Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

SOMETHING ABOUT JR D (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter wingy
  • Start date Dec 1, 2016
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 7
  • 8
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11
  • 12
  • 13
Next
First Prev 9 of 13 Next Last

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #281
Nick said:
It would depend on the move and where it was to surely?

I don't get your post? Do you think they are going to ask fans to stump up?
Click to expand...
It's a self sufficient club, the fans fund everything don't they?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #282
skybluebeduff said:
It's a self sufficient club, the fans fund everything don't they?
Click to expand...

I'm still not following what point you are trying to make? If Wasps don't let us stay there after 2018, then we need to find somewhere else to play.

You are making it sound like they will be demanding the fans cough up into a bucket for it?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #283
skybluebeduff said:
It's a self sufficient club, the fans fund everything don't they?
Click to expand...

I'm fairly sure the club has other income streams apart from us fans...
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #284
I would be surprised if we end up moving out of the Ricoh in 2018

-The club cant afford anywhere else
- the national headlines of Wasps "forcing" CCFC out would not be welcome to the Rugby club or Council.
- Fisher seems to think that the day renting will be extended

So long as CCFC are not costing Wasps money I think we will still be there in 2019
 
Reactions: Iancro, Captain Dart, MusicDating and 2 others

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #285
Nick said:
I'm still not following what point you are trying to make? If Wasps don't let us stay there after 2018, then we need to find somewhere else to play.

You are making it sound like they will be demanding the fans cough up into a bucket for it?
Click to expand...
How can you not see the point, refer to OSB58's posts recently, then look at the news yesterday about taking our landlords to court, because of SISU the likely hood of us being homeless in 2018 now looks a certainty, but they don't fund the club, so fans will be paying for a move all because of the pathetic owners, no-one can be happy with that surely?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #286
oldskyblue58 said:
I would be surprised if we end up moving out of the Ricoh in 2018

-The club cant afford anywhere else
- the national headlines of Wasps "forcing" CCFC out would not be welcome to the Rugby club or Council.
- Fisher seems to think that the day renting will be extended

So long as CCFC are not costing Wasps money I think we will still be there in 2019
Click to expand...
They have said they won't negotiate whilst court cases are lingering haven't they? If Fisher thinks anything it's 50/50 on being truthful or bullshit, what's he ever said that's factual?

Still waiting on his potential sites and stadium plans..
 
Last edited: Dec 2, 2016

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #287
oldskyblue58 said:
I would be surprised if we end up moving out of the Ricoh in 2018

-The club cant afford anywhere else
- the national headlines of Wasps "forcing" CCFC out would not be welcome to the Rugby club or Council.
- Fisher seems to think that the day renting will be extended

So long as CCFC are not costing Wasps money I think we will still be there in 2019
Click to expand...

Agreed. I think JR2 will come to a quicker conclusion, one way or another, after yesterdays decision. It's just how quickly after that they get round the table and how sheepish SISU are when they go back to Wasps to discuss the extension.

My heart says that they'll get something sorted by the end of this season. My head says it'll go down to the wire and an extension agreement will be signed in the days/weeks before the existing agreement ends, thus keeping Wasps in the driving seat.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #288
MusicDating said:
I'm fairly sure the club has other income streams apart from us fans...
Click to expand...
check the accounts.. they don't equate to much at all, it's fan money this club is heavily reliant on.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #289
torchomatic said:
"I want SISU to stay"
Click to expand...

torchomatic said:
"I will be gutted if SISU leave".
Click to expand...

I knew it!
 
Reactions: Captain Dart, Brylowes, torchomatic and 1 other person

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #290
skybluebeduff said:
How can you not see the point, refer to OSB58's posts recently, then look at the news yesterday about taking our landlords to court, because of SISU the likely hood of us being homeless in 2018 now looks a certainty, but they don't fund the club, so fans will be paying for a move all because of the pathetic owners, no-one can be happy with that surely?
Click to expand...

It's the council going to court isn't it?

Still, it depends if you want to believe the spin Wasps are putting out.

Looks like you are trying to twist around the "if people want to starve the club, they cant moan about the club being starved" points being raised. It isn't really working though.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #291
skybluebeduff said:
They have said they won't negotiate whilst court cases are lingering haven't they? If Fisher thinks anything it's 50/50 on being truthful or bullshit, what's he ever said that's factual?
Click to expand...
Wasps said the negotiations on a long term deal are on hold.
If the legal noise continues with JR2 they will just give a take it or leave it deal in the interim. Say, £400K ?
The best thing for us is to get on with negotiating a long term deal. Say, leave it as it is in league 1 with incremental increases as we head up the leagues ?
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #292
Sky Blue Kid said:
"Rip his posts up"! Lmfao... He left a one word response to a post that wasn't posted to him..."TWAT" "CUNTS"
I could post "The Sky is Blue" and he'd leave a one word comment "Bollocks", "Shit", etc. He attacks anyone with a differing view to his. Hence the "Nomark" nickname. Now YOU move on!
Click to expand...

Thought you were describing yourself there.
 
Last edited: Dec 2, 2016

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #293
italiahorse said:
Wasps said the negotiations on a long term deal are on hold.
If the legal noise continues with JR2 they will just give a take it or leave it deal in the interim. Say, £400K ?
The best thing for us is to get on with negotiating a long term deal. Say, leave it as it is in league 1 with incremental increases as we head up the leagues ?
Click to expand...
Everything I've said is hypothetical, but the being homeless part is still looking higher in percentage than a new deal to remain at The Ricoh, no evidence to suggest otherwise.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #294
Nick said:
Looks like you are trying to twist around the "if people want to starve the club, they cant moan about the club being starved" points being raised. It isn't really working though.
Click to expand...

What makes you think people are starving the club?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #295
Nick said:
It's the council going to court isn't it?

Still, it depends if you want to believe the spin Wasps are putting out.

Looks like you are trying to twist around the "if people want to starve the club, they cant moan about the club being starved" points being raised. It isn't really working though.
Click to expand...
I pay no attention to spin, just like you I want whats right for us (the club). Thus far, it isn't looking good is it?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #296
shmmeee said:
What makes you think people are starving the club?
Click to expand...
NOPM is the reason why we are where we are according to him and Grendel.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #297
shmmeee said:
What makes you think people are starving the club?
Click to expand...

The whole NOPM thing.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #298
Sky Blue Kid said:
"Rip his posts up"! Lmfao... He left a one word response to a post that wasn't posted to him..."TWAT" "CUNTS"
I could post "The Sky is Blue" and he'd leave a one word comment "Bollocks", "Shit", etc. He attacks anyone with a differing view to his. Hence the "Nomark" nickname. Now YOU move on!
Click to expand...
Haha, I take it you don't know the meaning of irony. You angry man.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: Moff

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #299
skybluebeduff said:
NOPM is the reason why we are where we are according to him and Grendel.
Click to expand...

Yet again, you don't seem to be saying what was actually said.

I said if people shout NOPM, they can't really moan about budgets being cut.

It's a long way from "everything is their fault" that you keep trying to say.
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #300
italiahorse said:
Wasps said the negotiations on a long term deal are on hold.
If the legal noise continues with JR2 they will just give a take it or leave it deal in the interim. Say, £400K ?
The best thing for us is to get on with negotiating a long term deal. Say, leave it as it is in league 1 with incremental increases as we head up the leagues ?
Click to expand...

Head up the leagues? One minute you predict Armageddon the next we will be on a march up the leagues. Laughable.

It seems to me you are suggesting you want both SISU and the Ricoh to have long term ties to the club.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #301
Nick said:
The whole NOPM thing.
Click to expand...

What whole NOPM thing?

What evidence is there for it?

I maintain it doesn't exist. There's a few whining minnies who would probably turn up to a big game, but it's had no noticeable impact on our gates.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #302
shmmeee said:
What whole NOPM thing?

What evidence is there for it?

I maintain it doesn't exist. There's a few whining minnies who would probably turn up to a big game, but it's had no noticeable impact on our gates.
Click to expand...

Evidence is people like beduff, Bob and people who are saying to boycott to starve the club. A world away from Dave who plays golf on a Saturday now.
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #303
shmmeee said:
What makes you think people are starving the club?
Click to expand...
What's the point of NOPM if not to starve the club?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #304
Nick said:
Evidence is people like beduff, Bob and people who are saying to boycott to starve the club. A world away from Dave who plays golf on a Saturday now.
Click to expand...
Been to 10 aways games thus far, hardly boycotting is it, you think NOPM means to not watch the club at all, laughable.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #305
ceetee said:
What's the point of NOPM if not to starve the club?
Click to expand...
SISU are staving the club, what's the difference to their NOPM?
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #306
Nick said:
Evidence is people like beduff, Bob and people who are saying to boycott to starve the club. A world away from Dave who plays golf on a Saturday now.
Click to expand...
Tbf, shmmee is right. Apart from a few loons on here NOPM isn't really a force. The reason for dwindling crowds is because the football is horseshit.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: Iancro

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #307
skybluebeduff said:
Been to 10 aways games thus far, hardly boycotting is it, you think NOPM means to not watch the club at all, laughable.
Click to expand...

I am not sure how simple you want it to be broken down. I didn't say anything about how many away games you have been to?

I said, if people want to boycott to starve the club / NOPM (ie: season tickets, home games) with the aim of thinking it will get rid of sisu. They can't be surprised or moan if budgets go down.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #308
covmark said:
Tbf, shmmee is right. Apart from a few loons on here NOPM isn't really a force. The reason for dwindling crowds is because the football is horseshit.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I agree, but my example of just a normal bloke going to do something else won't have them foaming because of a budget going down. They probably won't even know.
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #309
skybluebeduff said:
SISU are staving the club, what's the difference to their NOPM?
Click to expand...
None but that doesn't make my response incorrect
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #310
Nick said:
I agree, but my example of just a normal bloke going to do something else won't have them foaming because of a budget going down. They probably won't even know.
Click to expand...
Away from the skybluestalk bubble, I don't think many are foaming about the budget going down. Like you say people have found other things to do, so aren't really arsed.
If the football improved you'd probably hear next to nothing about NOPM and it would maybe attract Dave back from his golfing Saturday's, therefore we'd have more income to improve the football further.
Footballs shit, therefore people won't come, therefore less money to improve the team, it's a never ending vicious circle of shite. Fuck all to do with NOPM.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: skybluebeduff

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #311
covmark said:
Away from the skybluestalk bubble, I don't think many are foaming about the budget going down. Like you say people have found other things to do, so aren't really arsed.
If the football improved you'd probably hear next to nothing about NOPM and it would maybe attract Dave back from his golfing Saturday's, therefore we'd have more income to improve the football further.
Footballs shit, therefore people won't come, therefore less money to improve the team, it's a never ending vicious circle of shite. Fuck all to do with NOPM.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Yep, agree with that!

My point is about the Campaigns online and you will see in the paper to boycott season tickets which to me are different from Dave.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #312
skybluebeduff said:
They have said they won't negotiate whilst court cases are lingering haven't they? If Fisher thinks anything it's 50/50 on being truthful or bullshit, what's he ever said that's factual?

Still waiting on his potential sites and stadium plans..
Click to expand...

But they previously said the legals wouldn't stop them negotiating.
It looks like our illustrious owners aren't the only ones who move the goal posts when it suits- maybe it's a hedge fund thing.
 
Reactions: Ian1779

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #313
Moff said:
Head up the leagues? One minute you predict Armageddon the next we will be on a march up the leagues. Laughable.
It seems to me you are suggesting you want both SISU and the Ricoh to have long term ties to the club.
Click to expand...

Once again.
If Sisu continue to fight and we just spiral down we will be picked up for nothing after Armageddon and start again. Hopefully after administration rather than liquidation.
There is another option (preferred) and that relies on Sisu coming to the party and doing a long term deal with Wasps for the benefit of both parties.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #314
covmark said:
Haha, I take it you don't know the meaning of irony. You angry man.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

The irony is if you want respect, then show some! I swear to God you wait for me to make a post then attack. I pulled you up on your attack on a poster that wasn't called for, but hey ho that's irony for you!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 2, 2016
  • #315
skybluebeduff said:
Everything I've said is hypothetical, but the being homeless part is still looking higher in percentage than a new deal to remain at The Ricoh, no evidence to suggest otherwise.
Click to expand...
But surely if sisu are prepared to take us away from the Ricoh again and back, theoretically, to crowds of 2000 at sixfields then surely fans boycotting the Ricoh isn't going to bother them?
For what it's worth. I'm not saying catergorically NOPM doesn't work. I'm just yet to be convinced.
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 7
  • 8
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11
  • 12
  • 13
Next
First Prev 9 of 13 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?