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  • Start date Dec 5, 2016
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #246
Grendel said:
So you lied - fair enough
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No lie. You're definitely to dumb to work it out for yourself.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #247
skybluetony176 said:
Most likely.
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Mmmm...maybe so.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #248
torchomatic said:
You believe there are people working for SISU (and maybe even CCC) on here?
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Surely it would be more far-fetched to believe there weren't
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #249
Brylowes said:
Surely it would be more far-fetched to believe there weren't
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Exactly. From all sides.

Especially when one let slip details from an SCG meeting not that long ago before they were published. In fact they pretty much quoted something that TF said word for word from the published minutes before they went up on the clubs site the very next day. And before grendull starts no it wasn't someone from the trust.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #250
Brylowes said:
Surely it would be more far-fetched to believe there weren't
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Maybe so. There are a few on both sides who are a little OTT.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #251
skybluetony176 said:
Exactly. From all sides.

Especially when one let slip details from an SCG meeting not that long ago before they were published. In fact they pretty much quoted something that TF said word for word from the published minutes before they went up on the clubs site the very next day. And before grendull starts no it wasn't someone from the trust.
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In this day and age they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they weren't keeping an eye
On social media, but while keeping an eye" why not try too steer opinions one way
Or the other,
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #252
torchomatic said:
Maybe so. There are a few on both sides who are a little OTT.
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I think they would be the type who watch a lot, but post little just popping up now and then
On the more political threads, I think Rfc could be undercover for the Special Branch.
He's definitely special that one.
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #253
Brylowes said:
I think they would be the type who watch a lot, but post little just popping up now and then
On the more political threads, I think Rfc could be undercover for the Special Branch.
He's definitely special that one.
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Special Branch wouldn't stand out like a sore thumb, so that rules RFC out.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #254
Grendel said:
What has that to do with anything? Despite the widely held view on here fisher is not stupid. He and waggott would have looked at other clubs who've moved and realised the impact that would have on support.

Every game at a 70 mile round trip would decimate attendances. The exact reference was classic fisher "they will come" it's a throw away gallery remark that would have had no impact when budget planning.
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Awwww come on Grendel woo knows woo made a ickle bickle bowwock don't woo
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #255
Brylowes said:
But he says if the team doesn't perform it'll be 3000 so they budgeted
For the worst case scenario.
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The team entertained and it was worse than the worse case scenario
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #256
Moff said:
Special Branch wouldn't stand out like a sore thumb, so that rules RFC out.
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Yeah but these are the 'really "Special Branch"
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #257
dongonzalos said:
The team entertained and it was worse than the worse case scenario
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I know that, but we're talking about what they budgeted for.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #258
Brylowes said:
I know that, but we're talking about what they budgeted for.
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I think they got a shock a budgeted fir far more fans
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #259
dongonzalos said:
I think they got a shock a budgeted fir far more fans
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They didnt
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #260
skybluetony176 said:
No lie. You're definitely to dumb to work it out for yourself.
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No one else can either and you haven't the balls to name one - fair enough
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #261
skybluetony176 said:
Exactly. From all sides.

Especially when one let slip details from an SCG meeting not that long ago before they were published. In fact they pretty much quoted something that TF said word for word from the published minutes before they went up on the clubs site the very next day. And before grendull starts no it wasn't someone from the trust.
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Who was it anyone? Not Tony as he seems reluctant to name names.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #262
Grendel said:
They didnt
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Pantomime season great
Oh yes they did
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #263
Grendel said:
Who was it anyone? Not Tony as he seems reluctant to name names.
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Think that was oldfiver wasn't it?
I remember when whoever it was posted what they posted. I thought what a really bizzare thing to post and where had that come from.
Then about a week later the meetings came out and it all made sense.
I assume old fiver was at the meeting and agreed with the stance taken by TF. Who seemed very rattled by the idea of the fans asking to meet to discus if they could take over the club.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #264
Grendel said:
Who was it anyone? Not Tony as he seems reluctant to name names.
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Someone else actually picked up on it (not that you would have noticed with your head stuck up your arse like it is) at the time it was posted. The other poster not being a member of the SCG although probably close enough to someone who is that they can get a sneaky peak at the SCG notes. I only picked up on what they were pointing out the next day when the official minutes went up on the clubs site, the penny dropped so I went back and double checked what was originally posted and sure enough it was pretty much word for word to a comment attributed to TF in the SCG note's.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #265
skybluetony176 said:
Someone else actually picked up on it (not that you would have noticed with your head stuck up your arse like it is) at the time it was posted. The other poster not being a member of the SCG although probably close enough to someone who is that they can get a sneaky peak at the SCG notes. I only picked up on what they were pointing out the next day when the official minutes went up on the clubs site, the penny dropped so I went back and double checked what was originally posted and sure enough it was pretty much word for word to a comment attributed to TF in the SCG note's.
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Are you a detective Tony?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 7, 2016
  • #266
Grendel said:
Who was it anyone? Not Tony as he seems reluctant to name names.
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Jan wasn't it?
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #267
Grendel said:
Who was it anyone? Not Tony as he seems reluctant to name names.
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Try doing some research Grenduffy, instead of making the snide "Link" remarks.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #268
Sky Blue Kid said:
Try doing some research Grenduffy, instead of making the snide "Link" remarks.
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Didn't you want someone to find the Tim Fisher video for you yesterday? Just sayin'.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #269
Anyone from organisation putting any effort whatsoever into counter intelligence on Sky Blues Talk is an idiot.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #270
torchomatic said:
Didn't you want someone to find the Tim Fisher video for you yesterday? Just sayin'.
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Only because I couldn't find it.
How many times do you see me ask for links compared to Grenduffy?....Just sayin!
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #271
shmmeee said:
Anyone from organisation putting any effort whatsoever into counter intelligence on Sky Blues Talk is an idiot.
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Looking for any type of intelligence some days would be an impossible task. Plenty of idiots though :cyclops:
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #272
shmmeee said:
Anyone from organisation putting any effort whatsoever into counter intelligence on Sky Blues Talk is an idiot.
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #273
Brylowes said:
No it's F&B he says they received £72.000 for F&B and £3000 parking, goes on to
Say it's 15% but would get 100% at the butts on our match day.
Is it £150.000 p/a rent ? Because if it is you would have to say that's a cracking deal.
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Not quite right is it. Currently they get the net profit split 50:50 which equates to 15% of the turnover. For which they bear no costs at all

Then next breath it is a HR or in New stadium we got 100's of thousands....... yes but you got 100's of thousands of costs too.

Got to compare like with like.

Oh and SCMP is based on net after deduction of direct costs
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #274
oldskyblue58 said:
Not quite right is it. Currently they get the net profit split 50:50 which equates to 15% of the turnover. For which they bear no costs at all

Then next breath it is a HR or in New stadium we got 100's of thousands....... yes but you got 100's of thousands of costs too.

Got to compare like with like.

Oh and SCMP is based on net after deduction of direct costs
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So what are those OSB because it looks like SCMP is currently 40%of turnover?
SCMP having shrunk by £200 K per an over the last two seasons.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #275
The figure for SCMP would be sales less (cost buying the goods for resale and the direct wages) wingy

Of course we now franchise a lot of stuff out so what counts is the share of net profit we have agreed to. ........ that's not the same necessarily as the above definition.

We could've easily got projections wrong and restricted budget further than expected
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #276
oldskyblue58 said:
Currently they get the net profit split 50:50 which equates to 15% of the turnover.
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That seems a very low profit margin for this type of thing, even before you consider the prices at the Ricoh are higher than anywhere else.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #277
It may be CD but the point is the comparison fisher keeps repeating is misdirection at its finest
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #278
oldskyblue58 said:
It may be CD but the point is the comparison fisher keeps repeating is misdirection at its finest
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To me it looks like we'd have to grow a further £3M of turnover to grow Player budget anywhere close to 60%,so another 20,000 on the gates and a £1M sponsorship deal, or build a ground £25M with a ceiling of of up to 20k fill it every week get said sponsorship and sell gazillion pies every match, then pay for it?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2016
  • #279
chiefdave said:
That seems a very low profit margin for this type of thing, even before you consider the prices at the Ricoh are higher than anywhere else.
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Compass needs to have its (franchise ) loans repaid out of it!
 
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