Sky blue or yellow? (10 Viewers)

ccfchoi87 · Sep 16, 2016

I stole this from Facebook and the question asked what you would rather out of the following options:

- That Coventry were still owned by sisu and retained the colour sky blue in their identity (yes I know our kit is practically white now but you get what I mean)

- Or we are taken over by wasps but they change our colours to yellow and black

It's a totally hypothetical scenario I was just interested to hear your thoughts so what would you rather?

Cavan O'Doherty · Sep 16, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
I stole this from Facebook and the question asked what you would rather out of the following options:

- That Coventry were still owned by sisu and retained the colour sky blue in their identity (yes I know our kit is practically white now but you get what I mean)

- Or we are taken over by wasps but they change our colours to yellow and black

It's a totally hypothetical scenario I was just interested to hear your thoughts so what would you rather?

I would take playing in yellow and black just to taste a bit of success for a change as I'm only 16. There would be different answers for different generations

stupot07 · Sep 16, 2016

100% Sisu and stay as sky blues

1) sisu aren't going to be around forever
2) changing to yellow and black is huge step in refranchising, it wouldn't be long until our nickname would become wasps
3) sky blue is part of our tradition, brought in by Jimmy hill, we're called tje sky blues our club song is "play up sky blues"
4) getting taken over by wasps doesn't necessarily mean good times will roll. Rugby is their no. 1 priority and you can achieve a lot for significantly cheaper than football. Even wasos biggest fan Italia thinks they would just run us break even in league one if they took us over.
5) , yes things are shit now, but poor feel sorry for us. If we get bought by wasos and they change our kit completely to move in line with theirs, we'd become the laughing stock of football
6) tradition and identity is hugely important

I'd just about stomach it if wasps took over, but if they changed the kit and/or name, thats me done.

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ccfchoi87 · Sep 16, 2016

Cavan O'Doherty said:
I would take playing in yellow and black just to taste a bit of success for a change as I'm only 16. There would be different answers for different generations

I'm only 17 myself but I don't think I could stand changing from sky blue, the kit this year is bad enough

letsallsingtogether · Sep 16, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
I'm only 17 myself but I don't think I could stand changing from sky blue, the kit this year is bad enough

Wouldn't be the first time we changed our kit colour.
Most of the press think that Man City are the Sky Blues
Maybe we could have skyblue as the away kit just like wasps do

Cavan O'Doherty · Sep 16, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
I'm only 17 myself but I don't think I could stand changing from sky blue, the kit this year is bad enough

It would all rest on how long Sisu would want to keep the club for. I couldn't deal with another say 20 years of them clowns. Would still go and watch but I would slowly lose all interest in the club.

fernandopartridge · Sep 17, 2016

letsallsingtogether said:
Wouldn't be the first time we changed our kit colour.
Most of the press think that Man City are the Sky Blues
Maybe we could have skyblue as the away kit just like wasps do

Not really. The odd mention but they're known as 'The Blues'.

Warwickhunt · Sep 17, 2016

stupot07 said:
100% Sisu and stay as sky blues

1) sisu aren't going to be around forever
2) changing to yellow and black is huge step in refranchising, it wouldn't be long until our nickname would become wasps
3) sky blue is part of our tradition, brought in by Jimmy hill, we're called tje sky blues our club song is "play up sky blues"
4) getting taken over by wasps doesn't necessarily mean good times will roll. Rugby is their no. 1 priority and you can achieve a lot for significantly cheaper than football. Even wasos biggest fan Italia thinks they would just run us break even in league one if they took us over.
5) , yes things are shit now, but poor feel sorry for us. If we get bought by wasos and they change our kit completely to move in line with theirs, we'd become the laughing stock of football
6) tradition and identity is hugely important

I'd just about stomach it if wasps took over, but if they changed the kit and/or name, thats me done.

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Sky Blue WASPS has a ring to it

The Great Eastern · Sep 17, 2016

I'm 60 plus and would be quite happy for us to rebrand under the Wasps regime. SISU are taking us nowhere. Yes, I've been a supporter since 1966 and have only ever known us as The Sky Blues but I'm not so stuck in my ways to not take on board a change of image and maybe a change of name. The only thing I'm worried about is a change of location.....

Sky Blue 1987 · Sep 17, 2016

The Great Eastern said:
I'm 60 plus and would be quite happy for us to rebrand under the Wasps regime. SISU are taking us nowhere. Yes, I've been a supporter since 1966 and have only ever known us as The Sky Blues but I'm not so stuck in my ways to not take on board a change of image and maybe a change of name. The only thing I'm worried about is a change of location.....

The only thing you are worried about is a change of location but you are happy for a change of name and image? Our club should and will not ever change it's

Sky Blue 1987 · Sep 17, 2016

...name or image as the history of ccfc and all that goes with it will and has to stay as it has always been! Putting the council, wasps and sisu aside ccfc is our club and franchising it is a ridiculous statement in my opinion!

Sky Blue 1987 · Sep 17, 2016

Also, "would be quite happy for us to rebrand under the wasps regime"...i really hope that you will reply and take that back, considering you have stated you are 60 plus and that shouldn't come from a lifelong city fan...

stevefloyd · Sep 17, 2016

To me it doesnt feel like our club anyway sisu have systematically stripped it of its identity cant imagine how the wimbledon fans must have felt.. admittedly there was inly about 200 of them what we should sing is we want our city back

steve82 · Sep 17, 2016

Imagine if we was to be rebranded then we'd of gone from singers to stingers!!

bawtryneal · Sep 17, 2016

How about some Chinese owners wanted to call us Coventry Tigers ( like the twat at Hull)
Would you swop that for SISU.

theferret · Sep 17, 2016

Is this thread really happening?

Just when I didn't think it could get any worse...

Nick · Sep 17, 2016

theferret said:
Is this thread really happening?

Just when I didn't think it could get any worse...

I think it really is.

The wasps yellow option didn't mention success, it was literally just the owner and kit color.

Considering some (extreme) fans are calling for liquidation so wasps can take us over sums it up.

Captain Dart · Sep 17, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
Or we are taken over by wasps but they change our colours to yellow and black

They won't take over, they're not stupid!

rupert_bear · Sep 17, 2016

When Jimmy Hill was chairman in the late 70s he was seriously looking to change our name from Coventry City to Coventry Talbot. PGS (Puegoet) had taken over from Chrysler and the name Talbot became a brand Puegoet brand name. As PSA sponsored us Hill's idea was to go the whole hog and rename us. If I remember it wasn't universally popular at the time and I think there was resistance from the FA, can't remember the full story. Also at the time he looked towards building a new ground and homed in on the Butts site but it never got out of the starting blocks.
Anyway back to the OP would I change colours, black & gold ? Well I was around when we changed to Sky Blue, don't remember too much fuss at the time. Apart from the Jimmy Hill 5 years and 1987 Sky Blue hasn't been a very lucky or successful colour, one top 6 finish in 47 years !! Gold & black though would have a few on here positively suicidal so with that in mind I'd change.

theferret · Sep 17, 2016

rupert_bear said:
When Jimmy Hill was chairman in the late 70s he was seriously looking to change our name from Coventry City to Coventry Talbot. PGS (Puegoet) had taken over from Chrysler and the name Talbot became a brand Puegoet brand name. As PSA sponsored us Hill's idea was to go the whole hog and rename us. If I remember it wasn't universally popular at the time and I think there was resistance from the FA, can't remember the full story. Also at the time he looked towards building a new ground and homed in on the Butts site but it never got out of the starting blocks.
Anyway back to the OP would I change colours, black & gold ? Well I was around when we changed to Sky Blue, don't remember too much fuss at the time. Apart from the Jimmy Hill 5 years and 1987 Sky Blue hasn't been a very lucky or successful colour, one top 6 finish in 47 years !! Gold & black though would have a few on here positively suicidal so with that in mind I'd change.

When we changed to Sky Blue under Jimmy Hill it was a change from one shade of blue to another, and a change back to a colour we had worn early in our history. The Talbot idea (80s not 70s) was silly, but would not have been nearly as drastic as what is proposed here and would have been temporary given that it was tied to a sponsorship deal.

Changing to yellow - changing the name permanently - you'd effectively have a new club that would be unrecognisable. You'd effectively have a franchise club with no ties to the past. We'd have to ditch the Sky Blue Song, stop referring to ourselves as the SBA, avoid using the term 'come on city'. It would be the end of the club as we know it.

Can't believe I been sucked into this debate

skybluetony176 · Sep 17, 2016

I wouldn't be happy about changing. Not sure it would be that easy either given what happened at Hull not so long ago.

Is there any posters on here who are old enough to remember the Jimmy Hill revolution first hand? If there is how was the change of colours etc. accepted back then? Was it universally accepted? Did we lose any supporters over it? We certainly gained supporters, why do you think that was and was this instantaneously?

rupert_bear · Sep 17, 2016

theferret said:
When we changed to Sky Blue under Jimmy Hill it was a change from one shade of blue to another, and a change back to a colour we had worn early in our history. The Talbot idea (80s not 70s) was silly, but would not have been nearly as drastic as what is proposed here and would have been temporary given that it was tied to a sponsorship deal.

Changing to yellow - changing the name permanently - you'd effectively have a new club that would be unrecognisable. You'd effectively have a franchise club with no ties to the past. We'd have to ditch the Sky Blue Song, stop referring to ourselves as the SBA, avoid using the term 'come on city'. It would be the end of the club as we know it.

Can't believe I been sucked into this debate

Not really, our kit at the time was virtually all white with dark blue trim, we had been blue and white quarters for a while but had changed, so yes in a way you are correct dark blue and white was the official colour but as I said when Hill came it was mainly white,

skybluetony176 · Sep 17, 2016

theferret said:
When we changed to Sky Blue under Jimmy Hill it was a change from one shade of blue to another, and a change back to a colour we had worn early in our history. The Talbot idea (80s not 70s) was silly, but would not have been nearly as drastic as what is proposed here and would have been temporary given that it was tied to a sponsorship deal.

Changing to yellow - changing the name permanently - you'd effectively have a new club that would be unrecognisable. You'd effectively have a franchise club with no ties to the past. We'd have to ditch the Sky Blue Song, stop referring to ourselves as the SBA, avoid using the term 'come on city'. It would be the end of the club as we know it.

Can't believe I been sucked into this debate

You could argue that yellow and black is a colour we've worn in our history, all be it on an away strip. Seemed to be everyone's favourite away strip too until recently.

Still wouldn't be happy about it myself though although I wouldn't be abrasive to having a yellow and black away strip again. With or without wasps ownership. I just liked the yellow and black away kits that we've had in the past.

stupot07 · Sep 17, 2016

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Coventry_City/Coventry_City.htm

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rupert_bear · Sep 17, 2016

skybluetony176 said:
I wouldn't be happy about changing. Not sure it would be that easy either given what happened at Hull not so long ago.

Is there any posters on here who are old enough to remember the Jimmy Hill revolution first hand? If there is how was the change of colours etc. accepted back then? Was it universally accepted? Did we lose any supporters over it? We certainly gained supporters, why do you think that was and was this instantaneously?

The story I believe about the change of colour to Sky Blue was a bit of an accident apparently. JH did initiate a colour change to Coventry blue, which is a known shade of blue from our ribbon making history, the same shade as the blue on ribbon island on the Foleshill Road which is darker than Sky Blue, when the new kit arrived it was a lighter shade, we had to use it and started winning and winning well. The nickname Sky Blues was given by the football reporter at the time Derek Henderson who went under the name of Nemo, not sure which game it was but we hammered someone and Nemo used the headline "magnificent sky blues" and it stuck and Hill being clever capitalised on on it commercially . As for increasing support as ever that came from playing well and a bit of success went from an average of about 7/8000 to 25/30k almost overnight. Get a winning team and watchable team it doesn't matter what colour you play in fans will come.

Warwickhunt · Sep 17, 2016

Sky blue yellow sounds like a reasonable colour

dongonzalos · Sep 17, 2016

The future of the club is the most important thing.
If it was a deal that I could confidently say would save the club.
Then you have to support it.
Kit colour is nothing.
A name change would be very dissapointing. However if it was a case of going under or changing our name. We have changed our name before. So I wouldn't like it but I would accept it. If it secured our future.
I would rather have a future then die basking in our history.

letsallsingtogether · Sep 17, 2016

rupert_bear said:
The story I believe about the change of colour to Sky Blue was a bit of an accident apparently. JH did initiate a colour change to Coventry blue, which is a known shade of blue from our ribbon making history, the same shade as the blue on ribbon island on the Foleshill Road which is darker than Sky Blue, when the new kit arrived it was a lighter shade, we had to use it and started winning and winning well. The nickname Sky Blues was given by the football reporter at the time Derek Henderson who went under the name of Nemo, not sure which game it was but we hammered someone and Nemo used the headline "magnificent sky blues" and it stuck and Hill being clever capitalised on on it commercially . As for increasing support as ever that came from playing well and a bit of success went from an average of about 7/8000 to 25/30k almost overnight. Get a winning team and watchable team it doesn't matter what colour you play in fans will come.

Ah but that Coventry Blue could have been called sky blue?
When I was at school our are teacher used to say
"There is no such colour as sky blue that is a coventry term what shade of blue is the sky it changes daily?"

Irish Sky Blue · Sep 17, 2016

stevefloyd said:
To me it doesnt feel like our club anyway sisu have systematically stripped it of its identity cant imagine how the wimbledon fans must have felt.. admittedly there was inly about 200 of them what we should sing is we want our city back

At least for them it was a fairly quick "death" allowing them to start the resurrection process. Sisu are showing no signs of going and we are like an ailing patient slowly dying with few signs of recovery. If there is an end point to all of this, I wish it would come so that we could start to hope again. With Sisu there is no hope.

Sky Blue Kid · Sep 17, 2016

rupert_bear said:
Not really, our kit at the time was virtually all white with dark blue trim, we had been blue and white quarters for a while but had changed, so yes in a way you are correct dark blue and white was the official colour but as I said when Hill came it was mainly white,

You're wrong Rupert. We were Royal Blue and White thick stripes, and were known as the Bantams. JH changes were minimal(Dark to Sky Blue) and never caused any uproar at that time, and was an innovation for the City of Coventry.
*Edit* Coventry wore Sky Blue at least 1 year before Man City ever did. So we should have "Bragging rights" to the "Sky Blues" name. We've never worn "Quarters" and White with blue trim was for 2 years.

Liquid Gold · Sep 17, 2016

Wasps owners = SISU
Both are hedge fund bastards, we don't need hedge funds involved in the club in any form, have SISU not shown that. Now some of you would sell our soul to be owned by another hedge fund. FFS

chiefdave · Sep 17, 2016

Its hard to say for sure unless it actually happened. Easy to just say yes or no but when it comes down to it feelings would change.

My initial response would be that a change of colour and / or name would be the final straw for me.

trevelfarandwide · Sep 17, 2016

They could stick their re-franchising bollocks up their arses; how any fan could contemplate a total shift in identity and shitting on our heritage is quite amusing actually.

Of course, it's hypothetical, and I'm not about to start keyboard mashing over it. But no, I'd oppose such a proposal with muchos fist-shaking and bellowing.

Wyken Sky Blue · Sep 17, 2016

Cavan O'Doherty said:
I would take playing in yellow and black just to taste a bit of success for a change as I'm only 16. There would be different answers for different generations

Get out.

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Otis · Sep 17, 2016

Warwickhunt said:
Sky blue yellow sounds like a reasonable colour

Yep, all we need to do is to change our shouts from the current 'Come on you yellow-bellied barstards,' to 'Come on you yellows.'

Simple.

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