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Southamptons first goal - players verdict, (2 Viewers)

  • Thread starter MalcSB
  • Start date Apr 11, 2024
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MalcSB

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #1

KWP “goal”

How the hell have opta awarded that goal to KWP when it clearly came off Adams? Backed Adams first goal scorer…
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Robinshio

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #2
because it came off Adams hand, and if the ref saw that it would be disallowed - so pretending it didnt touch him
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #3
So pissed off more hasn’t been made of the blatant handball by Adams for BOTH goals, are we just supposed to ignore these things nowadays? Added to the really dodgy penalty awards this week makes you think that reffing standards are being lowered year on year, meaning more shit refs coming through the system.
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #4
Fuck me. Even one of the players says "Che's hand".
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #5
Every week, we seem to be getting an absolute jobber. How is not apparent to any assessors or observers from the EFL that those officiating (for the most part) are basically doing it very poorly?!

Maybe it’s too much paperwork.
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #6
Standards have got worse. There's no denying it. The Pen for baggies yesterday. Heads have to roll surely.

Linespersons are getting worse too. Just don't have it in them to make a decision.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #7
It doesn't excuse the fucking shit performance or the first half though does it

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MalcSB

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #8
skyblue1991 said:
It doesn't excuse the fucking shit performance or the first half though does it

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No, but at the same time but for two handball goals we could have been level at half time, it could be argued we would have been 1-0 up. Again, it could be argued that despite the fucking shit performance, without the two handball goals we could Have won 1-0 thanks to Bidwell’s goal.
 
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SAJ

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #9
MalcSB said:
No, but at the same time but for two handball goals we could have been level at half time, it could be argued we would have been 1-0 up. Again, it could be argued that despite the fucking shit performance, without the two handball goals we could Have won 1-0 thanks to Bidwell’s goal.
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You could, then look at our first goal against Leeds the ball wasn’t anywhere near the quadrant when Eccles took the corner. For me, I would still prefer a ref to make a mistake rather than go through Simms goal at Wolverhampton where we had to wait for 5 minutes for a decision.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #10
the rules state 'the curvature of the ball has to be over the edge of the quadrant', doesn't have to be inside/on the line anymore.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #11
SAJ said:
You could, then look at our first goal against Leeds the ball wasn’t anywhere near the quadrant when Eccles took the corner. For me, I would still prefer a ref to make a mistake rather than go through Simms goal at Wolverhampton where we had to wait for 5 minutes for a decision.
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slightly different to putting the ball in with your arm
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #12
robbiethemole said:
the rules state 'the curvature of the ball has to be over the edge of the quadrant', doesn't have to be inside/on the line anymore.
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Eccles wasn’t even close
 
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Bidda

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #13
robbiethemole said:
So pissed off more hasn’t been made of the blatant handball by Adams for BOTH goals, are we just supposed to ignore these things nowadays? Added to the really dodgy penalty awards this week makes you think that reffing standards are being lowered year on year, meaning more shit refs coming through the system.
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MR doesn’t often comment publicly about referees’ performances but he must be aware of the poor standards and some of the decisions made against the team. Is he able, officially, to comment and what is the likelihood of him speaking to the officials before the game to make his point (about, for example, treatment given to his players (Sakamoto, Simms etc))?
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #14
Told you we would create problems for the FA and EFL if we get to the Cup final and playoffs. Last two games booking in the first two minutes to blunt our challenge!!!!....
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #15
SAJ said:
You could, then look at our first goal against Leeds the ball wasn’t anywhere near the quadrant when Eccles took the corner. For me, I would still prefer a ref to make a mistake rather than go through Simms goal at Wolverhampton where we had to wait for 5 minutes for a decision.
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Are you saying it was outside the limits?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #16
robbiethemole said:
So pissed off more hasn’t been made of the blatant handball by Adams for BOTH goals, are we just supposed to ignore these things nowadays? Added to the really dodgy penalty awards this week makes you think that reffing standards are being lowered year on year, meaning more shit refs coming through the system.
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In fairness I can understand Robins not making a fuss because

A. You get in trouble got it: and

B. We didn't play well and shouldn't make excuses for the defeat

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stupot07

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  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #17
I'm not entirely sure the ref had a clear view of the first goal, it looks was though at least 3 players players are blocking his view.

Not a great decision, but neither was the penalty decision.

We were crap and didn't deserve anything from the game. We move on.


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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2024
  • #18
Both goals should have been disallowed by letter of the law, and would have been with VAR. We didn't deserve anything out of the game though.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #19
Referee had a stinker as per and we had a stinker too
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #20
stevefloyd said:
Referee had a stinker as per and we had a stinker too
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The LOCAL referee had a stinker
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #21
stupot07 said:
I'm not entirely sure the ref had a clear view of the first goal, it looks was though at least 3 players players are blocking his view.

Not a great decision, but neither was the penalty decision.

We were crap and didn't deserve anything from the game. We move on.


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Th linesman was dead in line and should have been intent on Adams and his positioning. However, I do tend to forget that they don’t actually do anything other than raise their flag after the ref has indicated who the throw in has been awarded to.
 

Ricketts

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #22
The referee and officials were shocking and got lots of things wrong, but I would still rather have this than VAR.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #23
fernandopartridge said:
In fairness I can understand Robins not making a fuss because

A. You get in trouble got it: and

B. We didn't play well and shouldn't make excuses for the defeat

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Wolves manager would have
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #24
mark82 said:
Both goals should have been disallowed by letter of the law, and would have been with VAR. We didn't deserve anything out of the game though.
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Had the letter of the law been applied, our appalling display would have resulted in a 1-0 win away to one of the best sides in the league.
 

skybluecam

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #25
Warwickhunt said:
Told you we would create problems for the FA and EFL if we get to the Cup final and playoffs. Last two games booking in the first two minutes to blunt our challenge!!!!....
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Not one for conspiracies but Kitching’s yellow at Hudds was baffling to say the least.
 

mmttww

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  • Apr 12, 2024
  • #26
Londonccfcfan said:
Linespersons are getting worse too. Just don't have it in them to make a decision.
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This drives me insane! Watching them wait for the ref to give a signal for a throw in before copying it with their flag might be the most pathetic thing you can witness on a football pitch. Might as well go Sunday League and have someone from each bench run the line. At least we'd get some LOLs!
 
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SAJ

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  • Apr 13, 2024
  • #27
robbiethemole said:
the rules state 'the curvature of the ball has to be over the edge of the quadrant', doesn't have to be inside/on the line anymore.
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Well aware of what the rules say. But unless we changed the ball to an egg it’s well outside the quadrant.
 
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SAJ

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  • Apr 13, 2024
  • #28
Robinshio said:
slightly different to putting the ball in with your arm
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Why is it? Both goals would have been ruled out by VAR.
 
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SAJ

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  • Apr 13, 2024
  • #29
wingy said:
Are you saying it was outside the limits?
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Yes well outside the limits.
 
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