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So many point do you think we need to confirm a play off place ? (2 Viewers)

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Alex1987

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #71
70 for 6th, perhaps 71/72 for 5th
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #72
Saddlebrains said:
Hull - Draw
Albion - Win
Plymouth- Win
Luton - Draw
Boro - Draw
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I suppose the only concern there with that Hull draw, is, we could be outside the playoff places tomorrow and if we drew Monday, we would then still be outside.

Which then means there would be more pressure on us for the WBA game.

Results going our way tomorrow would be so incredibly helpful right now.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #73
Otis said:
72 is still quite an ask from us isn't it.

10 points from 5 games, so 3 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat.

Not much room for error is there
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Otis said:
I suppose the only concern there with that Hull draw, is, we could be outside the playoff places tomorrow and if we drew Monday, we would then still be outside.

Which then means there would be more pressure on us for the WBA game.

Results going our way tomorrow would be so incredibly helpful right now.
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71 points should be enough. Bristol are currently outperforming the data metrics so if things even out, they’ll drop points. It’s their home form that’s really impressive so hopefully Sunderland give them a kicking on Good Friday.

4 points from Hull and WBA works for us either way. We’ve only got 4 days recovery too which isn’t ideal. If we get 6 points, it wouldn’t quite be ‘job done’ but you’d think there would be daylight between ourselves and the chasing pack.

WBA need to beat Watford to stand any chance of leapfrogging frogging us on Good Friday. A draw would suit us perfectly in that game.

Boro away at Millwall is a tough game and both teams need a win. Boro need to get in the playoffs and Millwall need the points to stand a fighting chance of playoffs.

It would be unlucky if Bristol, Boro and WBA all get maximum points this weekend. We’ll remain in the top 6 going into Monday.
 
Last edited: Apr 11, 2025
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mmttww

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #74
Win the next two and so much pressure gets lifted. No reason why we can't do that if we control the game like we have consistently with Grimes, and play at a tempo more like we did vs. Sunderland.
 
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napolimp

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #75
It's easy to look at the table now and think, so and so could get to this many points because they have 5 games remaining. But looking at it objectively, outside the top 6 currently Boro would need to win 3 draw 1 to get to 70, West Brom and Milwall would need to win 4 draw 1 to get to 70, Watford pretty much need full sweep. Those are difficult sets of results to achieve at this point of the season. A huge win on Monday, and it's 5 points from 4 for the 70 mark.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #76
Three wins for sixth, four for fifth I reckon.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #77
We are playing good teams at home and poor teams away. I think that's the best combo
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Apr 11, 2025
  • #78
Treat every team as a top team else it will bite you
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #79
Warwickhunt said:
Treat every team as a top team else it will bite you
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Yup and we have to remember that Luton were in the Premier League last year, so they do have good players.

No complacency and be right on our game from here on in, with gut-busting efforts in every encounter.

Just show that we need it more than them
 
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Lamps

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #80
Warwickhunt said:
Treat every team as a top team else it will bite you
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I think we will see a couple of sides put out we don't expect in the next 5 games.

Our remaining away games are against 19th, 23rd and 24th. I would guess at least 2 of them will be against sides playing with all their players behind the ball.and hitting us on the counter. Hopefully they will be like the second half against Portsmouth and bot pose too much of a threat.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #81
Lamps said:
I think we will see a couple of sides put out we don't expect in the next 5 games.

Our remaining away games are against 19th, 23rd and 24th. I would guess at least 2 of them will be against sides playing with all their players behind the ball.and hitting us on the counter. Hopefully they will be like the second half against Portsmouth and bot pose too much of a threat.
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The idea that Plymouth, Luton and Hull will turn into prime Real Madrid is a bit silly.

3 teams need to get relegated and it’s usually the teams that aren’t good enough. All 3 of those teams have pretty bad home records and whilst Luton are getting positive results, they’ve been draws and have only beaten teams around them.

Derby bit us in the backside and that’s because they have a good team for a promoted side and have hired a solid manager in Eustace. They are the form team in and around that area of the pitch.

When we beat Oxford, they were in the relegation battle (still are somewhat) and we won, their home record was a lot stronger than the teams we play - in fact it was better than Sheff U’s at the time, albeit over a shorter period (last 8 home games).
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #82
With us playing 3 of the bottom bunch from our last 5 , you'd be disappointed to not make it now
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #83
Evo1883 said:
With us playing 3 of the bottom bunch from our last 5 , you'd be disappointed to not make it now
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As well as a stuttering WBA and a game v Boro on the final day.

It’s well within our control and if we don’t make it, the season can be considered a failure. Not a failure in Lampard’s part personally because what he’s inherited, just as a whole.

Which, to be fair, many of us considered the season over by November.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #84
Mucca Mad Boys said:
As well as a stuttering WBA and a game v Boro on the final day.

It’s well within our control and if we don’t make it, the season can be considered a failure. Not a failure in Lampard’s part personally because what he’s inherited, just as a whole.

Which, to be fair, many of us considered the season over by November.
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The players are good enough , as shown for the second season in a row , in and around the playoffs again on the final stretch
 
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DT-R

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #85
Jarvo87 said:
It’s all if’s, buts, and maybe’s but my quick, back of fag packet calculations:

Brizzle finishing the season on 68,
WBA on 67
With us on 68 and Boro on 69 going into our final game showdown, which we win to qualify in 5th, and Boro get 6th.

All 3 of us have fairly similar run-ins in terms of league positions of the sides we each to play.

We beat Sunderland, Leeds beat Boro - we win PO final on pens, 6-5

Most important thing is to win tomorrow….
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Mike Basset? Is that you? Have you got Lambert and Butler up top in a 442?

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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #86
Hull - Draw
Albion - Draw
Plymouth- Win
Luton - Lose
Boro - Draw
 
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DT-R

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #87
lordsummerisle said:
One was against a team in the bottom 3.
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Who have also recently beat Blackburn and Preston and took a point from top of the league. We were awful v Derby, but they've really pulled a survival chance out the bag. On paper, it wasn't a great game to lose (especially with the 3 games that followed) but in reality, it hasn't had that much of an impact on our season. Especially with clubs around us dropping clangers left right and centre

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shepardo01

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #88
Mucca Mad Boys said:
71 points should be enough. Bristol are currently outperforming the data metrics so if things even out, they’ll drop points. It’s their home form that’s really impressive so hopefully Sunderland give them a kicking on Good Friday.

4 points from Hull and WBA works for us either way. We’ve only got 4 days recovery too which isn’t ideal. If we get 6 points, it wouldn’t quite be ‘job done’ but you’d think there would be daylight between ourselves and the chasing pack.

WBA need to beat Watford to stand any chance of leapfrogging frogging us on Good Friday. A draw would suit us perfectly in that game.

Boro away at Millwall is a tough game and both teams need a win. Boro need to get in the playoffs and Millwall need the points to stand a fighting chance of playoffs.

It would be unlucky if Bristol, Boro and WBA all get maximum points this weekend. We’ll remain in the top 6 going into Monday.
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Talk of Bristol over performing metrics, WBA underperforming compared to theirs - creating lots - worry that they'll click against us!!!
Obviously the Collins factor could play a part if he has a lot to do.
I think they'll win at home to Watford today.
 
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DT-R

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #89
steve cooper said:
The one thing that concerns me is we are the only team in the race where every opponent has something to play for. Even if Plymouth and Luton lose every game between now and when we play them, Plymouth will still have 9 points to play for, and Luton will have 6.
(46 points has been enough before.)
If they and Hull play like Portsmouth did last night it won't be easy for us. Our coaches will hopefully have an answer to the high energy press.
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Them having to win games isn't necessarily a bad thing. Unlike Pompey who were happy to sit deep and defend for their lives and making it hard to break down. If Plymouth or Luton "must win" they've got to put bodies forward, leaving space at the back for a high press. Burnley are happy to take a 0-0, therefore concede few goals. A "must win" team can't sit and hope for a 0-0.
It'll be no good for our blood pressure, but it should result in goals scored

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Deity

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #90
I don’t but this narrative that it’s not desirable to be playing struggling teams at this time of the season. They are struggling for a reason and their nerves will be as bad as ours. Go with confidence.

Oxford showed Sheff United how dangerous teams who can play with freedom can be ….
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #91
Sick Boy said:
Hull - Draw
Albion - Draw
Plymouth- Win
Luton - Lose
Boro - Draw
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Be tight wouldn't it, if that happened. That would leave us on 68 points
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #92
Deity said:
I don’t but this narrative that it’s not desirable to be playing struggling teams at this time of the season. They are struggling for a reason and their nerves will be as bad as ours. Go with confidence.

Oxford showed Sheff United how dangerous teams who can play with freedom can be ….
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Oxford are just 3 points clear of the bottom 3. Why would they be playing with freedom?
 
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shepardo01

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #93
Otis said:
Be tight wouldn't it, if that happened. That would leave us on 68 points
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Have said to s few people - I think we'll draw too many of the remaining games.
This prediction is pretty much how I see it too.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #94
shepardo01 said:
Have said to s few people - I think we'll draw too many of the remaining games.
This prediction is pretty much how I see it too.
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We haven’t had a draw in ages have we
 

Otis

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #95
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The idea that Plymouth, Luton and Hull will turn into prime Real Madrid is a bit silly.

3 teams need to get relegated and it’s usually the teams that aren’t good enough. All 3 of those teams have pretty bad home records and whilst Luton are getting positive results, they’ve been draws and have only beaten teams around them.

Derby bit us in the backside and that’s because they have a good team for a promoted side and have hired a solid manager in Eustace. They are the form team in and around that area of the pitch.

When we beat Oxford, they were in the relegation battle (still are somewhat) and we won, their home record was a lot stronger than the teams we play - in fact it was better than Sheff U’s at the time, albeit over a shorter period (last 8 home games).
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No-one has mentioned turning into Real Madrid.

Teams at the bottom do often scrap for their lives though and win games through sheer endeavour and putting their bodies on the line and blocking everything etc. It happens year upon year. Always has done. Wins are somehow pulled out of the bag.

I know you said "stuttering" WBA.

Hopefully it's still the case today. Would make life a lot more easy next Friday, for sure.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #96
Hull - Win
Albion - Win
Plymouth- Win
Luton - Draw
Boro - Lose

Think we will do it
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #97
Otis said:
Be tight wouldn't it, if that happened. That would leave us on 68 points
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Yes. I’ve said for a while that I think we’ll end up being a couple of points short.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #98
Mucca Mad Boys said:
As well as a stuttering WBA and a game v Boro on the final day.

It’s well within our control and if we don’t make it, the season can be considered a failure. Not a failure in Lampard’s part personally because what he’s inherited, just as a whole.

Which, to be fair, many of us considered the season over by November.
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I’d still feel very optimistic with Lampard in charge for a whole season and would expect to have a real go.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #99
If it was any other time of the season, I would consider 10 points from the next 4 games to be a realistic target.
 
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Deity

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #100
It’s in our hands with 5 matches to go … if we don’t make it then we can have no complaints.
 

covcity4life

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #101
Deity said:
It’s in our hands with 5 matches to go … if we don’t make it then we can have no complaints.
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Well we can about the start of season. We are relying on auto promotion form to make playoffs. Not ideal and not fair on lampard
 
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Deity

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #102
covcity4life said:
Well we can about the start of season. We are relying on auto promotion form to make playoffs. Not ideal and not fair on lampard
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It’s irrelevant now. It’s in our hands and that’s all we can ask for .
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #103
covcity4life said:
Well we can about the start of season. We are relying on auto promotion form to make playoffs. Not ideal and not fair on lampard
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That's true but I'm sorry we've abandoned a productive period and gone with a different style, I'd at least expect to see some pragmatism in away game's,it won't matter soon as the injuries are coming thick and fast.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #104
Deity said:
It’s irrelevant now. It’s in our hands and that’s all we can ask for .
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I get your point but not sure I agree hundred percent that's all

Like if a marathon runner had to walk first quarter and then sprint to catch up they may be too tired to keep pace with front runners just as they reach finish line kinda thing

I think we will make playoffs but if we don't I'm not gonna be putting it on lampard. Just a shite start that ultimately may cost us.

But hopefully it will be a mute point!
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Apr 12, 2025
  • #105
Sky Blue Pete said:
We haven’t had a draw in ages have we
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Must be over 15 games now?
 
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