Simms time… (9 Viewers)

AFCCOVENTRY · 2025-08-09T19:44:45+0100

Is up…

Lampard doesn’t rate him and he didn’t play at all during the play offs not even 5mins and can’t get on the pitch in a game like this.

He got some chances in the friendlies as he was rotating but when it comes to the league he doesn’t seem to trust him.

This saga needs to end as a bad purchase and we take what we can for him.

I really wanted it to work for him as I like most had high hopes with his potential.

Will be best for both parties as he clearly needs a different environment and we need better.

Kingokings204 · 2025-08-09T19:46:56+0100

He made a statement Today. He isn’t that bad he can’t play 20 minutes. But today was a statement that you’re not going to play. Bye

covcity4life · 2025-08-09T19:47:14+0100

I dunno. Could see him starting Vs Luton in the cup and then let's see how he does

mrfr · 2025-08-09T19:52:05+0100

If Lampard can’t get a tune out of an entire front line then perhaps the solution isn’t just shipping them out and replacing them but rather adapting the style of play to suit our actual squad.

It’s been obvious now for a good while that whatever we are doing isn’t producing enough goals from the frontline, and that isn’t going to change with at most one signing before the window closes.

Sky Blue Heaven · 2025-08-09T19:52:34+0100

Wonder if last years rumours are true regarding his next appearance will trigger another part of his transfer fee to Everton? Currently on 99 across all competitions, guess if he doesn’t start on Tuesday there might be something in it.

stupot07 · 2025-08-09T19:54:25+0100

covcity4life said:
I dunno. Could see him starting Vs Luton in the cup and then let's see how he does

Tbf I could see Andrew's starting Vs Luton and he wasn't in the squad today.

Boicey · 2025-08-09T19:59:47+0100

mrfr said:
If Lampard can’t get a tune out of an entire front line then perhaps the solution isn’t just shipping them out and replacing them but rather adapting the style of play to suit our actual squad.

It’s been obvious now for a good while that whatever we are doing isn’t producing enough goals from the frontline, and that isn’t going to change with at most one signing before the window closes.

What style of play suits the bountiful abilities of BTA and Simms?

chiefdave · 2025-08-09T20:01:07+0100

He's got two seasons left on his contract hasn't he? If nobody wants to pay him what we're paying him we'll need to make a pay off.

mrfr · 2025-08-09T20:04:53+0100

Boicey said:
What style of play suits the bountiful abilities of BTA and Simms?

What makes you think changing one of them for someone else will fundamentally change the systemic issues we have up front? Perhaps it is both a system and personnel issue but we can’t change enough of the personnel quickly enough to remove the need for a tactical change. It’s not like you can just pick a 20 goal a season striker up for fun.

Who do you realistically want to swap Simms for and how confident are you they would prosper with the same constraints?

Covcraig@bury · 2025-08-09T20:20:26+0100

I seen Simms leg it down the tunnel and not return with about 15 minutes to go. I think his days are up and I wish him well.
WE NEED A NEW STRIKER!!! .

Nick · 2025-08-09T20:22:41+0100

The thing is, somebody needs to want to buy him and pay his wages.

AFCCOVENTRY · 2025-08-09T20:29:18+0100

The other scenario is someone takes him on loan and pays his full wages if we can’t sell or a loan with buy option

AFCCOVENTRY · 2025-08-09T20:29:39+0100

Covcraig@bury said:
I seen Simms leg it down the tunnel and not return with about 15 minutes to go. I think his days are up and I wish him well.
WE NEED A NEW STRIKER!!! .

Did he? Even he know there was no chance he was coming on

SeaSeeEffCee · 2025-08-09T20:30:42+0100

Was listening to the Second Tier Podcasts league predictions and while they both really don’t like Lampard they are both Derby fans and said that he has a bit of form for completely freezing players out.

SomersetSB · 2025-08-09T20:36:56+0100

Oggy on CWR seemed to think we were in for a striker.

SHUNT31 · 2025-08-09T20:48:41+0100

mrfr said:
If Lampard can’t get a tune out of an entire front line then perhaps the solution isn’t just shipping them out and replacing them but rather adapting the style of play to suit our actual squad.

It’s been obvious now for a good while that whatever we are doing isn’t producing enough goals from the frontline, and that isn’t going to change with at most one signing before the window closes.

Haha this style of play thing is nonsense.

He should thrive off how we play given the number of crosses we put in the box, but he doesn’t.

He’s not good enough to hold the ball up and link play. He doesn’t make good runs off the ball, his movement is non-existent. And he’s not a good striker of the ball either.

I’ve seen this argument a number of times but I’d like to hear a system that would suit him? Because I don’t think there is one, he’s just not good enough.

mrfr · 2025-08-09T21:05:57+0100

SHUNT31 said:
Haha this style of play thing is nonsense.

He should thrive off how we play given the number of crosses we put in the box, but he doesn’t.

He’s not good enough to hold the ball up and link play. He doesn’t make good runs off the ball, his movement is non-existent. And he’s not a good striker of the ball either.

I’ve seen this argument a number of times but I’d like to hear a system that would suit him? Because I don’t think there is one, he’s just not good enough.

Haha. What about all of our other strikers? hes going to struggle to get on the end of crosses whilst sitting on the bench and watching them float over BTAs head.

hill83 · 2025-08-09T21:12:42+0100

All the gear no idea personified in a football player

SHUNT31 · 2025-08-09T21:12:43+0100

mrfr said:
Haha. What about all of our other strikers? hes going to struggle to get on the end of crosses whilst sitting on the bench and watching them float over BTAs head.

Not one thing would have changed today had Simms played the full 90.

Cally Fedora · 2025-08-09T21:20:09+0100

I agree with Lampards assessment. Simms must be a ridiculously frustrating player to work with. The problem is getting someone to take him.

pusbccfc · 2025-08-09T21:25:20+0100

Shame really because I always look back to how fucking brilliant he was against Wolves and Man United. There's a player there, but someone needs to work with him on a personal level. He's too laid back and not arsed.

shmmeee · 2025-08-09T21:50:15+0100

BST + 3 seconds

SBT · 2025-08-09T22:00:33+0100

If Lampard doesn’t have faith in him then it’s in everyone’s interest to sell him ASAP and bring in someone who wants to play in this system.

Frankly_Mr_Shankly · 2025-08-09T22:53:13+0100

Covcraig@bury said:
I seen Simms leg it down the tunnel and not return with about 15 minutes to go. I think his days are up and I wish him well.
WE NEED A NEW STRIKER!!! .

Maybe he had the shits?

DT-R · 2025-08-09T22:56:20+0100

covcity4life said:
I dunno. Could see him starting Vs Luton in the cup and then let's see how he does

Hes a confidence player that needs game time. Hes not gonna just switch it on for 1 90 minute cameo in a cup game.
Id love to be proven wrong, but its just not happening.
Take the loss and free up the wages for another striker. Some signings will pay and we'll make a profit, others wont. You can't win them all.

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CBS16 · 2025-08-09T23:12:09+0100

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Was listening to the Second Tier Podcasts league predictions and while they both really don’t like Lampard they are both Derby fans and said that he has a bit of form for completely freezing players out.

Yeah I really don't like that if it's what he's doing. We need all of them and they all offer something, despite what some boo boys say. Mark Robins was the king of giving people unexpected comebacks and chances before dropping etc. A good manager wouldn't have a 'bomb squad', as it's a rather wasteful use of resources.

To add to this, personal opinion and I am obviously just another clueless fan, but Simms and Bassette would do a lot more than a half fit Haji. Makes no sense the striker selections at the moment

chiefdave · 2025-08-09T23:23:29+0100

CBS16 said:
Yeah I really don't like that if it's what he's doing. We need all of them and they all offer something, despite what some boo boys say. Mark Robins was the king of giving people unexpected comebacks and chances before dropping etc. A good manager wouldn't have a 'bomb squad', as it's a rather wasteful use of resources.

We're not a club with the sort of money where the manager can just decide he doesn't fancy £6m players and we'll let them see out their contract and get someone in the manager is prepared to work with.

Even the biggest Simms hater is not going to claim he's a player who will be kicking off in training and causing trouble so it's very unlikely there's an actual issue there.

Skybluedownunder · 2025-08-09T23:25:39+0100

With BTA’s January interest, I think he’d be easier to sell

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Skyblueabo1111 · 2025-08-09T23:59:45+0100

Boicey said:
What style of play suits the bountiful abilities of BTA and Simms?

532. We did really well with both up front..our current formation is crap.

Skyblueabo1111 · 2025-08-10T00:01:28+0100

Cally Fedora said:
I agree with Lampards assessment. Simms must be a ridiculously frustrating player to work with. The problem is getting someone to take him.

Maybe it is Lampard? Doesn't like him or Basette,? Persists with Wright? Sunderland, dreadful.

clint van damme · 2025-08-10T00:30:51+0100

mrfr said:
If Lampard can’t get a tune out of an entire front line then perhaps the solution isn’t just shipping them out and replacing them but rather adapting the style of play to suit our actual squad.

It’s been obvious now for a good while that whatever we are doing isn’t producing enough goals from the frontline, and that isn’t going to change with at most one signing before the window closes.

We got 27 points out of 30 playing a system that we only used because of injury, food for thought?

Deity · 2025-08-10T08:35:14+0100

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Was listening to the Second Tier Podcasts league predictions and while they both really don’t like Lampard they are both Derby fans and said that he has a bit of form for completely freezing players out.

That’s how you force players out who might otherwise be happy to stay …. Cruel world elite sport.

OldBedrocker · 2025-08-10T08:47:02+0100

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Did he? Even he know there was no chance he was coming on

He did it twice in the 2nd half and come back up to the bench both times.

stay_up_skyblues · 2025-08-10T10:02:51+0100

SHUNT31 said:
Haha this style of play thing is nonsense.

He should thrive off how we play given the number of crosses we put in the box, but he doesn’t.

He’s not good enough to hold the ball up and link play. He doesn’t make good runs off the ball, his movement is non-existent. And he’s not a good striker of the ball either.

I’ve seen this argument a number of times but I’d like to hear a system that would suit him? Because I don’t think there is one, he’s just not good enough.

This really. At this stage of his career he isn’t going to suddenly develop a deft first touch or the flair and passing range to put others in. It’s not OTT to suggest that 3 out of every 5 touches are breeze block feet or 50 pence headers to the oppo. What Is in his power is to be a battering ram type to bully defenders, make a bit of space and run on/at goal which is when he looks decent. Alas he doesn’t seem to have the fight to do that consistently and shrinks back into himself. I think it’s probably best for everyone if he moves on.

WestEndAgro · 2025-08-10T10:08:35+0100

Simms was parked at the Casino, not the Players car park.
All of last season he was with the others.
Eccles also by the Casino, they both left around 1
hours after the game, separately but within a minute of each other.
Seemed a bit odd.
Eccles said he would be back training this week

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