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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,086
Grendel said:
Well there are some images of him at school and being banned for carrying knives

Ex school colleague said he wanted to commit a Rwandan style genocide

Father was implicit in Rwandan genocide
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If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,087
torchomatic said:
Thge ripple effect of the misinformation and racism. There's a video of the trouble in Hartlepool last night. Some right-wing thickos singing their praise to Tommy Robinson. Asian guy happens to be walking past and one of said thickos punches him in the face. Wish they would round up all these hateful cunts and plonk them on a remote uninhabited island somewhere to rot.
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I think that’s a breach of the ECHR isn’t it? Are you suggesting we need to leave it?
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,088
Otis said:


Awful. Hope that's not true.
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Fraid it will be a factor to consider?
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,089
eastwoodsdustman said:
If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.
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Id say of the theee rumours thats the flakiest
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,090
torchomatic said:
The ripple effect of the misinformation and racism. There's a video of the trouble in Hartlepool last night. Some right-wing thickos singing their praise to Tommy Robinson. Asian guy happens to be walking past and one of said thickos punches him in the face. Wish they would round up all these hateful cunts and plonk them on a remote uninhabited island somewhere to rot.
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You're speaking about a town where they hung a monkey for being a spy Torch!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,091
wingy said:
That Atherton bloke?
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There's more than just him but hes an example.
I mean, if you continually have to lie to try and validate your political opinion, maybe its not very sound in the first place.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,092
eastwoodsdustman said:
You're speaking about a town where they hung a monkey for being a spy Torch!
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Yeah, true.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,093
Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,094
Grendel said:
Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

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And, he does it all while sat by his pool in Spain, which triggers thickos throughout the UK.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,095
Grendel said:
Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

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Not that many Hutus in Southport, i'd have thought.
 

Como

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,096


Southport murder accused named as Axel Rudakubana

Judge allows naming of 17-year-old boy charged with three counts of murder and 10 of attempted murder
www.theguardian.com
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,097
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Not that many Hutus in Southport, i'd have thought.
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With the political landscape of the past year it'll be some twisted reasoning behind all this IMO?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,098
Otis said:
I felt they had to.

Especially with wrong names flying about the internet. Could easily result in someone else being wrongly attacked.
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Arguably wouldn’t anyone being attacked be wrong.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,099
MalcSB said:
Arguably wouldn’t anyone being attacked be wrong.
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Maybe "mistakenly" is a better term?
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,100
Sky Blue Pete said:
Foreign name will embolden reform and racists
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They already knew he was of Rwandan descent so not really adding much.
 
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Harry Krishner

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,101

eastwoodsdustman said:
If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.
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I understand the UK has harboured a good number of individuals with murderous backgrounds over the years from a variety of places.
 
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Como

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,102



First sketch of Axel Muganwa Rudakubanapublished at 12:56
12:56BREAKING​


The sketch was drawn in court in Liverpool this morning.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,103
Grendel said:
Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

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“What does he look like now?”

I wonder what the significance of that is, Tommy.
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,104
Grendel said:
Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

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It's insane. Only looked at one comment below and that said "this confirms it was a racially motivated terrorist attack.

Just because some random poster has put on there that he was in his/her class at school and was carrying knives and he said it needed a Rwandan type genocide to put things right here

Weird that some people don't believe the press or the BBC or the police, but DO believe that this person WAS actually at school with the boy.

Anyone can say anything online. You can't just take that as gospel. It's like the only came over a year ago etc. and it wouldn't take much at all to find a photo of the boy on the internet..

People WILL definitely take stuff like this as gospel.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,105
It’s just impatience at this point. He’s been caught. It’ll all come out as to why he did it. Not sure other than people’s curiosity the point of guessing now is.
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 1, 2024
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MalcSB said:
Arguably wouldn’t anyone being attacked be wrong.
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Yeah. I mean the name that was banded about as the attacker, that was wrong.
 
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Deleted member 162

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,107
SBAndy said:
“What does he look like now?”

I wonder what the significance of that is, Tommy.
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Why would they not show an up to date photograph anyway? They clearly have access, why wouldn't they? Why infantilise someone who has murdered children? What is the benefit?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,108
eastwoodsdustman said:
If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.
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Absolutely, but the problem is nobody seems to be able to have the conversation .. and let's be real that's fact anybody that moans about immigration of any kind Is immediately labelled .
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 1, 2024
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Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.
 
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Deleted member 162

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,110
skybluetony176 said:
Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.
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Think it had something to do with a Muslim turning up with a machete
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,111
skybluetony176 said:
Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.
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I read in a post online (so it must be true) that he the descendant of a Tutsi warlord, which is why i mentioned him wanting to commit atrocities against Hutus, perhaps.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,112
skybluetony176 said:
Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.
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I hope he dies an excruciating death.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,113
Evo1883 said:
Absolutely, but the problem is nobody seems to be able to have the conversation .. and let's be real that's fact anybody that moans about immigration of any kind Is immediately labelled .
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Not sure that's entirely right, Evo.

It's just the "stop the boats" and "send them all back" and "why is it only the men that come over" and "they're all Muslims and want Sharia law" stuff that winds people up

I am more than happy to discuss immigration sensibly. Loads of others on here too.

We all know we can't just let everyone in. We couldn't cope with it. It's all about how you address it and find a solution, because at the moment, there doesn't seem to be one.

I see on FB loads of people moaning that Labour stopped the Rwandan scheme and that's allowed thousands to just walk into our country.

The Rwandan thing was just a smokescreen and was never going to work or solve anything.

More than happy to have a civil, sensible conversation. Just need to get away from migrants are bad and Muslims are taking over Britain stuff.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,114
SkyblueCookie said:
Think it had something to do with a Muslim turning up with a machete
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That is nonsense. One English person turned up to the vigil (FFS) with a flick knife (i.e. offensive weapon) and was arrested.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,115
Why are we talking about the genocide thing as true?


Is there anything past someone on the internet saying that he said it when he was at school?
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,116
Otis said:
Not sure that's entirely right, Evo.

It's just the "stop the boats" and "send them all back" and "why is it only the men that come over" and "they're all Muslims and want Sharia law" stuff that winds people up

I am more than happy to discuss immigration sensibly. Loads of others on here too.

We all know we can't just let everyone in. We couldn't cope with it. It's all about how you address it and find a solution, because at the moment, there doesn't seem to be one.

I see on FB loads of people moaning that Labour stopped the Rwandan scheme and that's allowed thousands to just walk into our country.

The Rwandan thing was just a smokescreen and was never going to work or solve anything.

More than happy to have a civil, sensible conversation. Just need to get away from migrants are bad and Muslims are taking over Britain stuff.
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Time for a new thread?
 
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Deleted member 162

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  • Aug 1, 2024
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OffenhamSkyBlue said:
That is nonsense. One English person turned up to the vigil (FFS) with a flick knife (i.e. offensive weapon) and was arrested.
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The posts which flooded social media (and consequently caused the events Tony enquired about) were as follows:


He asked a question, I answered
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,118
SkyblueCookie said:
Think it had something to do with a Muslim turning up with a machete
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Ok, that makes it fine to smash up a town, attack the police and attack a mosque
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 1, 2024
  • #1,119
Deleted member 9744 said:
I think Deleted member 5849 made the point that it emboldens people when they see posts that reflect their views. Normally they would be too embarrassed to express them. And yes it is disappointing that there are actually some many.
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This is unfortunately where we are with social media echo chambers, throw in Russian and probably Chinese bots/teams whipping up fury with further disinformation and you can see why the West is in a bit of bother

Social media platforms and posters need to held to account with regard to the spreading of disinformation, especially if it’s intentional. Thats not going to be easy but a hell of a lot more needs to be done
 
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Deleted member 162

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  • Aug 1, 2024
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David O'Day said:
Ok, that makes it fine to smash up a town, attack the police and attack a mosque
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Does it? Bold take.
 
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