Some NTFC fans at the Cov game (1 Viewer)

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

http://www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/index.php/topic,8182.1260.html

Interesting to read NTFC fans disillutioned with their club and have been or are considering watching Cov, especially given the current results.

The franchaise getting ever closer with SISU getting their mitts on the Sixfields ?

Grendel · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
http://www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/index.php/topic,8182.1260.html

Interesting to read NTFC fans disillutioned with their club and have been or are considering watching Cov, especially given the current results.

The franchaise getting ever closer with SISU getting their mitts on the Sixfields ?

How can they get their mits (you missed grubby by the way) on Sixfields?

fernandopartridge · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
http://www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/index.php/topic,8182.1260.html

Interesting to read NTFC fans disillutioned with their club and have been or are considering watching Cov, especially given the current results.

The franchaise getting ever closer with SISU getting their mitts on the Sixfields ?

No, you're talking absolute nonsense.

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

time will tell i suppose !

lordsummerisle · Aug 30, 2013

Why should they be interested in Sixfields when plans already advanced for buying Liberty Way and getting it expanded to a 20,000 seater by the beginning of next season and doing a ground share with Nuneaton?

WiganSkyBlue · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
http://www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/index.php/topic,8182.1260.html

Interesting to read NTFC fans disillutioned with their club and have been or are considering watching Cov, especially given the current results.

The franchaise getting ever closer with SISU getting their mitts on the Sixfields ?

This is something I feared from the outset; it seems it is happening sooner than anyone imagined. Cardoza was warned, get into bed with SISU and take the consequences. Franchise FC Mk II to be formed by a merger of NTFC with CCFC - this could be on the cards as a long term aim.

Really really hope I'm wrong

ccfcmustang · Aug 30, 2013

Who will be the first NOPM campaigner to admit defeat and in turn register their inferiority to me and my knowledge? Roll up Roll up....

lordsummerisle · Aug 30, 2013

WiganSkyBlue said:
Really really hope I'm wrong

You are, so wouldn't worry about it too much.

longjohnskyblue · Aug 30, 2013

How would NOPM have failed if sisu merge with northampton? Sisu can only make money out of this by getting their hands n the ricoh and selling it as a package with the team!

All it will prove is thatg those going to sixfields have killed the club! Had there been NOPM completely sisu could not possibly argue the move was in the interests of the clubs!

If anything it shows NOPM should be stepped up!

RoboCCFC90 · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
http://www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/index.php/topic,8182.1260.html

Interesting to read NTFC fans disillutioned with their club and have been or are considering watching Cov, especially given the current results.

The franchaise getting ever closer with SISU getting their mitts on the Sixfields ?

There has been a lot of rubbish typed up on the forum in the past, but I think this tops anything I have ever read.

Bill Glazier · Aug 30, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
There has been a lot of rubbish typed up on the forum in the past, but I think this tops anything I have ever read.

Why do you say that? A CCFC/NTFC merger and franchise looks possible to me. Why wouldn't it happen?

ccfcmustang · Aug 30, 2013

Because apparently they will sell by christmas due to the NOPM campaign

RoboCCFC90 · Aug 30, 2013

Bill Glazier said:
Why do you say that? A CCFC/NTFC merger and franchise looks possible to me. Why wouldn't it happen?

It will not happen, guaranteed!

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
It will not happen, guaranteed!

nor will the FL allow another team to move out of their area like MK Dons....

:facepalm:

fernandopartridge · Aug 30, 2013

WiganSkyBlue said:
This is something I feared from the outset; it seems it is happening sooner than anyone imagined. Cardoza was warned, get into bed with SISU and take the consequences. Franchise FC Mk II to be formed by a merger of NTFC with CCFC - this could be on the cards as a long term aim.

Really really hope I'm wrong

You are wrong. There is no 'market' for a franchise team. MK Dons are not a success story. Despite being in a City and Metropolitan area with a fairly large population and no football team, their gates don't even reach 5 figures.

Noggin · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcmustang said:
Because apparently they will sell by christmas due to the NOPM campaign

The vast vast majority of people who believe in NOPM do not believe that. In fact I think a large percentage aren't convinced it will work at all, we do however think it's the only thing doable by the fans that can work and that makes it the best option. No one has suggested anything other than could work.

You are either happy to believe that they are going to build a new stadium and are willing to support the club for 5 years away from home with sisu as the owners and thus should go to slightly minimise the damage that will be done to the club during this time (even with fan support its likely to be at minimum 1 relegation) or your not happy with this then you shouldn't go and it will make the process as painful as possible for sisu and significantly increase the case of them giving up.

what other options are there?

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
There has been a lot of rubbish typed up on the forum in the past, but I think this tops anything I have ever read.

coming from someone who less than 2 hours ago stated your glad SISU didn't pay any rent last year

RoboCCFC90 · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
nor will the FL allow another team to move out of their area like MK Dons....

:facepalm:

Ground share and refranchising are totally different.

RoboCCFC90 · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
coming from someone who less than 2 hours ago stated your glad SISU didn't pay any rent last year

With good reason at least all the rental agreement and the issues it has caused are now out in the open.

Bill Glazier · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
nor will the FL allow another team to move out of their area like MK Dons....

:facepalm:

They already have ... we've gone.

bigfatronssba · Aug 30, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
With good reason at least all the rental agreement and the issues it has caused are now out in the open.

Yep, everything is crystal clear now and we are all aware of the facts.

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
With good reason at least all the rental agreement and the issues it has caused are now out in the open.

wahey, its all out in the open. My team plays 34 miles from Coventry with no a single piece of evidence or any hint that we will ever be back.

sky blue john · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
wahey, its all out in the open. My team plays 34 miles from Coventry with no a single piece of evidence or any hint that we will ever be back.

in spite if these facts there are still fans who support everything Sisu do !!!!

ccfcmustang · Aug 30, 2013

Noggin said:
The vast vast majority of people who believe in NOPM do not believe that. In fact I think a large percentage aren't convinced it will work at all, we do however think it's the only thing doable by the fans that can work and that makes it the best option. No one has suggested anything other than could work.

You are either happy to believe that they are going to build a new stadium and are willing to support the club for 5 years away from home with sisu as the owners and thus should go to slightly minimise the damage that will be done to the club during this time (even with fan support its likely to be at minimum 1 relegation) or your not happy with this then you shouldn't go and it will make the process as painful as possible for sisu and significantly increase the case of them giving up.

what other options are there?

There are other alternatives open to us as fans. The most appropriate would to deliberately impact CCFC playing at Sixfields. For instance lets say for the next 2 or 3 home games we sell the place out and ruin it, rip it to pieces. Impact the game the lot. Due to the numbers offending there will be only 2 options left. 1) NTFC kick us out and leave us homeless. Fisher would have to return to Coventry or at least negotiations would have to proceed. or risk moving further away. 2) The football league order CCFC to play every home game behind closed doors in which case we will see if the NOPM works. The only way we can change what is happening is to impact on the field matters

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcmustang said:
There are other alternatives open to us as fans. The most appropriate would to deliberately impact CCFC playing at Sixfields. For instance lets say for the next 2 or 3 home games we sell the place out and ruin it, rip it to pieces. Impact the game the lot. Due to the numbers offending there will be only 2 options left. 1) NTFC kick us out and leave us homeless. Fisher would have to return to Coventry or at least negotiations would have to proceed. or risk moving further away. 2) The football league order CCFC to play every home game behind closed doors in which case we will see if the NOPM works. The only way we can change what is happening is to impact on the field matters

agree with that, but its cant be illegal..

We need the trust or KCIC to come out with a plan we can support.

RPHunt · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
We need the trust or KCIC to come out with a plan we can support.

I think they have got one - Stay Away From Sixfields.

spwaverley4916 · Aug 30, 2013

fernandopartridge said:
You are wrong. There is no 'market' for a franchise team. MK Dons are not a success story. Despite being in a City and Metropolitan area with a fairly large population and no football team, their gates don't even reach 5 figures.

Milton Keynes is not a City

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

RPHunt said:
I think they have got one - Stay Away From Sixfields.

which people are doing, but there has to be something else. Staying away looks like apathy. Staying away and doing something else looks like passion and commitment.

Noggin · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcmustang said:
There are other alternatives open to us as fans. The most appropriate would to deliberately impact CCFC playing at Sixfields. For instance lets say for the next 2 or 3 home games we sell the place out and ruin it, rip it to pieces. Impact the game the lot. Due to the numbers offending there will be only 2 options left. 1) NTFC kick us out and leave us homeless. Fisher would have to return to Coventry or at least negotiations would have to proceed. or risk moving further away. 2) The football league order CCFC to play every home game behind closed doors in which case we will see if the NOPM works. The only way we can change what is happening is to impact on the field matters

You need to find a large number of people who are willing to get arrested, perhaps be banned for life from football grounds, be fined and even then if you succeed in really causing trouble the most likely result is penalties for the football club. after doing it a couple of times likely point deductions, being forced to play behind closed doors or getting thrown out the league. That could get rid of sisu, it could get rid of ccfc entirely or most likely all that will happen is the few fans that you convince to do it will get arrested/fined and banned and ccfc would get a small fine. You'll really struggle to repeat it a second time.

Any suggestion that starts with first we sell 5k more tickets than we have previously then we commit illegal acts is not really a sensible suggestion.

RPHunt · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
Staying away looks like apathy. Staying away and doing something else looks like passion and commitment.

I don't usually like quoting wikipedia, but in this case it is as good as any dictionary:

"A boycott is an act of voluntarily abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with a person, organization, or country as an expression of protest, usually for social or political reasons. Sometimes, it can be a form of consumer activism."

In other words, a conscious act not apathy.

ccfcway · Aug 30, 2013

RPHunt said:
I don't usually like quoting wikipedia, but in this case it is as good as any dictionary:

"A boycott is an act of voluntarily abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with a person, organization, or country as an expression of protest, usually for social or political reasons. Sometimes, it can be a form of consumer activism."

In other words, a conscious act not apathy.

I agree, but in many on lookers eyes though it looks like apathy. I read a comment on the BBC site from a fan of Preston, who was there last week saying "less than 1500 cov fans and a mini bus full on a hill, they don't care". I do feel we need a next event organised asap.

RPHunt · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
I agree, but in many on lookers eyes though it looks like apathy. I read a comment on the BBC site from a fan of Preston, who was there last week saying "less than 1500 cov fans and a mini bus full on a hill, they don't care". I do feel we need a next event organised asap.

The sad part of that was 1,500 fans in the ground, to my mind that is where the apathy lies. Had there had been less than a minibus full in the ground, I think his opinion might have been a bit different.

fernandopartridge · Aug 30, 2013

RPHunt said:
The sad part of that was 1,500 fans in the ground, to my mind that is where the apathy lies. Had there had been less than a minibus full in the ground, I think his opinion might have been a bit different.

That's why any thought of a phoenix club is pie in the sky. Coventry fans are in general fairweather at best.

longjohnskyblue · Aug 30, 2013

ccfcway said:
agree with that, but its cant be illegal..

We need the trust or KCIC to come out with a plan we can support.

You will be waiting a long long time for that to happen! They are more interested in standing outside offices just before they close on wednesday!

Bill Glazier · Aug 30, 2013

longjohnskyblue said:
You will be waiting a long long time for that to happen! They are more interested in standing outside offices just before they close on wednesday!

Okay, Longjohn, you come up with a plan we can all support.

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