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Solid start to the season (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Aug 30, 2025
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Cally Fedora

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #71
procdoc said:
He’s scored in both away games. You don’t go to games though so probably haven’t even noticed
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Did he? Hadn’t noticed. Arse.
 

Lamps

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #72
shmmeee said:
By this logic any comparison is a waste of time.
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How many sides that have played Sheffield United this season beat them in the corresponding games last season?
 

blunted

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #73
CovValleyBoy said:
Pearce wasn't brilliant for the City tho'.
Borderline average.
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Yeah that's why the Forest, a top club at the time bought him. I'm talking Stuart Pearce the England right back not the centre half.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #74
Lamps said:
How many sides that have played Sheffield United this season beat them in the corresponding games last season?
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Not sure how this disproves that any comparison is invalid if you take that line.
 

CCFC96

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #75
shmmeee said:
By this logic any comparison is a waste of time.
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No it isn’t - comparing us at home vs Wednesday last year to what it will be this year is a completely pointless endeavour.

However comparing both say, ours and Bristol City’s starts (played similar sides) is a fair thing to do.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #76
CCFC96 said:
No it isn’t - comparing us at home vs Wednesday last year to what it will be this year is a completely pointless endeavour.

However comparing both say, ours and Bristol City’s starts (played similar sides) is a fair thing to do.
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In what sense are you classing sides as similar?
 

blunted

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #77
CovValleyBoy said:
Clough saw the potential & developed the player.
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Bobby Gould said at the time he had asked his players if any of them knew a good right back. Pearce was recommended. Terry Venables wanted him. Can't remember if he was managing QPR or Spurs. Gould said he couldn't believe how good a player he was for a bloke who had been on a building site.
The only player I remember taking Pearce to the cleaners for us was Kevin Gallacher. Incidentally, Gallacher was another player who came in and was brilliant right away. Apart from Grimes, I struggle to think of another player who has come in and has been really good from day one.
 
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CCFC96

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #78
shmmeee said:
In what sense are you classing sides as similar?
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We’ve both played Derby and Hull.

you get no benefit comparing us playing a Selles Hull side to this season hull
 
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blunted

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #79
shmmeee said:
More that we got 9 points from these 4 games last season. So while the football has been great at times, results wise we’re behind on last year, which isn’t great.

However, if we draw against Norwich we’re back level and if we win we’re two points up. Next three will tell us a lot about whether we’ve improved on last year. I don’t think we came close to a top three side in any game last season under Lampard really. Beat a Sunderland team on the beach but didn’t really lay a glove on them when it mattered. I want to see us competing against the likes of Norwich Leicester and Birmingham before I decide we’ve moved up a level.
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Have to disagree with your Sunderland play off matches observation. Most third party observers thought we were not only the better side over two legs, but had the best chances and were unlucky as well.
The bounce of the ball twice for Rudoni in front of goal were really unlucky preventing him scoring. They parked the bus twice and we gave them two soft goals. The one from MVE was a school boy error which happens when the pressure is on. See Maatsen in the Euro final.
I completely agree we never got near Leeds in two matches and only gave Burnley a match at home where goalkeeper errors undermined us. Sheff Utd took us to the cleaners at their place and we got lucky with the sending off at home, or it is likely we would have lost that match as well.
Add West Brom and Bristol to clubs we must compete with.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #80
clint van damme said:
Sunderland were on the beach?!!
They went on to get promoted, did they cut their holiday short?!
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They were coasting as they couldn't achieve second spot by the time they played us?
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #81
blunted said:
Bobby Gould said at the time he had asked his players if any of them knew a good right back. Pearce was recommended. Terry Venables wanted him. Can't remember if he was managing QPR or Spurs. Gould said he couldn't believe how good a player he was for a bloke who had been on a building site.
The only player I remember taking Pearce to the cleaners for us was Kevin Gallacher. Incidentally, Gallacher was another player who came in and was brilliant right away. Apart from Grimes, I struggle to think of another player who has come in and has been really good from day one.
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Robbie Keane
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #82
blunted said:
Yeah that's why the Forest, a top club at the time bought him. I'm talking Stuart Pearce the England right back not the centre half.
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That was Andy Pearce I think
 

Lamps

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #83
shmmeee said:
Not sure how this disproves that any comparison is invalid if you take that line.
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So it's got nothing to do with how the clubs played last season and it's got nothing to do with how they've played this season so far?
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #84
Lamps said:
So it's got nothing to do with how the clubs played last season and it's got nothing to do with how they've played this season so far?
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In either metric we’ve had an easy start. I know people want to play all mysterious and maybe Oxford are going to win the league this year but be serious.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #85
It’s simple. Two wins, two draws and unbeaten. In the championship, that’s a solid start.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #86
Good start
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #87
blunted said:
Bobby Gould said at the time he had asked his players if any of them knew a good right back. Pearce was recommended. Terry Venables wanted him. Can't remember if he was managing QPR or Spurs. Gould said he couldn't believe how good a player he was for a bloke who had been on a building site.
The only player I remember taking Pearce to the cleaners for us was Kevin Gallacher. Incidentally, Gallacher was another player who came in and was brilliant right away. Apart from Grimes, I struggle to think of another player who has come in and has been really good from day one.
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Mick Quinn
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #88
Dion Dublin scored on his debut and was consistantly more than a 1 goal in 3 games striker in the 4 full seasons he was with City.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Sep 12, 2025
  • #89
covcity4life said:
We also were more likely to win the two games we have drawn than the opposition so all this stuff about 9pts last year from same 4 is silly, we are clearly in a better place and close to sitting on 12 PTS right now
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Wouldn't argue with your statement about being in a better place, but it's an indisputable fact that we're 4 points away from 12 points. Not close.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Sep 12, 2025
  • #90
blunted said:
Yeah that's why the Forest, a top club at the time bought him. I'm talking Stuart Pearce the England right back not the centre half.
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Stuart Pearce has never played right back in his life. Unbelievable left back though.
 

Lamps

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  • Sep 12, 2025
  • #91
itsabuzzard said:
Wouldn't argue with your statement about being in a better place, but it's an indisputable fact that we're 4 points away from 12 points. Not close.
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Over a whole season there's a 2 points a game target. That's a 92 point finish. We're not just close but spot on and having Middlesbrough with a very good start doesn't suddenly mean we're not close to our target. Our biggest rivals were supposed to be Sheffield United and the relegated sides. Would you have been happy with being 8 points above Sheffield United after just 4 games?

For working out how we're actually doing against our rivals you need to wait for about 10 games. Taking a snapshot of the table now is like saying Middlesbrough will stroll to the title and Sheffield United will finish bottom. But in reality neither will happen.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Sep 12, 2025
  • #92
Lamps said:
Over a whole season there's a 2 points a game target. That's a 92 point finish. We're not just close but spot on and having Middlesbrough with a very good start doesn't suddenly mean we're not close to our target. Our biggest rivals were supposed to be Sheffield United and the relegated sides. Would you have been happy with being 8 points above Sheffield United after just 4 games?

For working out how we're actually doing against our rivals you need to wait for about 10 games. Taking a snapshot of the table now is like saying Middlesbrough will stroll to the title and Sheffield United will finish bottom. But in reality neither will happen.
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I was merely questioning the notion that 8 points is close to 12. It just isn't.
 

blunted

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  • Sep 12, 2025
  • #93
skyblue025 said:
Stuart Pearce has never played right back in his life. Unbelievable left back though.
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My bad, don't know where right back came from. Brain fart.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #94
-Most big chances created in the league

-Highest XG in the league

-4th lowest XG conceded

-Won the ball in the final third the most in the league

-Most touches in opposition box in the league

- 2nd highest possession in the league

- Most goals scored in the league
 
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TomRad85

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #95
Evo1883 said:
-Most big chances created in the league

-Highest XG in the league

-4th lowest XG conceded

-Won the ball in the final third the most in the league

-Most touches in opposition box in the league

- 2nd highest possession in the league

- Most goals scored in the league
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So we're getting almost everything right. Just keep at it I suppose and good things will hopefully follow.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #96
That stats would suggest we are one of the best teams in the league. Just feels a bit frustrating because we should be at least 4 points better off.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #97
TomRad85 said:
So we're getting almost everything right. Just keep at it I suppose and good things will hopefully follow.
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Yeah I think we are looking good personally , we will only get better a the season goes on
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #98
Every year at every club there is some wise guy who says “I’d rather see us win 5-4 than be a boring team that’s good at defending” and by god, that man this season is Frank Lampard
 
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castellon_skyblue

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #99
blunted said:
Bobby Gould said at the time he had asked his players if any of them knew a good right back. Pearce was recommended. Terry Venables wanted him. Can't remember if he was managing QPR or Spurs. Gould said he couldn't believe how good a player he was for a bloke who had been on a building site.
The only player I remember taking Pearce to the cleaners for us was Kevin Gallacher. Incidentally, Gallacher was another player who came in and was brilliant right away. Apart from Grimes, I struggle to think of another player who has come in and has been really good from day one.
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Mick Quinn.
 

AOM

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  • Sep 13, 2025
  • #100
Evo1883 said:
-Most big chances created in the league

-Highest XG in the league

-4th lowest XG conceded

-Won the ball in the final third the most in the league

-Most touches in opposition box in the league

- 2nd highest possession in the league

- Most goals scored in the league
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The next two games will be a good test, but I've not really seen much from other teams in the league for us to fear so far.

Nobody seems to be running away with it yet, unless Ipswich suddenly kick into gear after last night
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 14, 2025
  • #101
AOM said:
The next two games will be a good test, but I've not really seen much from other teams in the league for us to fear so far.

Nobody seems to be running away with it yet, unless Ipswich suddenly kick into gear after last night
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They must have worked on it in the international break.
 
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AOM

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  • Sep 15, 2025
  • #102
wingy said:
They must have worked on it in the international break.
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International breaks seem to have weird effects on teams. I recall we've turned poor form around or fallen out of winning runs post international breaks as well
 
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