So Much for Ricoh Return (1 Viewer)
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Rusty Trombone
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Kingokings204
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I didn't go yesterday. It's the first game I missed since the return. I live in North Yorkshire and cannot afford to take my lad and I to every game. Something has to give when it costs £20-40 per game before fuel and other costs. I suspect there are thousands in similar circumstances who would love to be there but it has become too expensive to do regularly. I have to pick and choose the games I go to. As Christmas approaches I suspect it will get worse. We had 27,000 for the Gills game despite it being on telly. Is it a coincidence it was only £10 to get in? I don't think so.
The absolute fiasco that was the ticketing on return to the Ricoh put many off. Those queues for the Yeovil game will not be forgotten by many. City rushed back and were not ready for it. We lost a lot of people after that too.
The absolute fiasco that was the ticketing on return to the Ricoh put many off. Those queues for the Yeovil game will not be forgotten by many. City rushed back and were not ready for it. We lost a lot of people after that too.
dongonzalos
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In comparison to who?
90% of clubs attendances go down as the clubs performances and league position goes down.
If you drop a league but perform well you may buck the trend.
CCFC need to win the fans back Gillingham showed the club what they have to aim for.
If you can get 27k and others missed out.
Then you get 7700 you know you have run your business better.
Mr T - Sukka!
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You move a club away from the city and low gates are the result. Blame SISU for that one, they are the owners and are 100% responible for what goes on the pitch. If they dont invest why should fans?
A football club always gets the support it deserves. Its driven by demand.
Sorry RFC but why dont you ask why the owners are "fickle" and why they lack "loyalty"?
torchomatic
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Offensive? Really? There are more offensive things in the world than disagreeing with someone about football.
Evo1883
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True , i did however get offended by pressleys post match interview yesterday
torchomatic
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Agree, we did rush back. We should have taken our time and said we'll be back by...oh, I don't know, say mid October or something and that would have given the club maybe 7/8 weeks to sort stuff out properly. The problem is though there was a wave of euphoria has people had been right clamouring for a return.
Flying Fokker
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Offensive owners, poor performances on the pitch(why pay for that rubbish), poor formation, 3 defeats. Saving their money for Exeter (4k attendance), the prospect of going through more instabiltiy as fans, we missed 23 home games last year so why do we have to walk up to see this crap?
I think the majority of people have decided to leave under their own terms rather than have the club taken away from them. I get that.
I think the majority of people have decided to leave under their own terms rather than have the club taken away from them. I get that.
Monkeyface
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To be fair 7k is a similar number to those who marched and made all the noise. And those of us who went yesterday are the clubs hardcore, who will go no matter what. Heard some arsehole in the casino yesterday saying 'where are all these wankers who marched' well they were there, and always will be!
Football is an entertainment, that you have to sell at the right price, and the current product is rubbish and costs too much.
Unfortunately for our club, most fans had ran out of steam watching year upon year of shit before all this stadium bullocks started, which has meant the tossers in charge and the Coventry mafia in the council house have been able to behave just how they want. I suspect things would have been very different had this all kicked off 20 years ago.
Unless something positive happens very quickly, I dread to think where the club will be in a couple of seasons.
Sorry gone a bit off tangent there, but think it's all linked somehow.
Football is an entertainment, that you have to sell at the right price, and the current product is rubbish and costs too much.
Unfortunately for our club, most fans had ran out of steam watching year upon year of shit before all this stadium bullocks started, which has meant the tossers in charge and the Coventry mafia in the council house have been able to behave just how they want. I suspect things would have been very different had this all kicked off 20 years ago.
Unless something positive happens very quickly, I dread to think where the club will be in a couple of seasons.
Sorry gone a bit off tangent there, but think it's all linked somehow.
Flying Fokker
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Too right it is. At the end of the day it is the supporter who has to decide what is right for them. The problem with football is that too many treat is as a religion and therefore are duty bound to it. I 'support' the Sky Blues. It is now easier to miss games because SISU made it clear that the club means nothing to them, the fans mean nothing to them. My season ticket will not be used for every game this season. I'm already regretting my decision to buy this season given the mess ahead.
Monkeyface
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Another thing that has affected attendance is the lack of a direct debit facility... just in my group of five, two have been unable to buy a st because they can't afford the £315 up front.
Think its very easy when you have a disposable income, to forget how much that kinda money is. It's a weeks wage for most of our fans, probably more in many cases.
Think its very easy when you have a disposable income, to forget how much that kinda money is. It's a weeks wage for most of our fans, probably more in many cases.
ccfc92
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yeah, let's discuss them things in the world on a football forum.
italiahorse
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People have found other things to do after a year away.
I'm regretting getting a season ticket now after my initial excitement.
It's going to be a long season knowing what we have on the pitch will give us mid table, if we are lucky.
I'm regretting getting a season ticket now after my initial excitement.
It's going to be a long season knowing what we have on the pitch will give us mid table, if we are lucky.
torchomatic
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ccfc92
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Colonel Mustard
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All fair points.
But then you have to reflect on the nature of a football club and the definition of support. I mean, say that the Ricoh had been sold out for every game in 2008, 2009, 2010. Would the team be in L1 now? Would SISU even still be here? Are fans not abdicating crucial responsibility if they sit at home waiting for a better tomorrow?
Flying Fokker
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No, we are consumers of a product. We a shopping at poundland in terms of what is being offered.
chiefdave
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Not sure why this is a surprise to anyone. Before we left we were averaging under 11K. That was for our first season in L1 where a decent chunk of our support expected a promotion push. Everyone said when we buggered off to Northampton it would damage the fan base and it has. Yesterdays attendance was low as we have a lot of home games close together (including one where tickets are cheap), the last home performance was appalling and the weather is starting to turn - all things that might make people think I won't bother. Especially when they don't have a season ticket.
Remember while they are low for us they are still among the highest in the division.
Same for me, it's 3 hours each way and £40 in petrol, by the time you've added in ticket, parking and a bit of food you're looking at the best part of £100 a game. Wouldn't be a bad idea for the club to look at connecting fans that live near each other so they can share travel costs, can't be too hard to do that with the information they have in their database.
You don't have to be business expert to work out that if nearly 25K seats are empty something is wrong. The question is would a lower ticket price give a big enough bump in revenues (total revenues not just ticket revenues) to at least mean we weren't bringing in less money overall. Think it would be wise of the club to get some serious market research done, they have details of thousands of people who aren't going, get someone in to contact them and find out why and what it would take to get them back.
It seems like nothing happens, we get a low attendance and there's a shrug of the shoulders and we just carry on the same as before. If you were running a cinema, night club etc you'd be looking for reasons people weren't turning up and trying to turn things around, the club needs to do the same.
ccfc92
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Getting poundland products, but paying Harrod's prices
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Agreed the club should be doing much more to increase attendances
Colonel Mustard
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The capitalism metaphor is troublesome. If we were just consumers, then we could switch to another provider for our needs.
torchomatic
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I just used the switchurteam.com website as I was a bit fed up with all the shenanigans here and my new team is top of the Premier League. Got 2500 clubcard points too. Sweet.
skybluebeduff
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Easy to explain it in 4 words. "We want SISU out".
Flying Fokker
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Nah, i Get what you are saying but I would rather go without if that were the case.
There are plenty of things to iron out about the club, it's playing side, it's marketing and ticket arrangements, it's pricing and it's ownership but all that said and done I'm mightily happier about my football than I was 2 months ago. At least now I can make plans to go to home games in Coventry and get CCFC on my agenda again, the football will improve I'm sure.
Monkeyface
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But that's the thing isn't it... people are choosing another product, whether it's Sky sports, or another pass time all together. Just because mugs like us will keep paying, doesn't mean others will. Not sure if you've ever taken kids to a football match, but yesterday was no way to spend quality time with your children.
Hobo
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It sounds like you would rather we had stayed in Northampton? Most of your posts when we were there sounded like you were a pig in muck.
SISU made a massive mistake when moving us. Football is in the leisure market,a very competitive field...however because of fan loyalty etc., the FL, FA, Clubs, players and owners like SISU think they can take the fans for granted.
People are finding more and more, there are alternatives, that not only offer equal or often more entertainment...but those alternatives are actually cheaper!
I was loyal to a Coventry team yesterday that actually won, played their game with flair and imagination, was welcomed along with my guests and nobody was bitching about how many games we had or had not attended in the last 12 months.
When I grew up supporting CCFC, it didn't matter how many games you went to, you were either a fan or you weren't. You were accepted and respected regardless. Tossers like you and Andreas B have killed the club along with SISSU....you should be proud and grateful of the fans who went to games at Wembley on 2 occasions and went to the Ricoh for the Crewe and Gillingham games.
