Who shares that sort of stuff wtfThere are, sadly some horrific images making their way around of some of the victims.
Just sickening.
I saw something earlier and it was fucking horrible. Its not something I can stomach. I can watch a lot of things but if it's children or animals, no.There are, sadly some horrific images making their way around of some of the victims.
Just sickening.
Was it Brian Clough?I saw something earlier and it was fucking horrible. Its not something I can stomach. I can watch a lot of things but if it's children or animals, no.
Saw a video that looks to be the suspect in a green hoodie and police but not sure if it's real.
Who shares that sort of stuff wtf
ThogdenWho, in that sort of situation would think to whip out their phone to take a few snaps? And to then pop them onto social media? What the fuck.
Don't think its being shared with glee, people are afraid that this will get swept under the carpet but plenty of people shouting them down to show respect to the parents - which is where I stand.Who shares that sort of stuff wtf
Who, in that sort of situation would think to whip out their phone to take a few snaps? And to then pop them onto social media? What the fuck.
The police have been very careful about how they have worded things. There's clearly damage limitation to manage the public reaction.IF the latest is true that it's someone born in the UK, to non UK parents then immigration has played a role in creating some of the conditions for this tragedy.
Clearly, there will be other reasons for him doing this, whether religious, personal, actual mental health episode etc. But, and again stress IF it's true, then the brutal reality is that if his parents werent allowed in then it wouldn't have happened.
We don't know the parents circumstances are - they could have been perfect candidates to come to the UK that would pass all checks apart from a blanket ban which isn't a realistic option.
A national conversation has to take place about who and under what circumstances people are allowed in without both sides hurling racist or woke at each other. I fear it's too late to turn the situation around but it's never too late to at least try to have an honest debate about the issue.
There’s a video ITV obtained which shows him pacing around outside the house in a green hoodie then the house getting raided later in the dayI saw something earlier and it was fucking horrible. Its not something I can stomach. I can watch a lot of things but if it's children or animals, no.
Saw a video that looks to be the suspect in a green hoodie and police but not sure if it's real.
There’s a video ITV obtained which shows him pacing around outside the house in a green hoodie then the house getting raided later in the day
The account is PaulBrandITV, truly sickening seeing the person pacing around knowing what they were about to doThat must be the one I saw. Is it on the ITV website?
Was it Brian Clough?
Thanks fun spongeClough never wore a green hoody so that failed
IF the latest is true that it's someone born in the UK, to non UK parents then immigration has played a role in creating some of the conditions for this tragedy.
Clearly, there will be other reasons for him doing this, whether religious, personal, actual mental health episode etc. But, and again stress IF it's true, then the brutal reality is that if his parents werent allowed in then it wouldn't have happened.
We don't know the parents circumstances are - they could have been perfect candidates to come to the UK that would pass all checks apart from a blanket ban which isn't a realistic option.
A national conversation has to take place about who and under what circumstances people are allowed in without both sides hurling racist or woke at each other. I fear it's too late to turn the situation around but it's never too late to at least try to have an honest debate about the issue.
This person was a sick fucker. His (or his parents) place of birth is irrelevant.Is it racist to say he was Rwandan? The comments about "being brown" are strangely being brought up by people shouting racism.
I guess more will come out over time however it's not unreasonable to question immigration, is it?
Is it racist to say he was Rwandan? The comments about "being brown" are strangely being brought up by people shouting racism.
I guess more will come out over time however it's not unreasonable to question immigration, is it?
Is it racist to say he was Rwandan? The comments about "being brown" are strangely being brought up by people shouting racism.
I guess more will come out over time however it's not unreasonable to question immigration, is it?
No it's not racist to say that.
It is racist to say his parents shouldn't have been allowed in the country because their son went on to be a murderer.
The stop the boats crew, unsurprisingly, went all out with the illegal immigrant stuff and when that turned out to be false they've started on his parents now.
He was born in Wales.
Spin it how you want if it makes you feel more comfortable.
More is bound to come out over time, I still can't see how it isn't a terror offence regardless of his background. He targeted and planned to attack young girls.
The post said this though?
"We don't know the parents circumstances are - they could have been perfect candidates to come to the UK that would pass all checks apart from a blanket ban which isn't a realistic option."
You were the one who brought skin colour up too, weird?
Exactly, and he says that immigration is partly to blame for this so he's basically insinuating we can't trust any immigrants.
Like I said, they went all in on him being an illegal immigrant and now they're having to double down.
Not sure how stating his place of birth is 'spin', it's fact. Where was he born, Nick?
Spin it how you want if it makes you feel more comfortable.
More is bound to come out over time, I still can't see how it isn't a terror offence regardless of his background. He targeted and planned to attack young girls.
If a dogs born in a stable it doesn't make it a horse.
This thread has been a real eye-opener for me.It makes it born in a stable though, which is the analogy to being born in the UK.
How far back until you’re British in your view? Clearly not one generation. Two? Ten? Fifty?
I don't know as the police haven’t released that, have they?
If he was born in the UK then he is British. His heritage is something else, isn't it?
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Terrorism needs to be in aid of a political cause. Otherwise it’s just sparkling psychopathy.
Not sure what part you aren’t getting. If he was born in the UK - he is a British citizen.I'm sure he's very British, yes. Let's wait and see?
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