Grendel
Well-Known Member
I think you should check how much of a bad run Dowie was on.
No I don't, the club was in a mess, but the facts are the team were sat in mid table.
They then went on a bit of a bad run, Ranson (part of Sisu) decided to sack Dowie and get Coleman in.
Forest, not sure as I do not know their situation in much detail so it would be wrong of me to comment.
Leicester, no.
Whos to say they wont be like this with whatever owners we have. They will probably refuse to work with anyone unless its mother teresa.
Regarding the strip clubs it just shows they are poking their pointy little noses in in people business. Some bit of skirt on the council probably got on her high horse saying women are being exploited blah blah blah.
No I don't, the club was in a mess, but the facts are the team were sat in mid table.
They then went on a bit of a bad run, Ranson (part of Sisu) decided to sack Dowie and get Coleman in.
How are Leicester not well run, they have just bought their own stadium and will probably make the playoffs?
The club has just announced losses of nearly £30m and are in debt to their owners of nearly £100m.
Was Dowie on a bad run at the time?
Coleman should have gone after the debacle at Charlton. In hindsight if we had been relegated that season, we would probably be in a better position now. I seem to remember Ranson was being lauded by the majority though, as though he was some sort of demigod.
The club has just announced losses of nearly £30m and are in debt to their owners of nearly £100m.
How much will they make from promotion?
The majority of clubs are in masses of debt, and millions disappears into running the of clubs.
I'm not saying that team was any good, infact it was crap. Yet it is still miles better than what we have now, after having spent £45m on the club.
The club has just announced losses of nearly £30m and are in debt to their owners of nearly £100m.
It's not difficult. We all want the best for our club!! Bar no one. Acl CCC will no longer deal with sisu they don't trust them. If this is fact then fisher can spout whatver he likes, we can argue over who has the biggest penis and who supports the team and who doesn't but it won't change anything. The only sustainable future for ccfc is to have access to as much revenue as possible, acl CCC will not negotiate with sisu cause of sisu so what is the only answer?
If that happens then I for one would be very cross!!I dont they they will ever be willing to negotiate with anyone though thats the problem.
And the majority of clubs are badly run.
Ones with assets, teams doing well etc can handle that financial mismanagement (at least for the time being)
However we don't have that luxury. The only way this club can get out of this mess is by being run properly.
How many other clubs in the football league have put £45m over 6/7 years into their clubs to get nothing back? The money wasted on poor players & managers has been dreadful though and has cost us big time.
It is refreshing to have Waggot at the club who seems to have his head firmly screwed on.
I think you should check how much of a bad run Dowie was on.
Cost agreed to buy Higgs shares was below the £6.5m Higgs received for them - but hell never let the facts get in the way of a blind rant
Your own quote above, does this or does this not say the 24 million figure was proposed to Fisher for the revenue rights and was dismissed instantly. These are the same ones that we sold for 6 million?Have just spoken to Tim Fisher and he has told me that this number was one that was proposed by Daniel Gidney many months ago and has formed no part of the current negotiations. It was a number that obviously was dismissed out of hand by the club and has never been mentioned again by either party so it is really a red herring.
Clarified?
I may have my facts mixed up, I was referring to this
www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/26855-We-have-to-pay-acl-£24m-for-revenue-rights
Your own quote above, does this or does this not say the 24 million figure was proposed to Fisher for the revenue rights and was dismissed instantly. These are the same ones that we sold for 6 million?
I fail to see where I have ranted, if I have got something wrong or mixed up then I apologise
I may have my facts mixed up, I was referring to this
www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/26855-We-have-to-pay-acl-£24m-for-revenue-rights
Your own quote above, does this or does this not say the 24 million figure was proposed to Fisher for the revenue rights and was dismissed instantly. These are the same ones that we sold for 6 million?
The 24 million was from Daniel Gidney (who is no longer at ACL) many months ago and was not in any way a formal discusion or negotiation and certainly not part of the current negotiations. The 50% Higgs Share was/is available to CCFC and a price was agreed in the signed heads of terms agreement between SISU and Charity last May but it was never followed up by SISU.
Apologies if I sounded rude and accused you incorrectly but there are too many on here who spout opinions as facts to back up their personal theories - the fate of our club is really in the balance and yet some feel its more important to score clever dick points rather than deal with the very serious facts.
Facts are ACL have offered CCFC around £250k in revenue (£100k f&b profits and £150k car parking) and also offered to cross invoice the f&b turnover (£1m) for FFP purposes for CCFC so they would be receiving significant revenue for their £400k rent - oh and a Premier League standard ground as well.
You haven't. You have raised questions to the ACL Trust -- never a wise move.
It's not difficult. We all want the best for our club!! Bar no one. Acl CCC will no longer deal with sisu they don't trust them. If this is fact then fisher can spout whatver he likes, we can argue over who has the biggest penis and who supports the team and who doesn't but it won't change anything. The only sustainable future for ccfc is to have access to as much revenue as possible, acl CCC will not negotiate with sisu cause of sisu so what is the only answer?
A very disappointing statement from someone supposedly on the clubs side.
We have been royally stitched up by the council for years and they have definitely been far far less supportive than many other councils. Rather than continuously ramming this down their throat and creating national awareness of this all you are interested in is doing their bidding.
And which part of the statement is incorrect?
A very disappointing statement from someone supposedly on the clubs side.
We have been royally stitched up by the council for years and they have definitely been far far less supportive than many other councils. Rather than continuously ramming this down their throat and creating national awareness of this all you are interested in is doing their bidding.
And which part of the statement is incorrect?
I always believed that a successful ccfc was in the best interests of both acl and sisu, so sense would prevail and an agreement be reached. But if the parties wanted a resolution they could have found one ages ago. For the first time in this dispute I am becoming seriously concerned that liquidation is possible. The pro/anti acl/sisu stuff in this thread, like so many threads beforehand, serves no purpose. City fans need to demand that acl-sisu get this sorted now.
I always believed that a successful ccfc was in the best interests of both acl and sisu, so sense would prevail and an agreement be reached. But if the parties wanted a resolution they could have found one ages ago. For the first time in this dispute I am becoming seriously concerned that liquidation is possible. The pro/anti acl/sisu stuff in this thread, like so many threads beforehand, serves no purpose. City fans need to demand that acl-sisu get this sorted now.
City got themselves in trouble years ago. Sold the family jewels. They made the wrong choices.
Your little addition at the end ".. oh and a Premier League standard ground as well" spoke volumes, a clear indication of which side of the fence you stand, despite your protestations to the contrary. Almost everything I see you post is done to try to contradict or undermine those that are arguing against the position of the council/ACL.
If that is your position fine, lay your cards on the table, but let's not play games with this phony 'I trust neither side' nonsense. It just doesn't wash.
Your little addition at the end ".. oh and a Premier League standard ground as well" spoke volumes, a clear indication of which side of the fence you stand, despite your protestations to the contrary. Almost everything I see you post is done to try to contradict or undermine those that are arguing against the position of the council/ACL.
If that is your position fine, lay your cards on the table, but let's not play games with this phony 'I trust neither side' nonsense. It just doesn't wash.
Your little addition at the end ".. oh and a Premier League standard ground as well" spoke volumes, a clear indication of which side of the fence you stand, despite your protestations to the contrary. Almost everything I see you post is done to try to contradict or undermine those that are arguing against the position of the council/ACL.
If that is your position fine, lay your cards on the table, but let's not play games with this phony 'I trust neither side' nonsense. It just doesn't wash.
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