As I say, I myself would never talk in this manner. If anyone had said that about a person then I would have taken offence. Sisu isn't a person though it is. It's a business not a real person.
This is why I didn't find it offensive. Not excuses, fact. Sisu isn't a person.
What I am offended by however is the assumption that anyone who excuses what the poster said are no better than the person who said it.
Torch would likely find far more offensive material on other forums/comments sections. You can't get on with everyone and agree with everything everyone says. I personally wouldn't have made that comment, but it's also difficult and overboard to lay into someone who I've never met, in a public arena.
I would never, ever say anything like that and I wouldn't be expecting anyone else to make it either, but it has to be taken in context. It wasn't aimed at any individual or even for that matter any human being. It's hard to even identify what Sisu are. Just a business controlling investments.
So can we get back to the original content Personally I'm not bowled over by the news yet as I haven't been the last 11venty billion times they have released similar statements however at least it appears they could actually have made contact with the council about it.
Lets get the facts here, the article has not stated that sisu are in talks to buy half the arena, it said they are in talks about getting their hands on other income streams ie car park and catering money.
Absolute crap journalism with a headline grabber without any facts.
How much more BS will people believe from sisu/cet.
Lets get the facts here, the article has not stated that sisu are in talks to buy half the arena, it said they are in talks about getting their hands on other income streams ie car park and catering money.
Absolute crap journalism with a headline grabber without any facts.
How much more BS will people believe from sisu/cet.
exactly what i was pointing out in an earlier post. just trying to get something for nothing while trying to pay lower rent at the same time.......SISU OUT
Sometimes i agree with him, sometimes i don't , but i will never judge him like you, just because you disagree with him sometimes.
Get a fecking backbone and argue with the old cantankerous sod if you dont agree, but don't just dismiss him like he's not one of us, because like it or not , he supports the same team as us, and because of this i regard him as one of us, we need to stick together more than ever before.
I agree, Rev. Torchy is one of us, agree with his point of view or not.
Back to the point of this thread (or nearly the point). I am surprised by Sisu's apparent change of mind. They used to be the tough guys with the 'we are the only game in town, so agree with us or else' attitude. Joy (I'm tough so don't mess with me) Seppola is now all sweetness and light and happy to be in 'constructive and transparent' talks with the council and ACL. This is a change on a scale with Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus. Could it be that Sisu are now running scared? Maybe there is some truth in the rumour that Chinese businessmen could be interested in CCFC, the Ricoh and the surrounding area.
Perhaps Sisu know that there are some big hitters in town and they are trying to get their hands on the Ricoh before they are pushed aside. A case of the bullies being afraid of being bullied.
I have to say that I know no-one in CCFC, ACL, the council or anyone else associated with this mess. I have no inside information. I just wonder at the reason for Sisu's Damascene conversion.
Whatever the reason for Sisu's new attitude, I remain to be convinced that it is because they have suddenly become Sky Blue supporters. They continue to be what they have always been - a hedge fund intent on making as much money as they can for their investors, regardless of the effect on CCFC.
This, I believe, is not a change of attitude, but a change of tactics.
RICOH Arena joint-owners the Higgs Charity have confirmed that Coventry City chiefs have opened talks regarding the club’s option to buy back half of the stadium.
But the Sky Blues have been told that before they go any further they must provide proof of a sensible business plan and, crucially, reveal exactly who City’s owners are.
Similarly, the Higgs Charity will not entertain doing business with City until there is greater transparency.
Clerk to the Trustees, Peter Knatchbull-Hugessen, said: “Every statement made by the charity or the council comes back to the same thing which is first; we have got to know who the people are – and we are going to be tougher than the Football League.
“And secondly, we want to know that they are running a sensible operation that has a sensible business plan before we go anywhere. And the chairman has acknowledged that.”
The City chairman admitted to a national newspaper: “My difficulty is that I have to overcome a lot of hurdles for people to gain confidence in us. The first stage towards gaining credibility is putting our own house in order to prove we can run a football club.
"The second thing is: Have we got the funds?
“When I have those funds – and we are quite near that at present – then I will approach the Higgs Trust and Coventry City Council. We have an on-going dialogue with the Higgs Trust. We have had a very positive meeting with them.”
RICOH Arena joint-owners the Higgs Charity have confirmed that Coventry City chiefs have opened talks regarding the club’s option to buy back half of the stadium.
But the Sky Blues have been told that before they go any further they must provide proof of a sensible business plan and, crucially, reveal exactly who City’s owners are.
Similarly, the Higgs Charity will not entertain doing business with City until there is greater transparency.
Clerk to the Trustees, Peter Knatchbull-Hugessen, said: “Every statement made by the charity or the council comes back to the same thing which is first; we have got to know who the people are – and we are going to be tougher than the Football League.
“And secondly, we want to know that they are running a sensible operation that has a sensible business plan before we go anywhere. And the chairman has acknowledged that.”
The City chairman admitted to a national newspaper: “My difficulty is that I have to overcome a lot of hurdles for people to gain confidence in us. The first stage towards gaining credibility is putting our own house in order to prove we can run a football club.
"The second thing is: Have we got the funds?
“When I have those funds – and we are quite near that at present – then I will approach the Higgs Trust and Coventry City Council. We have an on-going dialogue with the Higgs Trust. We have had a very positive meeting with them.”
Is it not a really good time for both sides to release what is actually happening.
All these rumours and counter rumours are not helpful
all we want to know is the truth,