Thats not his job to blindly support your conspiracy theories not matter how widely held they are.
You won't fucking reply to my point and decided to call me a twat instead! Fucking moron.
Where did I say I knew why they rejected it? I totally agree teams should pay their way and they are paying their way in Northampton so I don't think it is just the fact of having to pay their way, there must be more to it?
I think that independent valuations should be done (3 of) and then an average taken which gives the "value" and a starting figure and that is when offers can be made. The way some people speak is that SISU should pay nothing less than the build cost / value because tax payers will be outraged and hard done by.
so if Sisu are actually interested in it then get three valuations for a happy medium, then a satisfactory bid can actually be made by Sisu or anybody else for that matter.
Because then ACL and CCC still benefit from CCFC despite the Sisu's request for a JR.
Well then we are truely fucked. Surely they could have accepted the deal whilst still pressing on with this ? the only people who would benefit would be us playing at HOME. I know of council tenants who sue councils for problems in their houses whilst they still live there and pay rent. Is this not similar ?
It is even more annoying when you must be able to calculate a percentage of blame to please some people.
The problem always has been, and this is the problem with SISU full-stop, it becomes wilful smoke and mirrors, the introduction of doubt in order to play the game... but the problem has always been that there's a relatively neutral and appropriate financial argument to be made that you take a short term hit for the long term gain. If the club came back with a valid deal that allows them to be sustainable going forward, and the club grows as a result, then it's a valid tactic.
Speaking for myself here Nick I think what grates with me is a seeming reluctance from some to accredit any blame with SISU. It seems the same people, yourself included, jumping to the defence of what has to be the worst ownership in the clubs history, and what for? because you and others feel there are more parties to blame. Maybe there are, but this does not absolve SISU of any blame surely? Hence why people get angry when the usual suspects spring to their defence.
Putting aside the ground move, there is enough ammunition for most right-minded people to crucify SISU for a lifetime so why defend them all the time? Or does an attack on SISU now need to come with percentages of blame attached to please some people in the name of balance?
Again though what do you mean by long term gain? because I get the impression you mean a painful 5 years for gain after that, I don't accept that there is an appropriate financial arguement for that in the slightest. many people, including myself if I remember correctly produced some example figures many months ago to show how much worse off building the stadium makes us. If you mean long term 25-30 years kinda long term then I accept thats a different discussion.
Sisu are trying to make things as difficult as possible for CCC at this time, Sisu know that CCC don't have an exteneded budget to take this war through the courts so it's cutting off one of their supply line's in the Arena that would be my guess anyhow.
I quite enjoy watching coventry fans justify why we are still playing at northampton. Where is my popcorn ........
Course I mean 25-30 years. i was actually thinking 50 years plus!
In my view the custodians of the club have a duty to set it up not necessarily for me, but the fruit of my loins and those who go after them.
That's the difference between a club and a business, and the problem with the trap football as a whole falls into. It's all about jam today, and sod what happens tomorrow.
I am not happy with the current situation in the slightest, however the club needs to own it's full stadium now whether that is the Ricoh, Highfield Road or Lego Land it needs to be owned by the club to maximise revenues. If this sham of a situation helps us to return to the Ricoh as owners of the Freehold as painful as it says to say it should be done.
I think because sometimes the blame for SISU is common sense so doesn't need to be said in every thread. Nobody has ever said they are blameless and by saying "how can you blame sisu" when Jordan Clarke misses a header or something equally as random.
if i get a big bag of revels can i join you. I'll have the coffe ones.
But we are making the assumption that SISU want to come back to Cov and more specifically the Ricoh arnt we? They have already told us that this is plan B, plan A is to build again. Whether that is reality or not this is what the current stance is, this might also explain why no deal can be done i.e. they dont really want it but if CCC accept a stupidly low offer then it can work for SISU.
We have one side saying they can live without a football club and the other saying they dont want to return unless they own it lock, stock. They are both lying IMO but if this remains, the reality is that we will never get back.
Personally i wish we could just know either way and put us out of our misery!
Read the statement John, Les has said previously that he has written political articles for the Guardian !!!!!
Have you got the link to where SISU have said they want ACL to pay all maintenance bills?
On another note, when people have bought houses and cars have they always paid the asking price or tried to get it for as little as possible?
Les Reid fails to comdemn it, in fact he misrepresents it instead, saying
@TheSkyBlueTrust's now published #CCFC letter. Seems to advise removing @guardian article link IF #CCFC takes action http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/attachments/article/324/slet.png …
which isn't what it says at all.
Why don't you listen to this @ 6.30 mins in http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...shire_Sport_The_Sky_Blues_phonein_06_12_2013/
It certainly Implies that they don't recognise what are genuine matchday costs to any football club owner ,and were to Fisher last season @ £10K. per game ,Why Insist Its rent when It clearly Is'nt .
He seems Innaccurate also suggesting Nil lamptey revealed the deal ,not accurate ,and then when Clive asks come back for the fans ,when anyone feels the need to say Quite Honestly after their response Is being Insincere.
was thinking when was the last time ACL, the Council or Charity actually gave an interview and were questioned rather than issued a statement? Was guessing it was around early August.
Anyone know?
Didn't Tim Fisher say that everything was included as part of the rent?
At Northampton, Rent includes; all stadium related first team match day services including pitch maintenance, utilities, refuse collection and covers the following facilities - the pitch, the stadium, the stadium seating, the changing rooms, hospitality suites and banqueting areas, match day staff facilities, media facilities.
The stadium also provide all catering staff, all grounds men. The licensee (the club) separately provide stewards, crowd doctor, crowd ambulance, player ambulance.
Weren't they questioned by Cov Back to Ricoh (CBTR) last week or week before?
You mean the stuff that was reported on the Nii Lamptey pod cast Robo? Wasnt an interview with ACL or Charity though, was two council officers. Aside from that I dont remember much else do you?
You mean the stuff that was reported on the Nii Lamptey pod cast Robo? Wasnt an interview with ACL or Charity though, was two council officers. Aside from that I dont remember much else do you?
Sorry, I meant at Sixfields. His words were:
must have missed that ........... has there been any report back on it?
Still doesnt include the other two members of the trilogy though
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