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Florence1898

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Miss Laura Deering 3 April 2014 Higgs Vs Sisu Court Case - John Brennan Higgs Barrister asks Ms Deering, "The fact of the matter is that Sisu has made stinging criticisms as to the probity of the way in which the trustees conducted themselves during the course of this transaction hasn't it?, Laura Deering asks what does probity mean?, The Judge Mr Justice Leggatt: Honesty Ms Deering!!!! as stated by Steve Chilton in the Red Button 18 April 2014.

In 2005 Ms Deering's boss Joy Seppala, had another High Court Judge question her Honesty, in the TXU Case:
Joy Seppella was Criticised by a High Court Judge in 2005 - here is what he said

Ms Seppala was the least satisfactory of all the witnesses. In making my general comments above, I said that no-one was deliberately lying. But I fear Ms Seppala has a distorted recollection of some events – particularly about what happened at the meetings in New York in January 2005 – and, with the benefit of hindsight, has introduced a "spin" (I am sorry not to be able to find a better word) which suits the Applicants' case. She is also prone to exaggerate – the Respondents would characterise it as lying, but I give her the benefit of the doubt on that – for instance her suggestion (eventually withdrawn by her) that Mr Wallace had "continually" represented to the Applicants that the RCF Banks had a strong direct claim against TXU Corp when in fact he never said that at all. She also recollects (and she may well have believed what she was saying) events which did not, as I conclude, take place (namely a conversation with Mr Wallace "in a small room" and Mr Olin reading and explaining a position paper in New York on 11 January 2005). She is, I am quite sure, an astute and effective business woman. I totally reject her description of herself as naïve. I am quite sure that she was closely involved in developments as the representative of SISU as a Committee Creditor. But she had many other business matters on her mind and when it came to producing her witness statement and giving her oral evidence, her recollection was not, I think, as accurate as she would like to make out.








 

Godiva

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I have lost count ... is it 42nd time?
 

Nick

Administrator
What's the point you are making? Or are you just going to post it and then disappear ;)

Might have to be careful posting things like that, don't want to be threatened with legal action do we ;)
 

RFC

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The point is ALL the parties involved here are to blame but even after the court case I doubt we'll ever find out to what degree.

However I'm told by several "well informed sources" that it's CCC who are panicking right now.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see!
 

Godiva

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May seem a bit off-topic, but when did we last publicly hear from Mr Hoffman? Isn't it time for his annual presenting of investors ready to take over the club?
 

Steve.B50

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If either side is "panicking" and if one has something on the other side why not come out and say what they have?
If the real evidence was out in the public domain then people can make up there own minds and it would save a great deal of money on lawyers.

Its obvious some people must know something or been told of such evidence. Why not get it out to the supporters and stop keeping the only part of this mess who may still be here when it's over in the dark?
 

Ian1779

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May seem a bit off-topic, but when did we last publicly hear from Mr Hoffman? Isn't it time for his annual presenting of investors ready to take over the club?

We might be in for a long wait.... I heard he lost his shiny pound.
 

Godiva

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We might be in for a long wait.... I heard he lost his shiny pound.

Last I heard he'd lost sisu some £20m pounds.
(I know he didn't do it by himself, he was helped by Ranson and Elliott).
 

bigfatronssba

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bigfatronssba

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Last I heard he'd lost sisu some £20m pounds.
(I know he didn't do it by himself, he was helped by Ranson and Elliott).

Ah that old one.

Its not sisu's fault, its the people sisu employ.

Classic.
 

Godiva

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Ah that old one.

Its not sisu's fault, its the people sisu employ.

Classic.

Not 'people' - experts. You know, football experts and business experts.
Oh - and a couple were even Sky Blue fans.

Couldn't get closer to The Dream Team - could it?
 

bigfatronssba

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You need to look at the bigger picture instead of singling out one particular party. Obsession!

I wasn't the one who brought up Elliot, Hoffman and Ranson.

I'm interested in CCFC, right now CCFC are owned by Sisu. They are responsible for the club, no one else.

As much as I would like to pretend that they don't own us I cant. Burying our heads in the sand wont solve anything will it?
 

bigfatronssba

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Not 'people' - experts. You know, football experts and business experts.
Oh - and a couple were even Sky Blue fans.

Couldn't get closer to The Dream Team - could it?

You can give them whatever titles/names you like. They were still ultimately employed by sisu.

Blaming past employees is just cowardly. But I should expect as much, bullies are usually cowards (I'm on about sisu here, not you Godiva!;)).
 

Grendel

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torchomatic

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Where are hoff and elliot? Not hesrd from them for months.

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chiefdave

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Where are hoff and elliot? Not hesrd from them for months.

Elliot purchase the car business back didn't he? Would imagine Hoff has enough to take up his time in his day job. What are they going to do? SISU aren't going to sell to them so they've reached the end of the line really.
 

duffer

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The point is ALL the parties involved here are to blame but even after the court case I doubt we'll ever find out to what degree.

However I'm told by several "well informed sources" that it's CCC who are panicking right now.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see!

Who are your sources RFC? Might they have the initials ML and TF, perhaps.
 

duffer

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Elliot purchase the car business back didn't he? Would imagine Hoff has enough to take up his time in his day job. What are they going to do? SISU aren't going to sell to them so they've reached the end of the line really.

I think SISU should do an independent valuation of CCFC, and Hoff/PH4/Dhinsa should do one too, and then SISU should be forced to sell for the mean of the two values regardless of whether they want to or need to, or whether it even makes sense.

That's how these things work, isn't it? ;)
 

blueflint

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The point is ALL the parties involved here are to blame but even after the court case I doubt we'll ever find out to what degree.

However I'm told by several "well informed sources" that it's CCC who are panicking right now.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see!

you keep posting this shit but never have you backed it up are you going to now
 

Mr T - Sukka!

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I dont know why people dont look at the bigger picture.

SISU have:

Put in and wasted £40m.

Got us relegated from the championship.

Moved us to Northampton.

Openly support never playing in Coventry ever again.

Lost 90% of home fans.

What top owners they are!
 

CovFan

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The point is ALL the parties involved here are to blame but even after the court case I doubt we'll ever find out to what degree.

However I'm told by several "well informed sources" that it's CCC who are panicking right now.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see!

Are the "well informed sources" the noises in your head?
 

wingy

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SISU's common thread ??

That they're not fans of this City and It's people ,finding us a tad on the common side and Difficult.
 

dongonzalos

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What's the point you are making? Or are you just going to post it and then disappear ;)

Might have to be careful posting things like that, don't want to be threatened with legal action do we ;)

Think you will be ok he is quoting court transcripts

Although maybe he would have been better off choosing the judges summing up for the second which illustrates the point he is trying to make
 

Nick

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Think you will be ok he is quoting court transcripts

Although maybe he would have been better off choosing the judges summing up for the second which illustrates the point he is trying to make

Apparently (this isn't me saying you are wrong) that just because it is quoting a court document or what was said, it still leaves people open to libel.
 

magic82ball

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Are the "well informed sources" the noises in your head?
Same well informed sources that told him the new stadium is definitely happening I would imagine. How is the building work coming along with that by the way?
 

dongonzalos

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Apparently (this isn't me saying you are wrong) that just because it is quoting a court document or what was said, it still leaves people open to libel.

Repeating a judges summing up can lead you open to libel?

What is the world coming to?
 

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