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Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,171
GIMOC said:
just out of interest. your thoughts on the murders in Germany?
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The killer was seen eating a Brotwurst so he’s clearly embracing German culture
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,172
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Suppose the country goes bonkers and makes GIMOC the PM tomorrow.

What do you want to get done?
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the damage is already done. uncontrolled knife crime because there is no deterrent

anyone caught with a knife should be prosecuted and sent to jail immediately like they have done with the protesters

instead the Labour government are offering money to people to hand knives in

you look at knife crime what is actually being done to stop it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,173
GIMOC said:
the damage is already done. uncontrolled knife crime because there is no deterrent

anyone caught with a knife should be prosecuted and sent to jail immediately like they have done with the protesters

instead the Labour government are offering money to people to hand knives in

you look at knife crime what is actually being done to stop it?
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OK so you’re saying there’s nothing anyone can do. No ideas of your own, just more race baiting in the off topic.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,174
Brighton Sky Blue said:
OK so you’re saying there’s nothing anyone can do. No ideas of your own, just more race baiting in the off topic.
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I just said. Anyone caught with a knife should be prosecuted and punished immediately. You not agree?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,175
GIMOC said:
I just said. Anyone caught with a knife should be prosecuted and punished immediately. You not agree?
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I don’t think anyone one here would disagree. I’d make it a mandatory 5 years for carrying one with life for even just brandishing them in public.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,176
Brighton Sky Blue said:
OK so you’re saying there’s nothing anyone can do. No ideas of your own, just more race baiting in the off topic.
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also how is race baiting

Did I try to murder someone in the neck? No but seems you have a problem with me sharing it but not the actual stabbing. strange take
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,177
Nick said:
Its weird how you're more bothered about somebody posting the video than the actual content. Are you starmer?

The description says he was pushing a "baby stroller".
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I did see it posted from a lot of the typical ‘extreme right’ accounts (must be in my cookies now after they’d been posted on here!) and my initial reaction was it was someone pushing belongings along. Then when I saw baby stroller (and one page mentioned ‘partner’ as well) I had to re-watch to check, but still wasn’t sure.

There’s two aspects to this, though - the incident itself is fucking despicable and knife crime in general seems to be growing exponentially without a sound plan to tackle it, but there’s a desire of these ‘extreme right’ pages to amplify anything a non-white person has done and frame it in an anti-immigration way. Both are highly disturbing.
 
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mmttww

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,178
If this thread is going to become some awful "Look how bad the UK is (and it's probs foreigners fault)!" where people scramble to find stories to suit their narrative, shouldn't it be closed? I don't see any relevance to the Southport attack in anything people are posting now.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,179
Sick Boy said:
I don’t think anyone one here would disagree. I’d make it a mandatory 5 years for carrying one with life for even just brandishing them in public.
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so why don’t we do it? Because the government is weak on knife crime and tories were the same
 
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SBAndy

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,180
Sick Boy said:
I don’t think anyone one here would disagree. I’d make it a mandatory 5 years for carrying one with life for even just brandishing them in public.
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What if you’re on the way back from John Lewis or ProCook? Will a receipt be sufficient for a caution?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,181
mmttww said:
If this thread is going to become some awful "Look how bad the UK is (and it's probs foreigners fault)!" where people scramble to find stories to suit their narrative, shouldn't it be closed? I don't see any relevance to the Southport attack in anything people are posting now.
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Or we have a sub thread for stabbings - it’s seems a continuation of a theme doesn’t it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,182
Sick Boy said:
I don’t think anyone one here would disagree. I’d make it a mandatory 5 years for carrying one with life for even just brandishing them in public.
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100%, don't pass go and have them charged and in prison by the end of the week.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,183
SBAndy said:
What if you’re on the way back from John Lewis or ProCook? Will a receipt be sufficient for a caution?
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Obviously it’s completely different.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,184
Sick Boy said:
Obviously it’s completely different.
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I know, I was taking the piss.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,185
GIMOC said:
so why don’t we do it? Because the government is weak on knife crime and tories were the same
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No idea but penalties should be increased.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,186
GIMOC said:
so why don’t we do it? Because the government is weak on knife crime and tories were the same
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Because we did away with "stop and search" as it was considered to be racist, despite it being proven many times by the police, that most knife crime was "black on black" knife crime. (That was the Tory Government)

So we basically made it s good as legal to carry a knife on the streets of the UK.

Fucking insanity.

Your more likely to go to prison under this government, (Labour) for something you've said on line than you are for carrying a knife.
 
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mmttww

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,187
Grendel said:
Or we have a sub thread for stabbings - it’s seems a continuation of a theme doesn’t it?
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Sounds about right. If people want to talk about knife crime, have a thread about it. Feels grim dragging on a thread about kids being killed so people can try and score internet points.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,188
The issue is, people are getting longer sentences within a week of being arrested for posting on social media than people who carry and even use knives.

Clearly it's easy targets.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,189
Nick said:
Its weird how you're more bothered about somebody posting the video than the actual content. Are you starmer?

The description says he was pushing a "baby stroller".
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“all opinions welcome”- apart from if you point out lies which are an attempt to demonise immigrants and non-white people, that’s not so welcome
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,190
Ring Of Steel said:
Oh so GIMOC was sharing lies was he? Hold the front page on that one.

They don’t sound like immigrants fresh off a boat to me, going by their accents they sound like indigenous British scumbags.

So if it’s lies that he was pushing a baby, and they’re not in fact “immigrants fresh off a boat” so immigration has nothing to do with it, that just makes them dangerous c*nts who need locking up.

the people immediately looking to blame immigration & skin colour like GIMOC & his little crew- maybe take a look at your own prejudices and ask whether you’re spending too much time on ultra right wing social media pages.
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Strenge how you lambast others for making comments that suit a narrative but have now already concluded the person is indigenous British (whatever that means)
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,191
SBAndy said:
I did see it posted from a lot of the typical ‘extreme right’ accounts (must be in my cookies now after they’d been posted on here!) and my initial reaction was it was someone pushing belongings along. Then when I saw baby stroller (and one page mentioned ‘partner’ as well) I had to re-watch to check, but still wasn’t sure.

There’s two aspects to this, though - the incident itself is fucking despicable and knife crime in general seems to be growing exponentially without a sound plan to tackle it, but there’s a desire of these ‘extreme right’ pages to amplify anything a non-white person has done and frame it in an anti-immigration way. Both are highly disturbing.
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The replies under it are a mix of blatant racism and parroting stuff from alt-right American accounts. It’s hard to know what’s actually written by people or bots.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,192
Grendel said:
Strenge how you lambast others for making comments that suit a narrative but have now already concluded the person is indigenous British (whatever that means)
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To play you at your own silly semantic word salad game, I have not concluded anything.

So you‘re saying think you don’t think a black person can be British?

easy to play with words to go after others but avoid stating any kind of opinion yourself, isn’t it- you’re the forum’s number one for that.
 

fatso

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,193
mmttww said:
If this thread is going to become some awful "Look how bad the UK is (and it's probs foreigners fault)!" where people scramble to find stories to suit their narrative, shouldn't it be closed? I don't see any relevance to the Southport attack in anything people are posting now.
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It is relevant as the discussion is about knife crime.

And if people discussing how dangerous the streets have become due to knife crime, then it's very relevant.

It's only when people discuss WHO is doing the knife crime that there becomes a clamour to shut the debate down.

Why is that do you think?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,194
Sick Boy said:
The replies under it are a mix of blatant racism and parroting stuff from alt-right American accounts. It’s hard to know what’s actually written by people or bots.
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all welcome on here of course.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,195
fatso said:
It is relevant as the discussion is about knife crime.

And if people discussing how dangerous the streets have become due to knife crime, then it's very relevant.

It's only when people discuss WHO is doing the knife crime that there becomes a clamour to shut the debate down.

Why is that do you think?
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No one is clamouring for it to be shut down and the incident has been widely reported.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,196
Ring Of Steel said:
To play you at your own silly semantic word salad game, I have not concluded anything.

So you‘re saying think you don’t think a black person can be British?

easy to play with words to go after others but avoid stating any kind of opinion yourself, isn’t it- you’re the forum’s number one for that.
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Well Shemima Begum was British but was motivated to encourage people to be beheaded by a very non British ideology
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,197
fatso said:
It is relevant as the discussion is about knife crime.

And if people discussing how dangerous the streets have become due to knife crime, then it's very relevant.

It's only when people discuss WHO is doing the knife crime that there becomes a clamour to shut the debate down.

Why is that do you think?
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In part due to the fact you have people like GIMOC automatically peppering everyone with racist, far right propaganda at the drop of a hat.

It’s kind of obvious that these crimes are beyond depraved, it’s the constant racism & xenophobia that, for some, is a bit sickening
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,198
Grendel said:
Well Shemima Begum was British but was motivated to encourage people to be beheaded by a very non British ideology
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Point proven
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,199
Ring Of Steel said:
all welcome on here of course.
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Here we go.

The video text said baby stroller rather than "family man out with his kids stabbed"

You have also decided on the nationality of the bloke stabbing while being annoyed at others deciding on his nationality.

I think just watching the video shows the issues with knife crime but the blame still lies with "the far right".

The government need to be hitting knife crime hard.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,200
Ring Of Steel said:
In part due to the fact you have people like GIMOC automatically peppering everyone with racist, far right propaganda at the drop of a hat.

It’s kind of obvious that these crimes are beyond depraved, it’s the constant racism & xenophobia that, for some, is a bit sickening
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Genuinely, what's racist or xenophobic about that video?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,201
Nick said:
Here we go.

The video text said baby stroller rather than "family man out with his kids stabbed"

You have also decided on the nationality of the bloke stabbing while being annoyed at others deciding on his nationality.

I think just watching the video shows the issues with knife crime but the blame still lies with "the far right".

The government need to be hitting knife crime hard.
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your last sentence is correct, it’s the stuff by GIMOC and his little crew that are wrong, in my humble opinion. Designed to stoke hatred of anyone non-white.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,202
Ring Of Steel said:
Point proven
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Not really - the Manchester police affair had many people jumping to conclusions about “institutional racism” when it turned out a couple of scumbags - of Muslim descent but probably very British - commited a violent unprovoked assault on the police.

Oh and then tried to claim they were innocent victims of an assination attempt which promoted a bit of rioting and a few Palestinian flags
 

Nick

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,203
Ring Of Steel said:
your last sentence is correct, it’s the stuff by GIMOC and his little crew that are wrong, in my humble opinion. Designed to stoke hatred of anyone non-white.
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What in that video is designed to stoke hatred?

Its almost as if it's some sort of denial of issues by making out it's just racist propaganda.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,204
GIMOC said:
just out of interest. your thoughts on the murders in Germany?
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Hey @Ring Of Steel you seem to have missed this question
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 25, 2024
  • #2,205
Ring Of Steel said:
In part due to the fact you have people like GIMOC automatically peppering everyone with racist, far right propaganda at the drop of a hat.

It’s kind of obvious that these crimes are beyond depraved, it’s the constant racism & xenophobia that, for some, is a bit sickening
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I understand that, but unfortunately the perpetrators of the vast majority of the sickening acts usually come from a minority of the population, when it's a fact that's being pointed out it's not racism, it's a fact.

The communities arnt policing themselves, and the police force appear too frightened to act, while the government are seeking to silence any one who points out the blindingly obvious.

It appears that your more likely to go to prison for demonstrating about knife crime than you are for committing knife crime.

Last I heard (it may of changed since) but the people who attacked the police officers at Manchester airport, and smashed a police women's nose, havnt even been charged with any offence!!!

But the government have locked an old white women up for comments she made on line!!!

Please God, tell me that's not true!
 
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