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GIMOC

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  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #106
Liquid Gold said:
Should have been banned already.

Moderators happy for this place to turn into a twitter style cesspit of racism.
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please please please show me something that I said is racist.

please
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #107
Gynnsthetonic said:
With this all going on, Merseyside police post this this afternoon, unbelievable
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They have to be at pride events because unfortunately there are a lot of violent homophobes about and it’s a high risk event.

Unfortunately there isn’t much they can do about a lone nutter other than arrive on scene asap.
 
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Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #108
Guys, we have no idea who has done this or why, so let's not get into it now, yeah?

It's so fucking tragic, hope everyone pulls through. Thoughts with the family, can't imagine the hell they're going through right now.
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #109
Liquid Gold said:
They have to be at pride events because unfortunately there are a lot of violent homophobes about and it’s a high risk event.

Unfortunately there isn’t much they can do about a lone nutter other than arrive on scene asap.
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it’s the timing of the tweet by the police which they have deleted since because they realised
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #110
Liquid Gold said:
They have to be at pride events because unfortunately there are a lot of violent homophobes about and it’s a high risk event.

Unfortunately there isn’t much they can do about a lone nutter other than arrive on scene asap.
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100% agree they couldn't of done anything, just seems very disrespectful that their own police force need to advertise this this afternoon
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #111
Gynnsthetonic said:
100% agree they couldn't of done anything, just seems very disrespectful that their own police force need to advertise this this afternoon
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Yeah unfortunate timing agreed. The best interpretation is that they snapped some pics early and had it on a timer which someone forgot to cancel.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #112
GIMOC said:
a 17 yo old illegal immigrant kills and butchers kids
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Where has his ethnicity been reported? He's obviously a nutter, the colour of his skin is irrelevant.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #113
GIMOC said:
Tragedy point scoring is the biggest cop out when it goes against your narrative

a 17 yo old illegal immigrant kills and butchers kids but because it doesn’t suit your political stance then it’s called point scoring.

It’s called stating facts

similar to the Manchester arena bombings. these scum have no shame whatsoever and happy to target innocent kids
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You are incapable of rational thought.
People are insinuating that if the police hadnt been at a pride event they could have prevented this happening, its bollocks.

That's using the event to point score.

My political stance I'd that we shouldn't have cut 20k officers and 20k support staff and we should have more police on the beat but I doubt that would have stopped it either.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #114
Liquid Gold said:
Yeah unfortunate timing agreed. The best interpretation is that they snapped some pics early and had it on a timer which someone forgot to cancel.
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Was it posted after the attack?
That is poor if so.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #115
13 ambulances were called to the scene. It's not rocket science to work out how much carnage this person has created.
I can't for the life of me understand what has gone on for a 17 year old to do this. I have no sympathy. I hope they get locked away for life.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #116
clint van damme said:
Was it posted after the attack?
That is poor if so.
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It is more than likely a scheduled tweet to be fair.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #117
torchomatic said:
Where has his ethnicity been reported? He's obviously a nutter, the colour of his skin is irrelevant.
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His God may have told him to do it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #118
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
13 ambulances were called to the scene. It's not rocket science to work out how much carnage this person has created.
I can't for the life of me understand what has gone on for a 17 year old to do this. I have no sympathy. I hope they get locked away for life.
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Its madness, I don't get how it isn't a terror attack.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #119
Diogenes said:
why are you obsessed with skin colour?

immigrant = is not a race and is not limited to a certain skin colour
Islam = is not a race and is not limited to a certain skin colour

IF it was this guy - would you still be yapping about racism?

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I'm not. Gimoc is, which is why I asked him where he got the info from.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #120
clint van damme said:
You are incapable of rational thought.
People are insinuating that if the police hadnt been at a pride event they could have prevented this happening, its bollocks.

That's using the event to point score.

My political stance I'd that we shouldn't have cut 20k officers and 20k support staff and we should have more police on the beat but I doubt that would have stopped it either.
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Mental health services in this country have been gutted in the last 14 years, while it may not have prevented this incident there are many people not getting the help they need.

The idea that the ethnic background of the attacker is of significance when white British people have carried out plenty of disgusting acts of violence of their own in recent years is abhorrent.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #121
GIMOC said:
again show me. did I? again another one who shouts racist because it doesn’t agree with your opinion.

shouting racist is a cop out when you can’t actually have a discussion or debate about something
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Indians play the victim card


Blacks stir a lot of the issues in todays world


Jews have the tendency to kick up a fuss and use the religion card

I’ve changed one word ‘Muslim’ in your posts and if you can’t see how incredibly racist all of those are then you’re fucked.

Each one is a banning offence in a reasonable space
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #122
Nick said:
Its madness, I don't get how it isn't a terror attack.
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What are the prerequisites for a "terror attack" anyway?
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #123
Liquid Gold said:
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play the victim card

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Blacks stir a lot of the issues in todays world

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Jews have the tendency to kick up a fuss and use the religion card

I’ve changed one word ‘Muslim’ in your posts and if you can’t see how incredibly racist all of those are then you’re fucked.

Each one is a banning offence in a reasonable space
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each statement is true. if you don’t agree that’s fine but many can see it with eyes and doesn’t mean we’re racist

Highlighting issues isn’t racist unless you don’t agree with it
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #124
Ccfcisparks said:
whats the solution though, thats practical and rational
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you should only be allowed to come into this country with background check, passport and paperwork for a start. otherwise how do we know who is coming into the country?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #125
torchomatic said:
What are the prerequisites for a "terror attack" anyway?
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It seems like if he used a gun it's a terror attack but they can say it's not because it was a machete?

Either way, it's caused a lot of terror for the victims who were just innocent kids having fun.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #126
Nick said:
Its madness, I don't get how it isn't a terror attack.
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I agree. Those there, victims and those who managed to escape will have been absolutely terrified and will be haunted forever by what went on, defi Italy a terrorist attack, regardless of the motivation
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #127
GIMOC said:
you should only be allowed to come into this country with background check, passport and paperwork for a start. otherwise how do we know who is coming into the country?
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Yes thats fine, but i thought the issue was that they had already integrated into the UK so how do we sort that
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #128
I don't understand how illegal immigrant can have mental health issues and be on a watchlist and just allowed out and about?

We need some fucking rules??

That's if this is true if course. Fake news is rife
 
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stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #129
torchomatic said:
What are the prerequisites for a "terror attack" anyway?
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I think (without checking) it needs to have been carried out with political aims. But everyone would agree it’s a terrifying event for all but the depraved shit carrying it out and I’d gladly see the legal definition extended if it meant this type of act yielded whole life or enhanced tariffs.
 
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Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #130
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Mental health services in this country have been gutted in the last 14 years, while it may not have prevented this incident there are many people not getting the help they need.

The idea that the ethnic background of the attacker is of significance when white British people have carried out plenty of disgusting acts of violence of their own in recent years is abhorrent.
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Liquid Gold said:
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play the victim card

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Blacks stir a lot of the issues in todays world

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Jews have the tendency to kick up a fuss and use the religion card

I’ve changed one word ‘Muslim’ in your posts and if you can’t see how incredibly racist all of those are then you’re fucked.

Each one is a banning offence in a reasonable space
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The thing is, if you said "the English have a tendency to be a bunch of fat slobs on holiday who get drunk and cause mayhem amongst the local communities in spain" nobody would have an issue with it.

Because it's true.

A generalisation exists through everyone's collective lived experience. It doesn't mean ALL are.

It's probably the same reason many on this forum would cross a road if they saw a gang of "teens" sitting outside a shop wearing bomber jackets and shoulder bags. Not all gangs of teens are knife welding thuggish gang members, yet you still cross the road..
 
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GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #131
Liquid Gold said:
You spent the whole of yesterday generalising a whole group of people you stupid prick.
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answer me this question please

all the news coming out of Southport from locals that the person who committed this a 17yo illegal immigrant known to mi6 and mental health services in Liverpool.

why aren’t the Muslim community who are were up in arms about Manchester airport incident, up in arms about a gypsy family in Leeds up in arms about kids dying in Palestine not now coming out in support of the children in Southport?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #132
Skybluekyle said:
Guys, we have no idea who has done this or why, so let's not get into it now, yeah?

It's so fucking tragic, hope everyone pulls through. Thoughts with the family, can't imagine the hell they're going through right now.
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It will be a lifetime of hell for them!
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #133
covcity4life said:
I don't understand how illegal immigrant can have mental health issues and be on a watchlist and just allowed out and about?

We need some fucking rules??

That's if this is true if course. Fake news is rife
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Sounds like bollocks to me, but yeah we'll have to see what the real details are.
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #134
GIMOC said:
answer me this question please

all the news coming out of Southport from locals that the person who committed this a 17yo illegal immigrant known to mi6 and mental health services in Liverpool.

why aren’t the Muslim community who are were up in arms about Manchester airport incident, up in arms about a gypsy family in Leeds up in arms about kids dying in Palestine not now coming out in support of the children in Southport?
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I mean, they probably are. You just won’t hear about it on Tommy Robinson YouTube channel or your conspiracy theory twitter accounts.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #135
GIMOC said:
answer me this question please

all the news coming out of Southport from locals that the person who committed this a 17yo illegal immigrant known to mi6 and mental health services in Liverpool.

why aren’t the Muslim community who are were up in arms about Manchester airport incident, up in arms about a gypsy family in Leeds up in arms about kids dying in Palestine not now coming out in support of the children in Southport?
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Because they were protesting what they thought was racism

They don't need to come together to say sorry about this as they didn't do it?????
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #136
GIMOC said:
answer me this question please

all the news coming out of Southport from locals that the person who committed this a 17yo illegal immigrant known to mi6 and mental health services in Liverpool.

why aren’t the Muslim community who are were up in arms about Manchester airport incident, up in arms about a gypsy family in Leeds up in arms about kids dying in Palestine not now coming out in support of the children in Southport?
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Have you been up in arms about any of the appalling child abuse cases carried out by white British couples in the past few years?
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #137
GIMOC said:
you should only be allowed to come into this country with background check, passport and paperwork for a start. otherwise how do we know who is coming into the country?
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Wow, what a great idea. It’s taken years and years, but finally someone on a football forum has thought of the idea to save us from all these dangerous criminals! No, not the ones born in this country, he’s not bothered about those ones. But anyway, yeah let’s implement that, I’m sure it wouldn’t throw up a whole host of other problems / issues.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #138
Jamesimus said:
Wow, what a great idea. It’s taken years and years, but finally someone on a football forum has thought of the idea to save us from all these dangerous criminals! No, not the ones born in this country, he’s not bothered about those ones. But anyway, yeah let’s implement that, I’m sure it wouldn’t throw up a whole host of other problems / issues.
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So we shouldn't do any checks then ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #139
This country is fucking shit. I honestly wish I was in a position to emigrate.
 
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GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2024
  • #140
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes thats fine, but i thought the issue was that they had already integrated into the UK so how do we sort that
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that will never happen.

too many different ideology's many dont want to integrate. many do and they no one has a problem with that but more too often now issues in the country are caused by various groups.

look at the past 2 weeks alone and what’s happened in this country


cops getting their face smashed in at Manchester Airport.

soldier getting stabbed.

Leeds riots and now Children getting stabbed and killed in Southport.

Not to mention the daily stabbings in London.

It’s becoming all too common now
 
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