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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,331
Not working out well for some of the rioters (sounds painful from the female sounding screams)

 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,332
torchomatic said:
Utterly depressing. Think we're in for a lot more trouble over the summer.

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How very sensationalist.
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,333
CCFCSteve said:
Not working out well for some of the rioters (sounds painful from the female sounding screams)

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Does someone shout police brutality there?

Idiots.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,334
CCFCSteve said:
Not working out well for some of the rioters (sounds painful from the female sounding screams)

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Hold on. We're allowed to throw bricks, rocks and wheely bins at you. You're not allowed to touch us.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,335
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
How very sensationalist.
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In what way?
 

Otis

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,336
torchomatic said:
Hold on. We're allowed to throw bricks, rocks and wheely bins at you. You're not allowed to touch us.
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You reap what you sow.

And before anyone says anything, this is absolutely NOTHING like the airport incident.
 
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stay_up_skyblues

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,337
CCFCSteve said:
Not working out well for some of the rioters (sounds painful from the female sounding screams)

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“I pay your wages”

 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,338
I would fully support Starmer's Stormers having water cannon capability. I really don't know how it was deemed "illegal" when Boris tried it. Change the fucking law so it IS legal. It is reasonable non-lethal force. Can you imagine what US police would have done if confronted with the mob in Southport the other night??
The thing that surprised me (having just watched some live and drone footage) is why the police line took so long to charge the crowd. When they did, the brave patriots scattered like a bunch of schoolgirls. Could have saved a lot of injuries and property damage.

I'm sick of these Youtube warriors trying to film "police brutality", while committing offences themselves.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,339
It's exactly as I said in the airport and other riot threads

Yep I agree with the water canons too, they would get a fair bit of use and could have put the fires out in Leeds too when the police were running away.

I don't know why they aren't legal and used for things like this, I'd watch the highlight reels of people kicking off being flushed away.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,340
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I'm sick of these Youtube warriors trying to film "police brutality", while committing offences themselves.
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Totally agree, fuck around and find out.

Not sure about how people find "police brutality" entertaining but only if it's against a certain demographic and not another. It's just as I said in the airport thread that if it was Tommy Robinson hitting a copper and getting stamped on, the same people upset would have been loving it. (To be fair I would think fuck around and find out too).
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,341
The whole "he was just a little choirboy" while using pictures of him as a kid in the media is a little bit strange.

What next, pictures of Ian Huntley when he was 3 and that he loved his Nan?

Is this him?

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,342
Nick said:
The whole "he was just a little choirboy" while using pictures of him as a kid in the media is a little bit strange.

What next, pictures of Ian Huntley when he was 3 and that he loved his Nan?

Is this him?

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Im guessing at 17 most of the people with photos of him were school kids
 

Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,343
shmmeee said:
Im guessing at 17 most of the people with photos of him were school kids
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People look a lot different between 13 and 17. Guessing his social media has been removed if he had it.

For some reason it's being pushed as the poor young. autistic choirboy.

Strange as there's people who also say they knew him from school that say he was kicked out for taking a knife into school but its the choirboy approach all over the news.
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,344
Nick said:
The whole "he was just a little choirboy" while using pictures of him as a kid in the media is a little bit strange.

What next, pictures of Ian Huntley when he was 3 and that he loved his Nan?

Is this him?

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Well, he still is a kid. Those pictures you've posted are most likely the only ones we'll see.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,345
torchomatic said:
Well, he still is a kid. Those pictures you've posted are most likely the only ones we'll see.
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Why are they going to be the only ones we see?
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,346
Nick said:
Why are they going to be the only ones we see?
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Because he's locked up inside. His social media accounts will have been taken down. Who knows?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,347
torchomatic said:
Because he's locked up inside. His social media accounts will have been taken down. Who knows?
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I'm pretty sure if people can film a half decent porno in prison with a guard. They can take a picture.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,348
Nick said:
I'm pretty sure if people can film a half decent porno in prison with a guard. They can take a picture.
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Is it common to get pictures of people locked up and awaiting trial? Seems like you’re looking for something to get offended at.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,349
shmmeee said:
Is it common to get pictures of people locked up and awaiting trial? Seems like you’re looking for something to get offended at.
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I'm not offended, I'm just asking the question.

Nobody else finds it strange he's being painted as a choir boy across the media? Regardless of anything else, he's an animal who targeted and killed innocent kids yet the media are painting him as an innocent child who is in the choir.

Just need somebody to post some pictures of Tommy Robinson as a kid playing nicely to see people's real views.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,350
Nick said:
I'm not offended, I'm just asking the question.

Nobody else finds it strange he's being painted as a choir boy across the media? Regardless of anything else, he's an animal who targeted and killed innocent kids yet the media are painting him as an innocent child who is in the choir.

Just need somebody to post some pictures of Tommy Robinson as a kid playing nicely to see people's real views.
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Think you're reading too much in to it.
I don't think anyone's trying to paint him as a choir boy and they'd be wasting their time if they did.

Think it's just whatever photos they can get their hands on.
I'm sure they'll be photos of him inside emerging soon enough.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,351
clint van damme said:
Think you're reading too much in to it.
I don't think anyone's trying to paint him as a choir boy and they'd be wasting their time if they did.

Think it's just whatever photos they can get their hands on.
I'm sure they'll be photos of him inside emerging soon enough.
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Oh no the media are literally labelling him as choir boy. There's no trying to paint that picture about it, they are pushing the autistic, church going choir boy as headlines and descriptions.

Be interesting to know if he went straight from choir practice to his rampage. Maybe he helped an old woman across the road when he was 13 that they can use.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,352
Nick said:
Totally agree, fuck around and find out.
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clint van damme said:
I don't think anyone's trying to paint him as a choir boy and they'd be wasting their time if they did.
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The standard narrative would actually be loss of childhood innocence. That's what's more shocking and that's what any imagery would play into.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,353
torchomatic said:
In what way?
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We know all of that anyway. It's absolutely nothing new.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,354
Deleted member 5849 said:
The standard narrative would actually be loss of childhood innocence. That's what's more shocking and that's what any imagery would play into.
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Really? He was pretty much 18 when he committed the crime.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,355
Nick said:
I'm not offended, I'm just asking the question.

Nobody else finds it strange he's being painted as a choir boy across the media? Regardless of anything else, he's an animal who targeted and killed innocent kids yet the media are painting him as an innocent child who is in the choir.

Just need somebody to post some pictures of Tommy Robinson as a kid playing nicely to see people's real views.
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I think it’s powerful to show how normal he was and that something happened to mean he did possibly the worst thing a human could do
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,356
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I would fully support Starmer's Stormers having water cannon capability. I really don't know how it was deemed "illegal" when Boris tried it. Change the fucking law so it IS legal. It is reasonable non-lethal force. Can you imagine what US police would have done if confronted with the mob in Southport the other night??
The thing that surprised me (having just watched some live and drone footage) is why the police line took so long to charge the crowd. When they did, the brave patriots scattered like a bunch of schoolgirls. Could have saved a lot of injuries and property damage.

I'm sick of these Youtube warriors trying to film "police brutality", while committing offences themselves.
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Unsure on the reasoning that they’re illegal, but I think Boris brought them in as London Mayor i.e. not in an office to implement proper legislation.
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,357
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
We know all of that anyway. It's absolutely nothing new.
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Nonsense.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,358
Nick said:
I'm not offended, I'm just asking the question.

Nobody else finds it strange he's being painted as a choir boy across the media? Regardless of anything else, he's an animal who targeted and killed innocent kids yet the media are painting him as an innocent child who is in the choir.

Just need somebody to post some pictures of Tommy Robinson as a kid playing nicely to see people's real views.
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Ive not read the media mate. But you see this a lot, see the reporting or almost any monster especially domestic violence. “His neighbours say he was a quiet man who always tipped the paper boy”. It’s a normal journalist thing to go “ooohhh it could be anyone even nice Mr Jones next door”.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,359
shmmeee said:
Is it common to get pictures of people locked up and awaiting trial? Seems like you’re looking for something to get offended at.
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At what stage is the traditional ‘mug shot’ taken? On charging or on sentencing?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,360
torchomatic said:
Utterly depressing. Think we're in for a lot more trouble over the summer.

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You really are trying to get a reaction with this aren't you.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,361
Nick said:
Totally agree, fuck around and find out.

Not sure about how people find "police brutality" entertaining but only if it's against a certain demographic and not another. It's just as I said in the airport thread that if it was Tommy Robinson hitting a copper and getting stamped on, the same people upset would have been loving it. (To be fair I would think fuck around and find out too).
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If that in any other country if you weren't shot dead you'd be facing 20 years in jail.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,362
SBAndy said:
Unsure on the reasoning that they’re illegal, but I think Boris brought them in as London Mayor i.e. not in an office to implement proper legislation.
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Home Secretary's oral statement on water cannon

Theresa May's oral statement to parliament on her decision on the use of water cannon by police in England and Wales
www.gov.uk

My take on it: You don't want to get injured by being hit by the full force of the water cannon? GO HOME!
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,363
Sky Blue Pete said:
I think it’s powerful to show how normal he was and that something happened to mean he did possibly the worst thing a human could do
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Is it? I think it's misleading.

He clearly wasn't normal.

Maybe we can talk about other mass murderers being in the scouts?
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,364
Gynnsthetonic said:
You really are trying to get a reaction with this aren't you.
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Literally a handful of people trying so hard to get a reaction last night.

Strangely no response when asked basic questions about how you change a demographic of something and their views switch.
 
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nicksar

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  • Aug 2, 2024
  • #1,365
"Maybe we can talk about other mass murderers being in the scouts"
I know it shouldn't but that made me chuckle .
On balance I think a few things the press are currently mentioning are pretty pointless..... I'm sure the parents of the murdered and injured children will find little comfort in knowing the murderer was once a choir boy.
 
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