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rupert_bear · Sep 28, 2014

....are a club I always use as a barometer for us, similar status over the years, similar fan base, similar ground, similar position to us just three seasons ago, sell plenty of players. So considering where they where three years ago does that fill us with hope we can emulate them one day or is that pie in the sky and what would be needed to change to come somewhere near them ?, change of owners, change of policy, change of manager ? We are trying to bring players through our youth system as they do, but I have to say the quality of there youngsters is outstanding.

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2014

rupert_bear said:
....are a club I always use as a barometer for us, similar status over the years, similar fan base, similar ground, similar position to us just three seasons ago, sell plenty of players. So considering where they where three years ago does that fill us with hope we can emulate them one day or is that pie in the sky and what would be needed to change to come somewhere near them ?, change of owners, change of policy, change of manager ? We are trying to bring players through our youth system as they do, but I have to say the quality of there youngsters is outstanding.

I wouldnt say we have a similar fanbase to southampton these days , even in league 1 they were getting 20 thousand or so .
we are more in line with preston in terms of home support these days

pusbccfc · Sep 28, 2014

CraigSBA said:
I wouldnt say we have a similar fanbase to southampton these days , even in league 1 they were getting 20 thousand or so .
we are more in line with preston in terms of home support these days

They were getting 20,000 because they were going up.
If we were top 2 in January we'd be getting them crowds.

Sterling Archer · Sep 28, 2014

Considering they had a wealthy backer, I'm not sure we are similar to when they were in L1.

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2014

pusbccfc said:
They were getting 20,000 because they were going up.
If we were top 2 in January we'd be getting them crowds.

I highly doubt it

rupert_bear · Sep 28, 2014

Thought sisu were wealthy

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Sep 28, 2014

I bet their fans are furious about them turning down Sisus advances. Look where they could have been.

stupot07 · Sep 28, 2014

pusbccfc said:
They were getting 20,000 because they were going up.
If we were top 2 in January we'd be getting them crowds.

They averaged 20k in their first season in league one (2009/10) when they finished 7th. In fact they got 20k for the season opener vs millwall so nothing to do with going up.

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Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2014

Why do our fans not see we just have poor support for the size of the club and city

pusbccfc · Sep 28, 2014

stupot07 said:
They averaged 20k in their first season in league one (2009/10) when they finished 7th. In fact they got 20k for the season opener vs millwall so nothing to do with going up.

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When will we finish 7th though?

Yes it's a far bigger average, but they haven't had the crap we've had to put up with.

rupert_bear · Sep 28, 2014

Our fan base has been knocked over years of well crap to be honest and lack of hope. There is potential here to emulate a Southampton. Decent crowds are earned, win games, challenge at the right end of the division, couple of star names to hang onto and playing decent watchable football, not doing any of that lot yet.

The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

pusbccfc said:
When will we finish 7th though?

Yes it's a far bigger average, but they haven't had the crap we've had to put up with.

Stupot doesn't believe in that myth mate. Wouldn't bother wasting your typing fingers. He's very "it's his way or no way"

stupot07 · Sep 28, 2014

The Lurker said:
Stupot doesn't believe in that myth mate. Wouldn't bother wasting your typing fingers. He's very "it's his way or no way"

No more so than any other person on here.

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KersleyDigs · Sep 28, 2014

We would have 20k home fans in L1if we were taken over by a billionaire and had Lallana, Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Puncheon in the squad!!!

Saints got a fresh start. Until we do, you cannot make comparison

stupot07 · Sep 28, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
We would have 20k home fans in L1if we were taken over by a billionaire and had Lallana, Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Puncheon in the squad!!!

Saints got a fresh start. Until we do, you cannot make comparison

Most of them were nobodies at the time. Yes they paid a fair whack for lambert but he hadn't played above league one at that time. Still got 20k to their first game.

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skybluedan · Sep 28, 2014

rupert_bear said:
Our fan base has been knocked over years of well crap to be honest and lack of hope. There is potential here to emulate a Southampton. Decent crowds are earned, win games, challenge at the right end of the division, couple of star names to hang onto and playing decent watchable football, not doing any of that lot yet.

Our fan base is shit mate, nobody gives a fuck you have your diehards who is I'll always be there, but it has bee the same for years,we will never challenge with the utter tripe we have as a squad,so no decent football to try and get the fans there.... And a couple of star names to hang onto mate we will never have a star name

pusbccfc · Sep 28, 2014

stupot07 said:
Most of them were nobodies at the time. Yes they paid a fair whack for lambert but he hadn't played above league one at that time. Still got 20k to their first game.

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They got crowds as low as 12/13k in the season before in the championship.

The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

stupot07 said:
No more so than any other person on here.

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I see you've swerved the thread and my posts about Cov being the most unsuccessful team in the past 15 years and it being a contributing factor in regards to our poor attendance. Your usually the man with stats and facts.

rupert_bear · Sep 28, 2014

skybluedan said:
Our fan base is shit mate, nobody gives a fuck you have your diehards who is I'll always be there, but it has bee the same for years,we will never challenge with the utter tripe we have as a squad,so no decent football to try and get the fans there.... And a couple of star names to hang onto mate we will never have a star name

Agree with most of that but we had a chance of a couple of star names to hang our hats on last season but sold them as always and is what this lot in charge will always do.

SkyBlueSid · Sep 28, 2014

CraigSBA said:
Why do our fans not see we just have poor support for the size of the club and city

How can it be surprising that our support is poor in relation to the size if the City? We have been historically poor for over 40 years. We were getting crowds of 30000+ the season we qualified for Europe. The potential has always been there, but the team has consistently failed to deliver since then. It would be difficult to identify another club with so little to shout about over all those years.

Southampton is a fair comparison as they have a similar catchment area to us. We have similar grounds too, although their old ground was a dump compared to Highfield Road. It is ridiculous to blame the supporters for the club's chronic failure. Fans turn up when there is something worth watching, apart from the minority of diehards who will watch a team no matter how bad. I have no doubt that if we had a team genuinely challenging for promotion our crowds would be about 18-20000. The current team is a million miles away from that.

stupot07 · Sep 28, 2014

The Lurker said:
I see you've swerved the thread and my posts about Cov being the most unsuccessful team in the past 15 years and it being a contributing factor in regards to our poor attendance. Your usually the man with stats and facts.

Now you've extended it from 13 to 15 years. How can we have been the most unsuccessful team in the football league, when we have never played and finished bottom in league two? Getting promoted from the conference is greater than playing in the championship and league one?

I'm happier with using the last 13 years, than the 45 years nonsense,

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Grendel · Sep 28, 2014

The Lurker said:
I see you've swerved the thread and my posts about Cov being the most unsuccessful team in the past 15 years and it being a contributing factor in regards to our poor attendance. Your usually the man with stats and facts.

I am sure you are right. Fans of Luton bury Rochdale Shrewsbury etc must all think thank god we don't support them.

The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

stupot07 said:
Now you've extended it from 13 to 15 years. How can we have been the most unsuccessful team in the football league, when we have never played and finished bottom in league two? Getting promoted from the conference is greater than playing in the championship and league one?

I'm happier with using the last 13 years, than the 45 years nonsense,

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You really are clutching at straws now. What is your primary reason to watch the city? Is it to see us win or watch good football? For me it's to see us win. I'd gladly take winning in league 2 or conference on a weekly basis then watching yesterday's debacle. If you can't grasp that year on year we witness rubbish football along with mediocre results isn't affecting attendances then you don't live in the real world.

The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

Grendel said:
I am sure you are right. Fans of Luton bury Rochdale Shrewsbury etc must all think thank god we don't support them.

All have seen/enjoyed some success over recent years. Same can't be said for us. Poor example

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 28, 2014

We've been remarkably successful compared to most teams.

We do like to play the victim though.

KersleyDigs · Sep 28, 2014

pusbccfc said:
They got crowds as low as 12/13k in the season before in the championship.

I went to many Saints games in L1. They certainly were not getting 20k. When they were flying towards promotion from the championship diehard fans sang to the others 'where were you when we were shit?!'

The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
We've been remarkably successful compared to most teams.

We do like to play the victim though.

How do you work that out?

stupot07 · Sep 28, 2014

The Lurker said:
You really are clutching at straws now. What is your primary reason to watch the city? Is it to see us win or watch good football? For me it's to see us win. I'd gladly take winning in league 2 or conference on a weekly basis then watching yesterday's debacle. If you can't grasp that year on year we witness rubbish football along with mediocre results isn't affecting attendances then you don't live in the real world.

I go because I love the club and it's great bonding time to have with my grandad. If I wanted to winning or entertaining football I'd have stopped getting a ST years ago and started support Chelsea or Man U.

We were winning games under robins and the crowds didn't particular go up.

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The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

stupot07 said:
I go because I love the club and it's great bonding time to have with my grandad. If I wanted to winning or entertaining football I'd have stopped getting a ST years ago and started support Chelsea or Man U.

We were winning games under robins and the crowds didn't particular go up.

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I agree I love the camaraderie with my friends on match day but primary I go to watch good football and see us win as I say is the reason most go so when we don't get that then you feel annoyed and pissed off. I've been 8 games this season home and away and I'd say I haven't seen anything remotely entertaining this season despite Pressley banging on about entertaining football.

In my eyes, ccfc crowds will drop while 1) the football continues to be poor and 2) sisu are in charge and lack of investment is put into the football team rather then court fees

The Lurker · Sep 28, 2014

One more point to the robins comment. We played PNE during the robins era and we attracted 12,200 that day. So 2,000 fans lost in 2 years. Might not sound much but that's almost 25% fan base lost. Very worrying

ccfcway · Sep 28, 2014

stupot07 said:
They averaged 20k in their first season in league one (2009/10) when they finished 7th.

Cov have never finished 7th in my lifetime, let alone get promoted

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