So who are the candidates? (7 Viewers)

oucho · Mar 9, 2016

To be clear, I'm not in favour of Mowbray getting the chop - in fact, part of the reason for this is the potential replacements. Had a think about it overnight and the best I could come up with was

O'Discroll
Cotterill
Micky Adams
Dickov
Lawrie Sanchez
Robins
Magilton
Tisdale

Doesn't exactly get the pulse racing, does it?

cmoncity · Mar 9, 2016

No we should stick with tm long term. We cant keep sacking managers it hasnt got us anywhere.

BrisbaneBronco · Mar 9, 2016

Cannot afford the compo either

SkyBlueSid · Mar 9, 2016

I would agree that Mowbray should be given another season.

The question then is will he give us another season? I suspect not.

cmoncity · Mar 9, 2016

He knows football inside out and yes were in a very bad patch but it takes time to build a club.look what he has had to use some of the budget on. Training ground revamp...painting of team bus....etc next season he will hopefully just invest in the squad. Also his player database for scouted players should be alot more fruitfull as that was starting from scratch. I am sure wherever we end up this season next season will be better. This season is far from over and lets be honest if we had been offered a mid table finish this year we would have took it after previous seasons. Stick with TM he will sort us out.In TM i trust

clint van damme · Mar 9, 2016

BrisbaneBronco said:
Cannot afford the compo either

this, more than anything else, is why he'll be staying.

oucho · Mar 9, 2016

cmoncity said:
No we should stick with tm long term. We cant keep sacking managers it hasnt got us anywhere.

Agreed - I say this every time we sack a manager, and everyone ignores me as we (usually) have a brief bounce, then they forget the average of 1 manager per year in the last however many years...then it's "sack him" when the next one struggles.

BrisbaneBronco said:
Cannot afford the compo either

To be fair he's not on big money - just contracted to the end of next season. He isn't here for the money, I can tell you that, so it wouldn't be of Boothroyd / Coleman / Dowie / Pressley proportions.

SkyBlueSid said:
I would agree that Mowbray should be given another season.

The question then is will he give us another season? I suspect not.

Well his contract is for another season after this one - are you saying the second year is optional on either our part or his?

steve82 · Mar 9, 2016

I put this in the Mowbray thread :
Mowbray is still the man for me but he's gotta change his team selections and style of play. Look at LVG, his philosophy did him no favours at all! We need to change, mix it up just to end the season on a better note and form to take forward.
If TM should stay beyond this season and go for another then his recruitment really has to be spot on. Less loans, and players with experience. No has been players, just players who we can put a good base down for for 2/3 seasons.
Like he's quoted as saying "men variably get the job done". The core base of this team is too youthful, which we seen was electric when all is well. But now it seems things are flat with a struggle to see a game out or come back. So the recruitment needs to be the best it's ever been, and learn from this season where you could say his hands may of been tied in the time scale he had to get a squad of the right experience in due to players opting elsewhere or not avaliable.
We all know the scouting system was poor. Now we should be in a better position to get these players signed up as we have them on our data base and should no enough about players around our level or more gems like chris stokes.
We really need a leader too, ideally a hungry player with experience who can do the job on the pitch in the 90 mins.
Plenty to learn from this season and take forward.

cmoncity · Mar 9, 2016

How do you know hes not on much? It must be enough to make him leave his family up north

oucho · Mar 9, 2016

cmoncity said:
How do you know hes not on much? It must be enough to make him leave his family up north

Umm no. How do I know? PM me if you want to know.

steve82 · Mar 9, 2016

cmoncity said:
How do you know hes not on much? It must be enough to make him leave his family up north

Think that just more practicality of keeping his family settled. As we can see within a year a manager can go from hero to villan

cmoncity · Mar 9, 2016

I just cant see tm doing it for very little money unless theres a big bonus involved if targets are hit

chiefdave · Mar 9, 2016

A lot of people seem to think Mowbray will leave. If he was leaving as a matter of principle due to something behind the scenes wouldn't he have done that already?

I can't imagine, with our recent results, other clubs are queuing up for him.

torchomatic · Mar 9, 2016

I think Anderson (and SISU) know Mowbray is a good manager. He's not become rubbish overnight and neither have the players. Teams, managers and players have bad patches. Ours is no different. Rather it had been at the beginning rather than the end of the season, but that's football.

No need to panic. Compared to previous seasons this has still been a success. Disappointing, but it's easy to lose perspective.

SkyBlueSid said:
I would agree that Mowbray should be given another season.

The question then is will he give us another season? I suspect not.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Mar 9, 2016

oucho said:
To be clear, I'm not in favour of Mowbray getting the chop - in fact, part of the reason for this is the potential replacements. Had a think about it overnight and the best I could come up with was

O'Discroll
Cotterill
Micky Adams
Dickov
Lawrie Sanchez
Robins
Magilton
Tisdale

Doesn't exactly get the pulse racing, does it?

Certainly not......I'd suggest that presents at least 7 good reasons to stick with Mogga till then end of the season & then take stock.....

oucho · Mar 9, 2016

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Certainly not......I'd suggest that presents at least 7 good reasons to stick with Mogga till then end of the season & then take stock.....

My point exactly!

cmoncity said:
I just cant see tm doing it for very little money unless theres a big bonus involved if targets are hit

Then you don't know the full story.

torchomatic said:
Disagree. I think Anderson (and SISU) know Mowbray is a good manager. He's not become rubbish overnight and neither have the players. Teams, managers and players have bad patches. Ours is no different. Rather it had been at the beginning rather than the end of the season, but that's football.

No need to panic. Compared to previous seasons this has still been a success. Disappointing, but it's easy to lose perspective.

Couldn't agree more.

Nick · Mar 9, 2016

oucho said:
My point exactly!

Then you don't know the full story.

Couldn't agree more.

what is the full story?

Ashdown · Mar 9, 2016

Nigel Pearson !

covcity4life · Mar 9, 2016

win on sat and chance we back in playoffs cia goal diff. could be that for once we get momentum at the right time

clutching at straws i know

No Way Back · Mar 9, 2016

As has been said before its not just the defeats, it the manner of the defeats that galls me.
100% effort & commitment are needed & these haven't been evident.

torchomatic · Mar 9, 2016

Ashdown said:
Nigel Pearson !

...is a twat.

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oucho · Mar 9, 2016

torchomatic said:
...is a twat.

Or, alternatively, is on his way to Newcastle until June...

torchomatic · Mar 9, 2016

oucho said:
Or, alternatively, is on his way to Newcastle until June...

Lucky them!

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Sick Boy · Mar 9, 2016

SkyBlueSid said:
I would agree that Mowbray should be given another season.

The question then is will he give us another season? I suspect not.

Why not? It's not as though he is going to be inundated with offers from elsewhere and hen isn't above us as a club.

oucho · Mar 9, 2016

Sick Boy said:
Why not? It's not as though he is going to be inundated with offers from elsewhere and hen isn't above us as a club.

"...should be given another season..." - his contract doesn't run out intil June 2017, so he already has got next season with us, unless they cancel by mutual consent sooner.

ccfcway · Mar 9, 2016

cmoncity said:
He knows football inside out and yes were in a very bad patch but it takes time to build a club.look what he has had to use some of the budget on. Training ground revamp...painting of team bus....etc

I look fwd to the new toilets and painting of the canteen next pre season

oucho · Mar 9, 2016

I have a theory that it takes more than one season to be successfully - you have to challenge for at least a season or two prior to winning something to have a chance. We've got such a long history of failure or mediocrity that it'll take a near miss and a strong campaign to get us over the line next time, or the time after. There are exceptions but these are indeed exceptions to a general rule.

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 9, 2016

Didn't we mess Cotterill around in 2010 when he was at Notts County and he turned us down?

ClarkeZ · Mar 9, 2016

oucho said:
I have a theory that it takes more than one season to be successfully - you have to challenge for at least a season or two prior to winning something to have a chance. We've got such a long history of failure or mediocrity that it'll take a near miss and a strong campaign to get us over the line next time, or the time after. There are exceptions but these are indeed exceptions to a general rule.

Agreed, the revolving door of managers got us to a final day survival scrap at the bottom of league 1 last year.
We are not in danger of relegation, if we were 20th and on this form I might be saying something different.

We keep going on about how Mowbray needs to change his tactics, team selections and what he does, so maybe we need to do the same. Stop baying for blood because of some shite form and give our manager more than 12 months. We shouldn't be considering sacking him at the very least before the end of the season in my opinion. Its not worked before, why would it work now?

smouch1975 · Mar 9, 2016

cmoncity said:
How do you know hes not on much? It must be enough to make him leave his family up north

oucho said:
Umm no. How do I know? PM me if you want to know.

Because you are chatting shit and offer only four inches?

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rupert_bear · Mar 9, 2016

But after nearly 3 months of struggle we are no nearer a solution ! We continue with the same team formation that's failed for 3 months. Let's remember we are losing to struggling teams come April we are against the better sides on the league.

CCFC88 · Mar 9, 2016

You have to remember that this is his first full season in this league, it sounds silly to say as he is probably the most/best experienced manager in the League but it is new to him aswell, L1 is a very different prospect to the Championship.

If we ever do get out of this league its TM that I would want to lead us into a season in the Championship.

lifeskyblue · Mar 9, 2016

It may be new to TM but after such an awful run since November I would have expected the 'most experienced' and 'best' manager at this level to have learnt something. I don't want to listen to the same post match interviews; I don't want to witness the same abject defending or woeful attacking as we have recently. I want TM to lead us out of L1 but he only will if he adapts the style of play, has a plan B and gets a team of fully committed and passionate players. Without that he will lead us to mid table mediocrity at best.

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Otis · Mar 9, 2016

Sick Boy said:
Why not? It's not as though he is going to be inundated with offers from elsewhere and hen isn't above us as a club.

If this turns out to be the third time teams of his have collapsed out of the play-offs, then I can't see how he will be inundated with offers.

Captain Dart · Mar 9, 2016

torchomatic said:
I think Anderson (and SISU) know Mowbray is a good manager. He's not become rubbish overnight and neither have the players. Teams, managers and players have bad patches. Ours is no different. Rather it had been at the beginning rather than the end of the season, but that's football.

No need to panic. Compared to previous seasons this has still been a success. Disappointing, but it's easy to lose perspective.

I don't disagree. and here is more food for thought...

Jimmy Hill took became Coventry manager in Nov 1961, he didn't get promotion till the 63-64 season.

Instant success isn't always lasting success.

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