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SISU hoodwinked by fans (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter KersleyDigs
  • Start date Dec 6, 2013
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KersleyDigs

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  • Dec 6, 2013
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A consortium of 30, 000 Coventry City fans have signed a pledge to put forward £200 each to buy the £6m lease hold at the ricoh Arena. This offer has been accepted by Coventry City council and the notorious London hedge fund SISU capital appear to have been brilliantly hoodwinked by the fans.

SISU's prime target throughout this whole sorry saga has been to acquire the ricoh arena in a less than proper manner and they are now faced with the prospect of losing it to a interested party, one they never dreamed might snatch the asset from right under their noses.

A statement from the fan based new owners of the ricoh arena says; "we have made our position clear, we want the football team we support in Coventry." They added; "SISU are welcome to bring the club back here to play rent free and put matchday revenues towards the team. If their sole motive was the arena, not the club then i'm afraid that is no longer an option for them. Simply put, they can bring the club back to the fans or the fans will bring a new club to the ricoh."

SISU capital are now left with the prospect of owning a supporter less club hemorrhaging money based in Northampton with no prospect of buying the ricoh. The only real option they have is to sell the golden share as it is now their only remaining asset, albeit with a huge drop in value and without a fanbase or home.

The return of the team to the ricoh would please the fans, but would certainly not pave the way for a return on SISU's "40m" investment in the club. It seems that the hedge fund have little option left but to cut their losses and go.

;-)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #2
Isn't 6 million less than it is worth? Disgrace to the tax payer.
 
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Monners

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #3
KersleyDigs said:
A consortium of 30, 000 Coventry City fans have signed a pledge to put forward £200 each to buy the £6m lease hold at the ricoh Arena. This offer has been accepted by Coventry City council and the notorious London hedge fund SISU capital appear to have been brilliantly hoodwinked by the fans.

SISU's prime target throughout this whole sorry saga has been to acquire the ricoh arena in a less than proper manner and they are now faced with the prospect of losing it to a interested party, one they never dreamed might snatch the asset from right under their noses.

A statement from the fan based new owners of the ricoh arena says; "we have made our position clear, we want the football team we support in Coventry." They added; "SISU are welcome to bring the club back here to play rent free and put matchday revenues towards the team. If their sole motive was the arena, not the club then i'm afraid that is no longer an option for them. Simply put, they can bring the club back to the fans or the fans will bring a new club to the ricoh."

SISU capital are now left with the prospect of owning a supporter less club hemorrhaging money based in Northampton with no prospect of buying the ricoh. The only real option they have is to sell the golden share as it is now their only remaining asset, albeit with a huge drop in value and without a fanbase or home.

The return of the team to the ricoh would please the fans, but would certainly not pave the way for a return on SISU's "40m" investment in the club. It seems that the hedge fund have little option left but to cut their losses and go.

;-)
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Why have you posted this?
 

Covstu

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #4
Nick said:
Isn't 6 million less than it is worth? Disgrace to the tax payer.
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So true.........

On the other hand i would put £200 in if it got the club back to us but i think this would make the divide even further, how could SISU negotiate with 30K angry, emotional fans!
 
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KersleyDigs

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #5
Monners said:
Why have you posted this?
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Because I am really bored at work, daydreaming about f*cking SISU over ;-)
 
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KersleyDigs

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #6
4-6m is the figure being thrown around for the leasehold NOT freehold
 
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Sky Blue Dal

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #7
Nick said:
Isn't 6 million less than it is worth? Disgrace to the tax payer.
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If this is true... then to be fair the majority of the 30,000 fans are probably the main tax payers. Since when has SISU contributed to the tax system?

Always late on there tax return... hence the embargo.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #8
we couldnt get 10,000 of them to spend 200 quid on a season ticket mate
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #9
Sky Blue Dal said:
If this is true... then to be fair the majority of the 30,000 fans are probably the main tax payers. Since when has SISU contributed to the tax system?
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I am pretty sure SISU pay tax...
 
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Monners

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #10
KersleyDigs said:
Because I am really bored at work, daydreaming about f*cking SISU over ;-)
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Me too, fair enough mate. Having read through again it has allowed me to live some kind of dream (short lived admitedly)
 
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Sky Blue Dal

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #11
KersleyDigs said:
Because I am really bored at work, daydreaming about f*cking SISU over ;-)
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Ok so not true!!!

oh well!!

Was wondering where we got the 30,000 fanatic fans from.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #12
Nick said:
Isn't 6 million less than it is worth? Disgrace to the tax payer.
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leasehold, not free hold.

couldn't see it happening any way and if sh1tsu do get hoodwinked i think they would just throw the club to the dogs
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #13
AndreasB said:
we couldnt get 10,000 of them to spend 200 quid on a season ticket mate
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with good reason
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #14
skybluetony176 said:
leasehold, not free hold.

couldn't see it happening any way and if sh1tsu do get hoodwinked i think they would just throw the club to the dogs
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Yes, isn't the leasehold worth more?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #15
Nick said:
Yes, isn't the leasehold worth more?
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no! how can the right to lease something for 40 odd years be worth than owning something lock stock and barrel until the point when you want to sell it.

the £6million Les Reid keeps going on about is for the leasehold, thats what ACL currently own, thats all the club needs to own to gain FULL access to all revenue streams available to the sight, its sh1tsu that need the freehold for the benefit of their investors, the freehold has no extra benefit for the club other than being a mortgagable asset.

do keep up
 
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Monners

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  • Dec 6, 2013
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AndreasB said:
we couldnt get 10,000 of them to spend 200 quid on a season ticket mate
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Sixfields doesn't hold 10k though. I suppose the 2.5k without seats could stand on the hill though
 

Nick

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #17
skybluetony176 said:
no! how can the right to lease something for 40 odd years be worth than owning something lock stock and barrel until the point when you want to sell it.

the £6million Les Reid keeps going on about is for the leasehold, thats what ACL currently own, thats all the club needs to own to gain FULL access to all revenue streams available to the sight, its sh1tsu that need the freehold for the benefit of their investors, the freehold has no extra benefit for the club other than being a mortgagable asset.

do keep up
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What are you talking about?

The council valuation was 6.4 million, which is more than 6 million that this imaginary story would have purchased it for. Therefore, they bought it for less than it was worth....

Do keep up.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #18
Monners said:
Sixfields doesn't hold 10k though. I suppose the 2.5k without seats could stand on the hill though
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yep great idea - get used to it when we draw a prem team in the Cup 3rd round.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #19
Nick said:
What are you talking about?

The council valuation was 6.4 million, which is more than 6 million that this imaginary story would have purchased it for. Therefore, they bought it for less than it was worth....

Do keep up.
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it was the yorkshire bank valuation, not the councils. there was also a sitting tennant at the time (all be it one not paying the rent, but most were expecting that to be sorted and not in the way it was) so yes the current valuation probably has gone down.
 
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Monners

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #20
AndreasB said:
yep great idea - get used to it when we draw a prem team in the Cup 3rd round.
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Its Friday mate - lighten up!
 

italiahorse

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #21
Nick said:
I am pretty sure SISU pay tax...
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More likely use CCFC losses to claim it back into their more profitable businesses.
 

James Smith

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #22
Nick said:
I am pretty sure SISU pay tax...
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In which country?
 

James Smith

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #23
skybluetony176 said:
it was the yorkshire bank valuation, not the councils. there was also a sitting tennant at the time (all be it one not paying the rent, but most were expecting that to be sorted and not in the way it was) so yes the current valuation probably has gone down.
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Or possibly up if ACL really are doing more business.
 

blueflint

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #24
Nick said:
I am pretty sure SISU pay tax...
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yes nick they do in the cayman isles
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #25
blueflint said:
yes nick they do in the cayman isles
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Ccfc pay tax in the uk.


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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #26
stupot07 said:
Ccfc pay tax in the uk.


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No they don't.
 
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dadgad

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #27
Nice little fantasy.
Btw, how are Pompey faring?
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #28
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
No they don't.
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Yes they do - VAT and Employers national insurance contributions.


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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #29
stupot07 said:
Yes they do - VAT and Employers national insurance contributions.


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Not all of it though remind me of one of the creditors in the Administration
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #30
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Not all of it though remind me of one of the creditors in the Administration
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Yes, they owed a small amount to the HMRC which I think OSB said was the tax bill since they entered admin.....so you agree ccfc do pay tax on the uk?


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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #31
stupot07 said:
Yes, they owed a small amount to the HMRC which I think OSB said was the tax bill since they entered admin.....so you agree ccfc do pay tax on the uk?


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What and believe everything that OSB says? Not likely
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #32
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
What and believe everything that OSB says? Not likely
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No that honour is saved for PWKH and ACL press statements.

But seriously, Ltd owed the HMRC £700 I believe.


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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #33
stupot07 said:
No that honour is saved for PWKH and ACL press statements.

But seriously, Ltd owed the HMRC £700 I believe.


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I don't believe anybody in this disaster 100% however I believe Mr Fisher 0%
I think it was less than the figure you mentioned
 

skybluefred

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #34
AndreasB said:
we couldnt get 10,000 of them to spend 200 quid on a season ticket mate
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Not while sisu are owners.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Dec 6, 2013
  • #35
It's a nice dream but we only get 30,000 when it costs a fiver never mind £200
 
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