, and bring them over once you have settled
B) chuck your wife and young kids on a crowded dinghy in the middle of the Channel


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So they’d let the children and wife stay when their lives are under threat?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #2,659
PVA said:
If you were going to make an incredibly perilous journey to start a new life for your family do you:

A) do it alone, and bring them over once you have settled
B) chuck your wife and young kids on a crowded dinghy in the middle of the Channel


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I don't think you've really thought this through.
 
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Como

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  • Nov 18, 2024
  • #2,660
I can say something as I will not have the Old Bill knocking on my door at 4 am.

Seems the father was up to his what’s it’s in the Rwandan Genocide and Kier was involved in making sure he was not returned to face justice.
 
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