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  • Start date Jul 29, 2024
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torchomatic

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #176
Otis said:
I'd second that. Who's going to take over though?
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I'll third that. Wish I had an Irish passport or similar.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #177
GIMOC said:
Take what to far?

for stating facts. Not one thing I have said is not true

you might not like the truth but it’s true.
For someone to call me racist for stating facts shows to me they haven’t got a logical response to what I say
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It hasn’t been confirmed the ethnicity of the attacker has it?
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #178
Grendel said:
It hasn’t been confirmed the ethnicity of the attacker has it?
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According to twitter guru's it was an Muslim 17 year old
 

Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #179
GIMOC said:
have a look at the stats of ethnicity etc. and there answers your question
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Issues with policing and socioeconomic backgrounds stemming from racism?
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #180
Grendel said:
It hasn’t been confirmed the ethnicity of the attacker has it?
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There are rumours swirling - including a social media post from a man who is reported to be a father of some of the kids who were there. No actual confirmation though and pretty sure the authorities will want to keep a lid on this.
 

Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #181
Grendel said:
It hasn’t been confirmed the ethnicity of the attacker has it?
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Not yet no.
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #182
Jamesimus said:
Issues with policing and socioeconomic backgrounds stemming from racism?
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Whatever the question the answer is always racism.
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #183
Otis said:
No mention of the crossbow incident?

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A domestic incident not a random attack. Awful all the same
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #184
Ccfcisparks said:
According to twitter guru's it was an Muslim 17 year old
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Yes but it’s rumour and not confirmed
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #185
I’m off to Australia for at least a year from November.

It has its problems but I’m glad to be getting away from here for a bit.
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #186
Hmmm - not allowed to name him,or rather 'it',because he's (apparently) 17 - could be a smokescreen
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #187
Grendel said:
Yes but it’s rumour and not confirmed
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His name is being banded about all over the Internet
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #188
This country and society in general really is on its arse.

I was thinking the other day about my children's futures. The way this country has nosedived in the last 20 years, just how bad is it going to be in another 20?

Am I a bad father because I've been drumming into the kids, even at ages 14 and 9, that they need to get qualifications, settle into a career and then get the fuck out of here before we sink into oblivion even more?
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #189
I’ve been waiting for my Irish passport for 8 months now.

When my brother got his, they sent it back with a different persons passport picture on it.
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #190
Jamesimus said:
Issues with policing and socioeconomic backgrounds stemming from racism?
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if you want to go down that route. that’s your choice and opinion
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #191
Grendel said:
Yes but it’s rumour and not confirmed
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No exactly.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #192
Liquid Gold said:
I’m off to Australia for at least a year from November.

It has its problems but I’m glad to be getting away from here for a bit.
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Is that for work, I'd love a year or 2 working there now the kids are older
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #193
GIMOC said:
if you want to go down that route. that’s your choice and opinion
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It’s not an opinion.
 

Diogenes

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #194
torchomatic said:
I'll third that. Wish I had an Irish passport or similar.
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Wait till you see what's happening in Ireland...
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #195
Diogenes said:
why are you obsessed with skin colour?

immigrant = is not a race and is not limited to a certain skin colour
Islam = is not a race and is not limited to a certain skin colour

IF it was this guy - would you still be yapping about racism?

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But regardless, we don't even know yet who or what the motives were for this attack, yet.
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I look at this picture and I make the assumption, rightly or wrongly, that he is not a Christian. I make that because of his headgear but I'm still not sure what religion he is . I'm guessing also he has some kind of influence in his religion hence the picture and the lecturing finger.
Then I noticed he MAY be white
Finally I notice he may be a ginger.
 

GIMOC

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #196
Jamesimus said:
It’s not an opinion.
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So the reason is the police are racist and want to lock up loads of non white people because they are racist. heard it all now

why isn’t there a problem with the Sikh community? they are non white
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #197
Weird, on sky news the bloke just said "we couldn't quite see a description or agree of who was loaded into the air ambulance" but only thing about the bloke was a 17 year old male.

Why are they looking to see who is getting loaded up FFS?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #198
Gynnsthetonic said:
Is that for work, I'd love a year or 2 working there now the kids are older
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Wife’s work. I’ve been at my place for nearly 9 years so taking the opportunity to move on.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #199
Anyone on a terror watch list should be deported if its an option though right? That's a reasonable start. Tf is the point in keeping them on a list if there's an option to fuck them off.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #200
GIMOC said:
So the reason is the police are racist and want to lock up loads of non white people because they are racist. heard it all now

why isn’t there a problem with the Sikh community? they are non white
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I know you’d like it to be. But it’s not as simple as that.

If the question you’re asking is regarding institutional racism of the police force, there’s a wealth of evidence for you to see online there. Actual evidence, not like conspiracy theories.

There are “problems” in all communities as well fyi.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #201
GIMOC said:
that will never happen.

too many different ideology's many dont want to integrate. many do and they no one has a problem with that but more too often now issues in the country are caused by various groups.

look at the past 2 weeks alone and what’s happened in this country


cops getting their face smashed in at Manchester Airport.

soldier getting stabbed.

Leeds riots and now Children getting stabbed and killed in Southport.

Not to mention the daily stabbings in London.

It’s becoming all too common now
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Nothing shocks any more. Lee Rigby did but since then it's almost routine. It's not all about race or religion either. It's just a general acceptance of violence .
Anyone caught carrying a knife should receive a custodial sentence for starters. I'm assuming that doesn't happen but why not .
As for zombie knives etc give em 10 years just for possession .
I forgot ........ Prisons are full.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #202
Fuck. 2 have died. 6 children critical and 2 adults critical.

The 2 adults injured were trying to stop him.
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #203
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Nothing shocks any more. Lee Rigby did but since then it's almost routine. It's not all about race or religion either. It's just a general acceptance of violence .
Anyone caught carrying a knife should receive a custodial sentence for starters. I'm assuming that doesn't happen but why not .
As for zombie knives etc give em 10 years just for possession .
I forgot ........ Prisons are full.
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Have longer sentences proven to do absolutely anything to deter people (genuine question!)?
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #204
Jamesimus said:
I know you’d like it to be. But it’s not as simple as that.

If the question you’re asking is regarding institutional racism of the police force, there’s a wealth of evidence for you to see online there. Actual evidence, not like conspiracy theories.

There are “problems” in all communities as well fyi.
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point me to where Sikhs have committed terrorist attacks in this country?

Show me examples of mass rioting and mob rule mentality by Sikhs in this country?
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #205
TomRad85 said:
Anyone on a terror watch list should be deported if its an option though right? That's a reasonable start. Tf is the point in keeping them on a list if there's an option to fuck them off.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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Anyone , whether they're from Syria, Poland or anywhere who commits a crime requiring a custodial sentence should be deported. Why should you send I pay for their prison time?
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #206
Nick said:
Fuck. 2 have died. 6 children critical and 2 adults critical.

The 2 adults injured were trying to stop him.
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but it’s not a terrorist attack.

the mind boggles
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #207
Originally from Cardiff living near Stockport bbc just reported
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #208
This is why I don’t understand when I state most grooming gangs are Pakistani Muslim and it’s deflected to Huw Edwards and Jimmy Saville.

When I used to work in the corporate world travel to India and Pakistan came with specific warnings that young white women (especially blond) should not travel alone as they are more likely to be targeting for trafficking.

Blindly ignoring this isn’t helpful.

It’s no more helpful than saying even if this killer is a Muslim it’s motivated by ideology - which is unlikely
 
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Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #209
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Anyone , whether they're from Syria, Poland or anywhere who commits a crime requiring a custodial sentence should be deported. Why should you send I pay for their prison time?
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Where do you send a refugee to though, back to France?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #210
Jamesimus said:
Have longer sentences proven to do absolutely anything to deter people (genuine question!)?
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I really don't know but it may deter some . There will be those whom won't ever be put off.
The US has a violent society but the death penalty doesn't put some people off.
 
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