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Match Thread Southampton - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 20th Dec (2 Viewers)

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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,856
shmmeee said:
There is no reason not to get a flu vaccine. Or any other vaccine. You’ve just had your brain cooked on the Internet. You are not a doctor cos you scrolled YouTube on the toilet.
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Idiotic comment. I told you earlier in the thread that I take the vaccines because I’m immuneo-compromised. Hence I got the COVID jabs on the 2nd/3rd wave and entitled to free flu jabs yearly. This year, I opted not to take the jab because I’d already got the flu around October.

If you want to pay for vaccine every year, that’s your personal choice but most younger people don’t need it because if they do get, they’ll be alright. The data is showing it’s the decrease in vaccine take up amongst over-50s is driving the issues in the NHS

Manchester_sky_blue said:
NHS trusts don't externally publish statistics of which staff are vaccinated and which aren't so any figures you've seen are guess work and nothing more.

You also can't have the full flu vaccine as a baby/child.

I wasn't commenting about freedom of choice, just about your assertion that non immuno-compromised people don't need to be vaccinated which is utterly wrong.
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These are collated surveys published on Gov.uk fyi. Not really ‘guess work’ but there’s obviously a margin for error. What the data does show is that take up is decreasing year on year in consecutive years.
 
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Bigelvesy

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,857
Brau has a song?
Gotta think he starts next game. Bidwell is woeful
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,858
Johnnythespider said:
Perhaps we should start playing on Monday morning
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,859
steve101 said:
I assume when Grimes went down, it was cramp. He and Rushworth must be out most crucial players right now.
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Glad he came through that as in the slow motion replay I thought he had injured his ankle
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,860
Bigelvesy said:
Brau has a song?
Gotta think he starts next game. Bidwell is woeful
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Bidders is so static these days.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,861
Thought Bidwell did fine tbh - just needed him to stand up their attackers and head stuff away really. It was a good decision to move to a back 5, as he would have been murdered at LB, but he did well at LCB, and it suited Brau as well. Arguably we should have done it as soon as Dasilva went off.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,862
Macca said:
Very happy with today. Deny Southampton 3 points, dealt with injuries and just look like a team that rises to every challenge. If it wasn't for JDS brain fuck would gave been sitting 13 points clear tonight. Let him off though he has been great and we all gave a daft moment in us. 39 points from 24 games required I reckon
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13 points? How do you work that out?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,863
RoboCCFC90 said:
Totally agree. I think the whole team played really well, I was disappointed, again, with Haji, but maybe I’m expecting too much of him.
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No, Haji bottled the counter attack where the penalty shout happened. His first touch was so poor, it made the GK favourite and meant the penalty wasn’t given.

Ngl, Simms should be reinstated to the starting eleven. Haji hasn’t scored since October and needs to earn his spot back imo.

Lampard got all his subs and tactics right today. Being super harsh, probably should’ve went 3 atb earlier but he adapted quickly after the equaliser. Allen gave us legs in the middle, same with KKH when we needed it, Brau and Bidwell defended well and Simms did alright defensively.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,864
RoboCCFC90 said:
Totally agree. I think the whole team played really well, I was disappointed, again, with Haji, but maybe I’m expecting too much of him.
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He has made some great plays imo.
Not been rewarded. Ref last week pen , this week pen.
Preston down to 10 men as a result of his break.
Keep backing Haji.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,865
SBT said:
Thought Bidwell did fine tbh - just needed him to stand up their attackers and head stuff away really. It was a good decision to move to a back 5, as he would have been murdered at LB, but he did well at LCB, and it suited Brau as well. Arguably we should have done it as soon as Dasilva went off.
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Agreed but hindsight is 20:20 and feel like EMC was playing well so initially felt it was a strange decision to take him off.

Had we went 2-1 down we’d have been in a bad spot because we did not have the means to pinch a goal. Which shows that we need reinforcement in Jan.

Probably our best point this season and we coped so well with the absences.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,866
Turns out we gained a point on 2nd and lost a point on 3rd …. 11 points now clear of 3rd
 
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TewkesburySkyBlue

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,867
I wonder if the players all had the flu jab?
If not why not but what do I know?
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,868
PNE are away for Boxing Day & the 29th, we’ll extend our lead on them. It depends on whether Millwall, Hull and Ipswich pull points back.

The 29th is shaping up to be a huge game.
 

RoboCCFC90

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,869
CovValleyBoy said:
He has made some great plays imo.
Not been rewarded. Ref last week pen , this week pen.
Preston down to 10 men as a result of his break.
Keep backing Haji.
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Yeah I think it’s good to see this side of it to remind me of perspective, I will concede at this point I’m just frustrated he didn’t seem to run enough today and has missed too many quality chances recently. I just hope the tide turns in terms of his goal conversion.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,870
Mucca Mad Boys said:
PNE are away for Boxing Day & the 29th, we’ll extend our lead on them. It depends on whether Millwall, Hull and Ipswich pull points back.

The 29th is shaping up to be a huge game.
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They are all huge for one reason or another
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,871
Disappointed with Dasilva’s unnecessary challenge. Important player. 11v11 we’d be sitting 8 points clear, no doubt. Another poor show from Wright.
 

SkyBlueSi

New Member
  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,872
Have to admit that I was nervous when I saw the starting line up, concerned when JDS was sent off and gave up hope when KKH came on, but to be fair the boys dug in and showed a hell off a lot of spirit. That point could be crucial come the end of the season.
 

CovveeBreak

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,873
JDS’s challenge was totally a red, but you can see what he’s trying to do. He thinks he will get to the ball way earlier and has the foot raised to anticipate the bounce. His leg was bent, not some straight leg lunge. Anyway, he’s forgiven because he’s been immense this season.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,874
Oh my days what result in end. Outstanding to man 1st half, then outstanding in different ways 2nd.

it’s a pen on haji, you can’t fall on him like that.

bad tackle by JdS, going to miss him.

lati, brau, bidders and wolf - take a bow. What a team.

on we go.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,875
Wright as per usual is waiting for the challenge, he could’ve just took the shot.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,876
CovveeBreak said:
JDS’s challenge was totally a red, but you can see what he’s trying to do. He thinks he will get to the ball way earlier and has the foot raised to anticipate the bounce. His leg was bent, not some straight leg lunge. Anyway, he’s forgiven because he’s been immense this season.
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It's one of those. Poor challenge but they happen.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,877
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Idiotic comment. I told you earlier in the thread that I take the vaccines because I’m immuneo-compromised. Hence I got the COVID jabs on the 2nd/3rd wave and entitled to free flu jabs yearly. This year, I opted not to take the jab because I’d already got the flu around October.

If you want to pay for vaccine every year, that’s your personal choice but most younger people don’t need it because if they do get, they’ll be alright. The data is showing it’s the decrease in vaccine take up amongst over-50s is driving the issues in the NHS



These are collated surveys published on Gov.uk fyi. Not really ‘guess work’ but there’s obviously a margin for error. What the data does show is that take up is decreasing year on year in consecutive years.
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Infection Does Not Equal Full Immunity

Having the flu in October doesn't necessarily protect you for the rest of the season because the "flu" isn't one virus; it’s a group. If you caught Influenza A in October, you are still vulnerable to Influenza B. The annual vaccine is quadrivalent, meaning it’s designed to protect against the four most likely strains circulating that year.
Waning Immunity is also a big problem, especially for those who are immunocompromised, natural immunity from an infection can be short-lived compared to the broader "prime" the vaccine provides.

The "Younger People are Fine" thing is a total myth. While younger people are less likely to die from the flu, the argument that they don't need it overlooks two factors:

Transmission: Healthy young people are the primary Vectors (spreaders). By getting vaccinated, they create a shield around vulnerable people (like yourself) who might not have a strong immune response to the jab.
Complications: Even in healthy adults, the flu can trigger pneumonia, myocarditis (heart inflammation), or long flu symptoms.

NHS Pressures are a collective Issue.
While the over-50s demographic is the most high-risk group for hospitalization, NHS pressures aren't driven by just one age group.
When vaccine uptake drops among the young, the virus circulates more freely in the community. This inevitably reaches the elderly and vulnerable, regardless of how many boosters they take. A surge in flu cases among any age group leads to more GP appointments, more A&E visits, and more staff sickness within the NHS itself, which cripples the system's ability to function.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,878
Tommo1993 said:
Wright as per usual is waiting for the challenge, he could’ve just took the shot.
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Utter bollox
 
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baldy

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,879
TewkesburySkyBlue said:
I wonder if the players all had the flu jab?
If not why not but what do I know?
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They might not want the jab - simple
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,880
Just got.back. took an hour to get out of Southampton but I dont care. What a game today. So proud of 'em.

I saw Frank fist pumping towards their fans and thought he'd lost his mind! Brilliant passion.

I reckon we'll go up now. A season defining game.
 
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baldy

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,881
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Infection Does Not Equal Full Immunity

Having the flu in October doesn't necessarily protect you for the rest of the season because the "flu" isn't one virus; it’s a group. If you caught Influenza A in October, you are still vulnerable to Influenza B. The annual vaccine is quadrivalent, meaning it’s designed to protect against the four most likely strains circulating that year.
Waning Immunity is also a big problem, especially for those who are immunocompromised, natural immunity from an infection can be short-lived compared to the broader "prime" the vaccine provides.

The "Younger People are Fine" thing is a total myth. While younger people are less likely to die from the flu, the argument that they don't need it overlooks two factors:

Transmission: Healthy young people are the primary Vectors (spreaders). By getting vaccinated, they create a shield around vulnerable people (like yourself) who might not have a strong immune response to the jab.
Complications: Even in healthy adults, the flu can trigger pneumonia, myocarditis (heart inflammation), or long flu symptoms.

NHS Pressures are a collective Issue.
While the over-50s demographic is the most high-risk group for hospitalization, NHS pressures aren't driven by just one age group.
When vaccine uptake drops among the young, the virus circulates more freely in the community. This inevitably reaches the elderly and vulnerable, regardless of how many boosters they take. A surge in flu cases among any age group leads to more GP appointments, more A&E visits, and more staff sickness within the NHS itself, which cripples the system's ability to function.
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I don't know why morons are going to hospital with the flu anyway - just stay at home & keep warm etc - I wouldn't even think about going to the hospital,absolutely no need
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,882
Has anyone got link to Lampards Sky Sports interview? Does not seem to be on YouTube!
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,883
How big is that Ipswich game on the 29th now?
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,884
baldy said:
I don't know why morons are going to hospital with the flu anyway - just stay at home & keep warm etc - I wouldn't even think about going to the hospital,absolutely no need
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Then you have no understanding of what flu actually is or how serious it can be.
 
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fatso

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,885
baldy said:
They might not want the jab - simple
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Or they might think that as the hospitals are so full of vaccinated patients its probably not worth bothering with as it appears to of done fuck all for them.

Ever noticed how the more flu vaccines there are, the more pandemics there seems to be?
 
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baldy

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,886
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Then you have no understanding of what flu actually is or how serious it can be.
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Nonsense - just stay at home,drink fluids & keep warm - it's always been that way
 
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baldy

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,887
fatso said:
Or they might think that as the hospitals are so full of vaccinated patients its probably not worth bothering with as it appears to of done fuck all for them.
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Doubt it
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,888
Great, yet more anti-vaccine crap.
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,889
fatso said:
Or they might think that as the hospitals are so full of vaccinated patients its probably not worth bothering with as it appears to of done fuck all for them.

Ever noticed how the more flu vaccines there are, the more pandemics there seems to be?
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No - stop overthinking it
 
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Alex1987

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  • Dec 20, 2025
  • #1,890
Was Grimes injured? Seemed odd he was down so long?
 
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