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  • Start date Nov 12, 2021
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ccfctommy

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  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #36
Sick Boy said:
Wasn’t it £1 to join for life?
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Yes which was a daft model. A small yearly fee is a good idea IMO
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #37
Grendel said:
The website is suggesting some odd things - merchandise in the future - Sky blue trust scarf anyone?
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‘merch’
‘Limbs’
‘Scenes’
 
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Mcbean

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #38
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘merch’
‘Limbs’
‘Scenes’
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Stone
Island
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #39
Sick Boy said:
Wasn’t it £1 to join for life?
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Yes it was, so charging £2 every year is going to increase the membership, don't think so.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #40
Tried logging in to my account on the website off the back of the email I received but no account exists under my email address.
Wasn’t going to renew anyway but great start.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2021
  • #41
hill83 said:
Tried logging in to my account on the website off the back of the email I received but no account exists under my email address.
Wasn’t going to renew anyway but great start.
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Same here, so won't even bother to re register.
 

mds

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #42
Nicer looking site, new .co.uk address too by the look of it, irrelevant, i dislike and dont trust the trust being for the greater good of the club.
Been a £1 lifetime member for around 10 years, i wont be renewing.

Edit - Is there a new constitution or is the old one still relevant, is it available anywhere?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #43

Mutuals Public Register: Search Results

mutuals.fca.org.uk
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #44
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Same here, so won't even bother to re register.
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Your £1 was for a share not a subscription
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #45
oldfiver said:

Mutuals Public Register: Search Results

mutuals.fca.org.uk
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oldfiver said:
Your £1 was for a share not a subscription
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Well, that's just opened up a rabbit hole.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #46
oldfiver said:
Your £1 was for a share not a subscription
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Philosorapter said:
Well, that's just opened up a rabbit hole.
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A share of what exactly?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #47
And also
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
A share of what exactly?
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https://mutuals.fca.org.uk/Documents/Download/309099
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 14, 2021
  • #48
Apparently, the Sky Blue Trust can be dissolved by it members, contrary to what has been said on here in other threads.
 
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AndreasB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #49
Well its all a bit crap. At a time when the Trust is actively looking to recruit/retain members , they launch a paid option (which a lot of people have been suggesting for years) and the website is just terrible. It actually looks like a scam- the pictures are all generic and the only one of the CBS looks like it was taken in L2 (or a Wasps game) as there is virtually no one there. The affiliate membership nonsense is all over the site. They claim 2733 member in the minutes but 2300 on the site. How many is it? Also, surely now the membership is however many people pay the £2. I doubt that is in 3 figures.

They have removed the Board members profiles so no idea who is in charge. The meeting for October "hasnt yet happened" but the September minutes are all low level stuff or things out of date that are already covered by the Supporters Forum. There are no updates to what the trust is actually doing about anything but Dave Eyles didnt like the trouble after the Derby game.

Completely understand that this stuff is all done in peoples spare time but this is basic stuff and a simple level of professionalism that is permission to play in any area where you are claiming to represent people. I thought all these "sports marketing" people were meant to sort all this out but clearly cant be arsed.
Very poor.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #50
Pretty sure it's just the FSA and a particular ex council boss pulling the strings of it.

The website is a basic Wix website. Not really sure it's a "lengthy" process to build a basic couple of page site in Wix.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #51
AndreasB said:
Well its all a bit crap. At a time when the Trust is actively looking to recruit/retain members , they launch a paid option (which a lot of people have been suggesting for years) and the website is just terrible. It actually looks like a scam- the pictures are all generic and the only one of the CBS looks like it was taken in L2 (or a Wasps game) as there is virtually no one there. The affiliate membership nonsense is all over the site. They claim 2733 member in the minutes but 2300 on the site. How many is it? Also, surely now the membership is however many people pay the £2. I doubt that is in 3 figures.

They have removed the Board members profiles so no idea who is in charge. The meeting for October "hasnt yet happened" but the September minutes are all low level stuff or things out of date that are already covered by the Supporters Forum. There are no updates to what the trust is actually doing about anything but Dave Eyles didnt like the trouble after the Derby game.

Completely understand that this stuff is all done in peoples spare time but this is basic stuff and a simple level of professionalism that is permission to play in any area where you are claiming to represent people. I thought all these "sports marketing" people were meant to sort all this out but clearly cant be arsed.
Very poor.
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“completely understand this is a voluntary run organisation, but why isn’t it professional?”

 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #52
 
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SBAndy

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #53
Nick said:
Pretty sure it's just the FSA and a particular ex council boss pulling the strings of it.

The website is a basic Wix website. Not really sure it's a "lengthy" process to build a basic couple of page site in Wix.
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I am by no means an expert and I managed to put together a Wordpress website in my own time in a couple of days.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #54
Nick said:
Pretty sure it's just the FSA and a particular ex council boss pulling the strings of it.

The website is a basic Wix website. Not really sure it's a "lengthy" process to build a basic couple of page site in Wix.
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Yeah but it might not be as negative as you may think. It is Roger Ellis at the FSA that because of the likely changes agreed with government affiliated trusts need to ensure they have everything in place to be used in the way the government and the fsa envisage.

It was why I attended and asked what is likely to change to ensure that the trust can speak for and Represent sky blues fans in the way envisaged. I’m not sure the FSA fully appreciate how it works. There are clearly some excellent trusts out there

The stuff is around ownership and avoiding some of the issues there have been. Some of the stuff is something we’d want but it’s cloud cuckoo land to think that money people would allow some level of inclusion without sharing of the risks
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #55
I won't be rushing to sign up. Heard too many times from the trust that they're going to change and become more engaging. Not ruling out signing up in the future but as always actions speak louder than words.

At the moment it just seems a new website just cloning whatever the FSA is saying this week, which given the concerns over who represents us on the FSA is perhaps not the best route to take to regain peoples support. The website desperately needed updating but its just stock photos and generic information now, not even any information on the Trust themselves.

Who is actually on the board these days? Seem to recall when there was last changes nobody on here knew any of the board members. Not saying you need to be a poster on here or phoning into CWR every week to be on the board but struck me as a a bit odd.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #56
Liquid Gold said:
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While I always appreciate a Simpsons meme, I’m not sure “they’re using stock photos!!1!1!” Comes under valid criticism.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #57
shmmeee said:
While I always appreciate a Simpsons meme, I’m not sure “they’re using stock photos!!1!1!” Comes under valid criticism.
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It's the 2021 version of Microsoft Clipart.

Their old website was more advanced.
 

Covcraig@bury

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #58
NOPM to the SBT
 
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oldfiver

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #59
The really misleading piece is "Renew your Membership"
There is no "renewal" involved, the £1 share purchase is a life membership
Basically they are asking for a donation of £2 to provide ????
If the current Members do not "donate" it does not diminish the expectations we expected when they signed up
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #60
Nick said:
It's the 2021 version of Microsoft Clipart.

Their old website was more advanced.
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Is their level of webmastery really our key complaint here?

The website is fine. I’m more concerned about whether they’ll have online meetings/voting TBH. Has anyone found out?
 
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AndreasB

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #61
shmmeee said:
Is their level of webmastery really our key complaint here?

The website is fine. I’m more concerned about whether they’ll have online meetings/voting TBH. Has anyone found out?
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If only they had a place where they could put that information.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #62
shmmeee said:
Is their level of webmastery really our key complaint here?

The website is fine. I’m more concerned about whether they’ll have online meetings/voting TBH. Has anyone found out?
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the website is awful - generic images whatever you think are a no go. It’s like it’s been designed by a 5 year old
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #63
That website is shite, regardless of that though, they're an embarrassment to the club.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #64
shmmeee said:
Is their level of webmastery really our key complaint here?

The website is fine. I’m more concerned about whether they’ll have online meetings/voting TBH. Has anyone found out?
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Ermmmmmm online meetings and voting via "webmastery".
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #65
Nick said:
Ermmmmmm online meetings and voting via "webmastery".
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Not really. It’ll be some service they buy in. Highly doubt they’ll have a bunch of full stack devs working on a bespoke system.

The website is standard voluntary org stuff. People on here are ridiculous.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #66
shmmeee said:
Not really. It’ll be some service they buy in. Highly doubt they’ll have a bunch of full stack devs working on a bespoke system.

The website is standard voluntary org stuff. People on here are ridiculous.
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Do you know anything about how websites work?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #67
I don't think peoples issue is that its a free template site. The problem is the lack of content on it. How hard can it be to source a few pictures related to the club or the city to go on there.

But more importantly if you went on there looking for something as basic as who is on the board and how to contact them you'd be out of luck.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #68
shmmeee said:
Not really. It’ll be some service they buy in. Highly doubt they’ll have a bunch of full stack devs working on a bespoke system.

The website is standard voluntary org stuff. People on here are ridiculous.
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I didn't suggest they would or should.

The website is worse than the old one.

That's not just saying it, it really is. They have somebody they have claimed is sorting it and it's taken ages in the making but it's a free basic web builder with stock images.

How can you see them integrating a voting system with the member base?

You don't need a bunch of full time developers. All this does is prove the "we know best" attitude they have always had.
 
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Frostie

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  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #69
Nick said:
I didn't suggest they would or should.

The website is worse than the old one.

That's not just saying it, it really is. They have somebody they have claimed is sorting it and it's taken ages in the making but it's a free basic web builder with stock images.

How can you see them integrating a voting system with the member base?

You don't need a bunch of full time developers. All this does is prove the "we know best" attitude they have always had.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you & others offer assistance with all these kind of things, FOC years ago & they rejected your help?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2021
  • #70
When I signed up it was for life. They're no better than SISU with our seat licences or selling shares.

I WANT MY £1 BACK

NOPM
 
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