Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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More chance of Manchester City sacking Guardiola for Russel Slade. Ridiculous shout.
We had a chance with Dale Evans.
Alternatives won't manifest themselves until there's a viable out looking likely to happen.Agreed. No point saying out, unless you know the alternative.
Our owners have not changed their original objectives or their willingness to act in the same manner again. Their current stance it appears to me, is to do nothing, provide only funding of last resort and to rely on the manager & team over achieving. The only major thing to change in the last 5 years is their own PR, largely by saying nothing.
You mean they are arms length owners that allow the club to run itself and live within its means?
Take away the history (hard I know), but isn't that the model that all clubs should follow? What do you want them to do, throw money at a new Operation Premiership? That would be madness, wouldn't it? Like it or not, we seem relatively stable right now, in a division full of clubs that are teetering on the edge. I say we stay the course.
Accusations of 'apologist' inbound of course, but you cannot say that were entirely responsible for our downward spiral (they were), but then say they are not responsible in any way for undoing that damage. MR wouldn't agree with that, he seems to speak well of the owners (and not just in a 'well, of course he would' way); clearly there is a decent relationship there.
A few years ago we were losing at home to Forest Green in League 2. We had no deal to play at the Ricoh and the place could not have felt less like home; we were set to be kicked out of AH by Wasps and our academy become homeless and the future of Ryton was in doubt and it was falling apart. All as a result of their mismanagement, but they have fixed a lot of that have they not, but you say the only thing to change in 5 years is PR? I'd say the change is bigger than that.
I say we just enjoy this period of stability and hope lessons have been well and truly learned, because the ownership isn't changing anytime soon.
the club isn’t anywhere near close to living in its means
How come this hasn’t come out yet?Yes, the 23s player they sold is to pay off debts to the same club from last season
How come this hasn’t come out yet?
Saw thatIt’s done just not been announced - we trialled another goalkeeper in the 23s on Monday
You mean they are arms length owners that allow the club to run itself and live within its means?
Take away the history (hard I know), but isn't that the model that all clubs should follow? What do you want them to do, throw money at a new Operation Premiership? That would be madness, wouldn't it? Like it or not, we seem relatively stable right now, in a division full of clubs that are teetering on the edge. I say we stay the course.
Accusations of 'apologist' inbound of course, but you cannot say that were entirely responsible for our downward spiral (they were), but then say they are not responsible in any way for undoing that damage. MR wouldn't agree with that, he seems to speak well of the owners (and not just in a 'well, of course he would' way); clearly there is a decent relationship there.
A few years ago we were losing at home to Forest Green in League 2. We had no deal to play at the Ricoh and the place could not have felt less like home; we were set to be kicked out of AH by Wasps and our academy become homeless and the future of Ryton was in doubt and it was falling apart. All as a result of their mismanagement, but they have fixed a lot of that have they not, but you say the only thing to change in 5 years is PR? I'd say the change is bigger than that.
I say we just enjoy this period of stability and hope lessons have been well and truly learned, because the ownership isn't changing anytime soon.
And of course as you say, as we accrue interest (and take money out to repay if possible) then our glass ceiling is lower than it necessarily needs to be, even with a 'self sustaining' strategy.By taking no action the owners force the club to be self sustaining. There is no great financial management strategy to it. Its not a course of action I have ever argued against.You have to accept however that this places in all likelihood a glass ceiling on any great progression.
And of course as you say, as we accrue interest (and take money out to repay if possible) then our glass ceiling is lower than it necessarily needs to be, even with a 'self sustaining' strategy.
We should be campaigning for a much lower or zero interest rate
Pretty sure you’d be surprisedThere is zero chance of that happening as OSB says the motivation for the owners is not to look at investment to create success - success may happen or it may not - but their focus is on returns from the monies in the club that are owed.
High interest rates support the strategy.
This would have been an opportunity for all sorts of reasons for the club to be supported with relative conservative levels of monies to attempt a top 6 movement or at least work to that in the next two seasons. This would not even be on the agenda to discuss in the boardroom
Pretty sure you’d be surprised
Pretty sure you’d be surprised
We wanted to meet with Db but couldn’t get a date sorted. Next supporters forum is pretty soon and of courseWhen is your next meeting with the club Pete, will you be taking questions nearer the time?
What would you want to ask her?Can’t you get Sepalla with respect to Boddy he’s her oil rag.
What would you want to ask her?
That is an interesting suggestion.We should be campaigning for a much lower or zero interest rate
An expert would need to answer thoseThat is an interesting suggestion.
I agree with your point at the top of the thread that In / Out may not reflect the nuance in the position that some supporters hold although I guess In / Out poll results are still informative in themselves.
I don't think the 'In' votes are indicative of a massive swing of opinion from the boos previously heard at Wembley that were aimed at Joy when the cameras turned to her and she came up on the giant screens to us hearing 'We love you SISU, we do' reverberating around Singers Corner anytime soon.
I do think some fans felt that the ownership protests weren't effective in applying the desired change and that ultimately the football club wasn't deriving any benefit from the protests even when those fans bought into the idea of a change of ownership.
These may well be stupid questions but I'm going to ask them anyway.
Does the process of building up a growing amount of interest debt in a business through a high rate of interest provide any less tangible benefits to the creditor owed that debt beyond the potential ability now and in the future to realise that interest debt?
Was the outcome of the 2013 administration process likely to have been affected by who the largest creditor was, even if the largest debt owed was on money put into the club or interest earned on that money?
Can a growing amount of interest debt owed to a creditor convey a benefit to that creditor in terms of retention of control of the business through an administration process through the ability to write off / agree to restructure more of that debt than any other bidders would or could and afford that creditor a stronger ability to dictate terms?
One simple question how much does it cost a year from Mark Robins to the tea lady to run the whole business of Coventry City Football Club that question could be put to Dave Boddy but I suspect it would be answered with waffle.What would you want to ask her?
They'd point you towards the accounts.One simple question how much does it cost a year from Mark Robins to the tea lady to run the whole business of Coventry City Football Club that question could be put to Dave Boddy but I suspect it would be answered with waffle.
They'd point you towards the accounts.
One simple question how much does it cost a year from Mark Robins to the tea lady to run the whole business of Coventry City Football Club that question could be put to Dave Boddy but I suspect it would be answered with waffle.
Why though? Different faces, same answers - Boddy just says whatever Sepalla and SISU tell him to
HarshOf course. Boddy has had an easy ride as we’ve over achieved but in the end he’s a glorified commercial manager whose not really anything but a friendly voice to the media - if he’s paid more than £30 grand a year it’s wasted money
Overachieved? Why all the calls for Taxis then?Of course. Boddy has had an easy ride as we’ve over achieved but in the end he’s a glorified commercial manager whose not really anything but a friendly voice to the media - if he’s paid more than £30 grand a year it’s wasted money
Harsh
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