hill83
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He doesn’t tbf.
For me personally I identify as mixed race. But I’m equally as proud of my Scottish and Irish roots. I’m just not incessantly having to defend them to plonkers so it doesn’t come up as much.
But what i don't understand is why that person would still feel the need to identify as Jamaican, or even Black? As i said in my other post, i am white British so probably don't understand all the influences and ties to another culture (other than supporting Wales at rugby because my mum was Welsh). I would genuinely like to know, if anyone would care to share (even by DM).
Weren't the attackers in the Brianna Ghey murder named? They were only 16 weren't they?They were named at the end of the trial because the judge believed the public interest outweighed the need for them to retain anonymity. Their new identities were protected in perpetuity by injunction when they turned 18.
But what i don't understand is why that person would still feel the need to identify as Jamaican, or even Black? As i said in my other post, i am white British so probably don't understand all the influences and ties to another culture (other than supporting Wales at rugby because my mum was Welsh). I would genuinely like to know, if anyone would care to share (even by DM).
Brianna Ghey murder: Which other young killers have been named by courts?
The killers of James Bulger in 1993 are among those who have been named in the past.www.standard.co.uk
It’s inevitable that he will be named once pronounced guilty - unless a mental illness plea precludes that.Brianna Ghey murder: Which other young killers have been named by courts?
The killers of James Bulger in 1993 are among those who have been named in the past.www.standard.co.uk
Yeah. Sorry, I didn't clock that. Numpty.Not pre trial though
I've backed the views of you and @covcity4life many times with race issues on here, as I think whilst many can speculate and have empathy, only you know what personally feels like and whether you feel attacked by certain things that others dont see ... but Scottish? Ffs that's inexcusableHe doesn’t tbf.
For me personally I identify as mixed race. But I’m equally as proud of my Scottish and Irish roots. I’m just not incessantly having to defend them to plonkers so it doesn’t come up as much.
I have more in common with hill83 than I thought.I've backed the views of you and @covcity4life many times with race issues on here, as I think whilst many can speculate and have empathy, only you know what personally feels like and whether you feel attacked by certain things that others dont see ... but Scottish? Ffs that's inexcusable
Oh here we go, playing the Scottish cardI have more in common with hill83 than I thought.
Just to clarify, i wasn't suggesting they DID identify one way or the other. And, much as Kamala Harris, it is really nobody's business but their own! Thanks for your insightHe doesn’t tbf.
For me personally I identify as mixed race. But I’m equally as proud of my Scottish and Irish roots. I’m just not incessantly having to defend them to plonkers so it doesn’t come up as much.
I have more in common with hill83 than I thought.
First you liken me to "Norris" ,now you attack my nationality...no more diet recommendations from me you ThuntI've backed the views of you and @covcity4life many times with race issues on here, as I think whilst many can speculate and have empathy, only you know what personally feels like and whether you feel attacked by certain things that others dont see ... but Scottish? Ffs that's inexcusable
I suspect it would be more a case of his protection in whatever institution he ends up in.It’s inevitable that he will be named once pronounced guilty - unless a mental illness plea precludes that.
I called this a long time ago and used to get told I was playing the race card....I haven't commented on this aspect of the thread so far, but I have to say i have been quite surprised by the number of posters who are only now showing their true colours, when i considered SBT to be generally quite a reasonable, accepting, humane and liberal (not necessarily politically) group of people.
I've been to Oban a number of times, my brother!!!My nan was from Oban. We might be able to narrow it down further.
I've never been to Scotland.I've been to Oban a number of times, my brother!!!
You said earlier in the week (could've been on this thread) that you always try and learn a bit of the language when you go somewhere new, I'd give it a swerve as I think you'll struggle up there.I've never been to Scotland.
At the very least, that makes me a regionalist. Probably worse.
Probably a Chrysler Crossfire - or a can of Strongbow!
Oh the irony.notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.
He might have picked it up in store, do they sell them at Asda?Probably a Chrysler Crossfire - or a can of Strongbow!
When they were owned by Walmart you probably could have!He might have picked it up in store, do they sell them at Asda?
You're fucking thick, mate. An utter fool.
is that the best you can do, oh come on, at least put some effort in
It's piss easy tbh , c**t is used in every sentence longer than four words and fucking is a precursor to every nounYou said earlier in the week (could've been on this thread) that you always try and learn a bit of the language when you go somewhere new, I'd give it a swerve as I think you'll struggle up there.
Might not have put much thought into it, but it's accurate.is that the best you can do, oh come on, at least put some effort in
My Dad was from Glasgow. Me and Mrs Malc were in Oban a few weeks ago.My nan was from Oban. We might be able to narrow it down further.
He deserves no more protection than those little girls got.I suspect it would be more a case of his protection in whatever institution he ends up in.
I felt they had to.The killer has been named
Did the racism in the 70’s and 80’s not exist?I think someone mentioned it on here, possibly earlier in this thread, that they knew someone whose parents had come to Britain from India "back in the day" and were delighted to be here and to be accepted.
True, there were racist movements in the 60s (well done, Enoch!) after the initial, what you might call "mass" immigration from the Caribbean and the Indian sub-continent, but the people who came, for work opportunities, for a new start, or for refuge (e.g. from Idi Amin's Ugandan atrocities against the Indian people) really and truly integrated, albeit understandably wanting to retain some of their own culture (cf. the John Bull pub in Benidorm).
I lived in Leicester in the 80s and 90s, and it was a great example of multi-culturalism and a real "melting pot" of cultures enjoyed by all sides (even though you might describe the distribution of the faiths and races as being slightly "enclave" in their pattern), mainly first and second generation immigrants.
What i simply do not understand is why their kids and grandkids now consider themselves to have closer ties to their ancestral homeland and culture and to be less "British-Asian" or "Black British" than their parents did 30-40 years ago. I think this is causing increased division nowadays, particularly around gang culture.
Apologies if my being a privileged middle-aged white bloke has caused me to over-simplify the issues.
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