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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #666
David O'Day said:
He's not a migrant either, if we say all people with non "British" ancestors then there's a lot of folk in for a shock
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You can be a terrorist and be British and kill your own .The issue isn't necessarily about being a migrant, it's a state of mental well being and that is something that isn't fussy about where you're from .
Some British born citizens supported the IRA, David.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #667
Nick said:
OK so you can say because somebody was killed in America they should block off police stations with automatic rifles and cause trouble but if somebody says it about kids being killed in this country it's bad?

Was it every cop you wanted blocked off with automatic rifles that were guilty then?

It was very much encouraging violence, it wasn't far off the shite that posted about "hitting the streets" that got called out as nonsense.

Could change a couple of words in that post if you want? That was also there to discuss.
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You honestly can't tell the difference when someone looks to analyse a situation across the world and see what they could do against ingrained injustices compared to someone shouting for action to happen against minorities in this country now.

Honestly if you think that they're the same I'm happy to take a ban if it means you ban the racists going on at the moment.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #668
fatso said:
Possibly, but I have a nagging feeling that if he has a drug or mental health issue we'd of heard about it very quickly.


Just a hunch.
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Course he's got a fucking mental health issue, irrespective of any other motive he might have!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #669
Liquid Gold said:
You honestly can't tell the difference when someone looks to analyse a situation across the world and see what they could do against ingrained injustices compared to someone shouting for action to happen against minorities in this country now.

Honestly if you think that they're the same I'm happy to take a ban if it means you ban the racists going on at the moment.
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Like you said, just need to change a couple of words and make the spelling worse and you aren't far off people demanding that nonsense over here.

I also agree, calling for "hitting the streets" is nonsense and would do nothing in this situation other than cause trouble and be disrespectful to the victims. (Unless it was "hitting the streets" to show respect).
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #670
Nick said:
Like you said, just need to change a couple of words and make the spelling worse and you aren't far off people demanding that nonsense over here.

I also agree, calling for "hitting the streets" is nonsense and would do nothing in this situation other than cause trouble and be disrespectful to the victims. (Unless it was "hitting the streets" to show respect).
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Ok so we're just going to pretend to be dense and think two completely different things are the same then are we.

Crack on. I'm out.
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #671
Fucking breaks my heart, it truly does, how can someone do such a fucked up thing I've got a daughter same age. Can't imagine what there going thru, It's a cruel world.

 
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Diogenes

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #672
Bugsy said:
Fucking breaks my heart, it truly does, how can someone do such a fucked up thing I've got a daughter same age. Can't imagine what there going thru, It's a cruel world.

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This is just senseless.

I can't process how a human can be motivated to harm children.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #673
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Course he's got a fucking mental health issue, irrespective of any other motive he might have!
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I'm sure I have seen stuff about people getting high off their heads on drugs before committing things like this (not in anyway using drugs as an excuse, just that they do it just before)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #674
Bugsy said:
Fucking breaks my heart, it truly does, how can someone do such a fucked up thing I've got a daughter same age. Can't imagine what there going thru, It's a cruel world.

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Just kids that wanted to go and dance and have fun, it's fucking horrible Just cannot see how somebody could do it.

After seeing that I'm out of this thread as well None of my shite and 90% of others is relevant.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #675
Diogenes said:
This is just senseless.

I can't process how a human can be motivated to harm children.
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Mentally ill or not he can't do that to little girls it's terrible, Even as a shit human being U still can't do that it's despicable, one of if not the most outrageous crime u can do. I'm actually so down about this and seeing there beautiful faces. Fucking c**t
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #676
Bugsy said:
Fucking breaks my heart, it truly does, how can someone do such a fucked up thing I've got a daughter same age. Can't imagine what there going thru, It's a cruel world.

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Just seen this and the overwhelming feeling of sadness and helplessness is unbearable. Them poor little angels just having fun in the holidays with their friends, murdered by the most evil society has to offer

Sleep well beautiful little ones 🩷🩷🩷
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #677
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Course he's got a fucking mental health issue, irrespective of any other motive he might have!
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Including if his god told him to do it.
 

sylus

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #678
Odd how they can release images of the victims (bless them) but not of the attacker, i wonder why.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #679
sylus said:
Odd how they can release images of the victims (bless them) but not of the attacker, i wonder why.
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Sylus, it looks like he is a non muslim from Cardiff. Do you feel you should apologise?
 

AOM

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #680
sylus said:
Odd how they can release images of the victims (bless them) but not of the attacker, i wonder why.
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Give it a rest
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #681
sylus said:
Odd how they can release images of the victims (bless them) but not of the attacker, i wonder why.
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Give it a rest.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #682
sylus said:
Odd how they can release images of the victims (bless them) but not of the attacker, i wonder why.
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Purely his age I guess.
I must admit that when they don't release information or a photograph of the individual who commits such dreadful crimes I feel absolutely that it's a total injustice.
I felt the same when Jamie Bulger was murdered.
However , when I think about it , what good will it do me to know what he or they look like ? It's simply a natural human instinct to want a name and face to scream at all over again.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #683
Nick said:
The irony is that people have no issue when they are throwing out hate filled bile if it agrees with their political stance.

Surely in the first instance it's at least better to be constructive and say hold on, do you actually mean how that sounded?

I don't doubt that some will mean how things sound, others won't. That goes for both sides of arguments.

Tough things to see are images of the poor kids, gut wrenching .

Is logging into the internet and seeing some think cunts copy and paste either "Muslims" or "Tommy Robinson" actually tough for you?
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There is a world of difference between having a robust discussion about politics and allowing hate filled posts about certain minorities of the population.

And yes I find it a tough read to see racist posts on here and for them not to be removed. SBT has not posted since the last major debate on Muslims on here and I am not sure this is a comfortable place for some people from certain demographics. Are you ok with that?
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #684
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Including if his god told him to do it.
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And who would that be? Who do Welsh people pray to?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #685
As much as I am not a fan of Starmer, the number of comments I’ve seen blaming him for the attack, or even just blaming him for going to Southport so soon after, is a bit stunning.

The country hasn’t all of a sudden gone to shit, this has taken years and is set in deep.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #686
Look we all know that murders have only started since we allowed people in on boats
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #687
torchomatic said:
And who would that be? Who do Welsh people pray to?
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Exactly. Any voice in his head telling him to do it. Haven't named any particular God but if he's a Christian it might well be the same God I was singing hymns to at school.
Did you think I was insinuating it was a God from another religion ?
I didn't.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #688
Sky Blue Pete said:
Look we all know that murders have only started since we allowed people in on boats
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Bloody Vikings
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #689
So Rwanda is 88% Christian and 2% Muslim
Mmmm
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #690
torchomatic said:
Hitting the streets seems to be the idea, although I'm not sure what would entail.
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It would be a few upturned police cars & then see how many tvs and trainers you could loot.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #691
Sky Blue Pete said:
Look we all know that murders have only started since we allowed people in on boats
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We don't really allow them in. We have no choice . Anyway I'm sure you'd suggest that as a result the country is far more law abiding and safer then ever. Happy days.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #692
I think there has been too much Muslim this and migrant that and not enough discussion on the below. It's rife and across the country and across all divides, all cultures.




Something seriously needs to happen on knife crime.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #693
Otis said:
I think there has been too much Muslim this and migrant that and not enough discussion on this. It's rife and across the country and across all divides, all cultures.


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Something seriously needs to happen on knife crime.
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How the hell do we stop people buying these things online ?
 

Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #694
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
How the hell do we stop people buying these things online ?
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We can surely stop zombie knives at least.

Kitchen knives are a lot more problematic.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #695
Fucking hell those photos of those poor little girls

I have two girls, one is 3 and one is just 6 months. Looking at those photos is heartbreaking.

My 3 year old had a tantrum last night because she wanted a different duvet, I began to lose my temper at her having a meltdown over nothing and then suddenly thought about this tragedy and it sure puts things into perspective.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #696
Otis said:
I think there has been too much Muslim this and migrant that and not enough discussion on the below. It's rife and across the country and across all divides, all cultures.


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Something seriously needs to happen on knife crime.
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I don't think you can lump this in with the knife crime we're used to seeing.
I'm all for manatory custodial sentences for possesion but I doubt that would have made any difference in this case.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #697
clint van damme said:
I don't think you can lump this in with the knife crime we're used to seeing.
I'm all for manatory custodial sentences for possesion but I doubt that would have made any difference in this case.
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Just thank fuck we don’t have American style gun laws.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #698
PVA said:
Fucking hell those photos of those poor little girls

I have two girls, one is 3 and one is just 6 months. Looking at those photos is heartbreaking.

My 3 year old had a tantrum last night because she wanted a different duvet, I began to lose my temper at her having a meltdown over nothing and then suddenly thought about this tragedy and it sure puts things into perspective.
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Don't give in though.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #699
David O'Day said:
Sylus, it looks like he is a non muslim from Cardiff. Do you feel you should apologise?
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Will you when you threatened to kick my head in?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 30, 2024
  • #700
Grendel said:
Will you when you threatened to kick my head in?
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Go on @David O'Day bring a happy twist of sweetness to this darkest of threads
 
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