chiefdave
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How would that work, wouldn't you have to staff them with British prison officers? We hardly have loads of those spare.
How would that work, wouldn't you have to staff them with British prison officers? We hardly have loads of those spare.Strong rumours in the MSM that the government are looking at "renting" prison spaces in Estonia to hold those (and others) charged during the riots.
No idea Dave but i saw it in a lot of todays newspapers...will try to find a link.How would that work, wouldn't you have to staff them with British prison officers? We hardly have loads of those spare.
How can he not plead quilty?That’s what was confusing me surely he’s gonna plead guilty
But maybe not
One can only fast track with guilty pleas and to be fair everyone I’ve seen is bang to rights
Depends how you see these things. I’m still unsure how cuplable id be if I just said it would be a good idea to kill Nick and someone did it. If there’s no coercion or influence or manipulation or even direct contact I’m really confusedNeed to let the violent people out to make way for the people from Facebook.
Looks more like its an idea from the Estonian side. There's older articles from a couple of weeks ago where one of their ministers talks about offering out their spare prison capacity to generate income.No idea Dave but i saw it in a lot of todays newspapers...will try to find a link.
Cheaper than Rwanda?Looks more like its an idea from the Estonian side. There's older articles from a couple of weeks ago where one of their ministers talks about offering out their spare prison capacity to generate income.
Can't imagine it would be cheap but something has to be done. Not sure how long we can run with a one in one out system.
I'd consider reighning it in now and I'd allow appeals to be held,then sentences reduced to six months and suspended for a couple of years where possible,he dealt with it, now go after the real destablers to everyday life!
38 weeks in prison after admitting being concerned in the supply of cannabis, two counts of possession of a bladed article in a public place and possession of a weapon for discharge of a noxious liquid – namely pepper spray.
How he can deny the charge when he's caught full on camera encouraging violent disorder I do not know!BBC News - Councillor denies encouraging violent disorder
Kent councillor Ricky Jones denies encouraging violent disorder
Ricky Jones was charged with encouraging violent disorder after comments at a counter-protest.www.bbc.com
BBC News - Rioter who stoked asylum hotel fire gets nine years
Rotherham: Arsonist who stoked bin fire at asylum seeker hotel jailed
Thomas Birley, 27, receives the longest prison sentence passed to date for his role in the disorder.www.bbc.com
I wonder when the full force of the law will be swiftly applied as per the riots?
For anyone who thinks his or other sentences are unreasonable, if you look at the form, they've almost all got previous for similar offences and were jumping onto this bandwagon. Whilst completely unacceptable I'd have more sympathy with some of those who rode along with the wave of went on, but so many seem to have a back history of being a c**t.BBC News - Rioter who stoked asylum hotel fire gets nine years
Rotherham: Arsonist who stoked bin fire at asylum seeker hotel jailed
Thomas Birley, 27, receives the longest prison sentence passed to date for his role in the disorder.www.bbc.com
this guy seems to be a full on white supremasist who would have had no problem if 50+ people had died from his actionsFor anyone who thinks his or other sentences are unreasonable, if you look at the form, they've almost all got previous for similar offences and were jumping onto this bandwagon. Whilst completely unacceptable I'd have more sympathy with some of those who rode along with the wave of went on, but so many seem to have a back history of being a c**t.
It’s called innocent until proven guiltyHow he can deny the charge when he's caught full on camera encouraging violent disorder I do not know!
It’s called innocent until proven guilty
Everyone involved could have pleaded not guilty
What’s the alternative comoPolitical Opponents must take priority
Some crime victims ‘unaware’ of offenders’ early prison release in England and Wales
‘Sizeable minority’ of survivors of crime have not been informed that perpetrators will be freed on Tuesdaywww.theguardian.com
Workhouses,incarcerate them?What’s the alternative como
Talk to me
The prison estate has no space - what do you do?
Never mind TR is organising a march protest for October 26th downing st,in his latest attempt at avoiding jail time!!Workhouses,incarcerate them?
They don’t existWorkhouses,incarcerate them?
Yet!They don’t exist
Political opponents.....! Trumpesque bull$h!t. There were hundreds looting, attacking police and innocent people, throwing objects and inciting hatred and extremism. Just like the Labour Dartford Councillor hopefully will, they have to serve time. Funny how the likes of the idiotic RW's are suddenly less interested in the Tory mantra of being 'tough on crime' and fail to acknowledge that the prison service is an utter shambles thanks to 14 years of complete and utter mis-governance..... on failing to tackle prison crisis, failing to tackle crime and failing to clamping down on extremism and racism.Political Opponents must take priority
Some crime victims ‘unaware’ of offenders’ early prison release in England and Wales
‘Sizeable minority’ of survivors of crime have not been informed that perpetrators will be freed on Tuesdaywww.theguardian.com
It really is an utter shit show and I love the report all the foreigners as if you can just do itPolitical opponents.....! Trumpesque bull$h!t. There were hundreds looting, attacking police and innocent people, throwing objects and inciting hatred and extremism. Just like the Labour Dartford Councillor hopefully will, they have to serve time. Funny how the likes of the idiotic RW's are suddenly less interested in the Tory mantra of being 'tough on crime' and fail to acknowledge that the prison service is an utter shambles thanks to 14 years of complete and utter mis-governance..... on failing to tackle prison crisis, failing to tackle crime and failing to clamping down on extremism and racism.
Prison Reform Trust 2023 report:
" In 2016 Tory government announced £1.3bn for nine new prisons.
Nearly 10,700 prison places have been closed since 2010—many of them old and/or dilapidated. At the same time, nearly 11,000 places have been created, a net increase of just 300 prison places" [between 2010 and 2023].
Blame the new prime minister.Glad you two find it funny that dangerous people are being released
The previous home office minister's lucky she's not getting a visit with her fascist language tbf, language does matter you know real-time or online!Blame the new prime minister.
Dangerous people are those posting online now remember.
Blame the new prime minister.
Dangerous people are those posting online now remember.
Maybe deport some of the foreign nationals in prison and you instantly get some space as well.I'd like to say I'm surprised some of you revelling in the blame game of one government or another. These are not either or for me. The cunts rioting deserve locking up. The cunts being freed should still be locked up. If we're running out of space then make prison building and expansion a priority. And until they're built, then make them 3 to a cell if necessary. Ffs if they don't like it tough, they're not in for a holiday.
Agree, but only after they've served their time or it can be guaranteed they will serve it in their home country. It seems presently that going home is a free pass.Maybe deport some of the foreign nationals in prison and you instantly get some space as well.
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