SIGNED!!!! - Tatsuhiro Sakamoto (1 Viewer)

Boicey · Aug 13, 2023

I hope Sakamoto gets chance to show what he can do with a run of a few full games in the Championship. It would be great to see a full game impact where he has license to get forward.
That might be too much for Robins who tends to be pretty conservative.
But I hope we don't just see him as a last 10 minutes sub when we are chasing a game. That would be a real waste.

shmmeee · Aug 13, 2023

Boicey said:
I hope Sakamoto gets chance to show what he can do with a run of a few full games in the Championship. It would be great to see a full game impact where he has license to get forward.
That might be too much for Robins who tends to be pretty conservative.
But I hope we don't just see him as a last 10 minutes sub when we are chasing a game. That would be a real waste.

Think we’re going to see a lot more use of subs anyway and he can get on in so many positions even if he doesn’t start I think we’ll see a lot of him.

Boicey · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
Think we’re going to see a lot more use of subs anyway and he can get on in so many positions even if he doesn’t start I think we’ll see a lot of him.

So do you still really think ‘we’ll see a lot of him’?
Ayari will push him down the order and COH will push him way down.
A shame because Saka is capable of beating a player and disrupting defences.
I get the feeling MR has made up his mind. And he’s a stubborn bloke.

Hutch11 · Aug 27, 2023

Your feeling may be right but highly unlikely
Takes time to adjust to the game over here , its a lot more intense than most other leagues and the fitness levels are off the scale
Give all our new signings time and we'll see the benefits soon

TomRad85 · Aug 27, 2023

Boicey said:
So do you still really think ‘we’ll see a lot of him’?
Ayari will push him down the order and COH will push him way down.
A shame because Saka is capable of beating a player and disrupting defences.
I get the feeling MR has made up his mind. And he’s a stubborn bloke.

I was pretty annoyed that he didn't get on tbh. Game was asking for it.

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coop · Aug 27, 2023

I think the game yesterday was crying out for saka to come on .

Marty · Aug 27, 2023

coop said:
I think the game yesterday was crying out for saka to come on .

Agree, I said the same thing.

AFCCOVENTRY · Aug 27, 2023

coop said:
I think the game yesterday was crying out for saka to come on .

Yeah agree. Think robins was kind of alluding in his interview he couldn’t take MVE due to the job he was doing on Clarke, hence probably why Saka didn’t come on.

Terry_dactyl · Aug 27, 2023

Shame he didn’t come on as I thought he was almost brilliant vs Swansea.
That's to say he looked like, when in full flow, would create loads - in fact would’ve done had Wright not miss controlled his pass/he hadn’t hit his through ball to Wright too hard.

SeaSeeEffCee · Aug 27, 2023

Still feel like Robins doesn’t really know what to do with him. Seems a bit of an odd signing as not convinced he really fits our system, looks like and out and out winger to me

Boicey · Aug 27, 2023

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Still feel like Robins doesn’t really know what to do with him. Seems a bit of an odd signing as not convinced he really fits our system, looks like and out and out winger to me

I agree he’s more of a winger. He should be tried there in an overwhelming attacking role and see how much he messes up a defence and gives the likes of Simms chances in the box.

Boicey · Aug 27, 2023

He’d help get the fans going as well. Clearly all the markings of a fan’s favourite and someone who’d you want to go up to a game to watch.

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

Boicey said:
So do you still really think ‘we’ll see a lot of him’?
Ayari will push him down the order and COH will push him way down.
A shame because Saka is capable of beating a player and disrupting defences.
I get the feeling MR has made up his mind. And he’s a stubborn bloke.

Yes. But I don’t think he’s an AM.

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Still feel like Robins doesn’t really know what to do with him. Seems a bit of an odd signing as not convinced he really fits our system, looks like and out and out winger to me

He’s a wingback who can fill in at AM. I think he’ll manage.

SBT · Aug 27, 2023

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Still feel like Robins doesn’t really know what to do with him. Seems a bit of an odd signing as not convinced he really fits our system, looks like and out and out winger to me

I like the look of what I’ve seen of him so far, but I think he’s in danger of becoming a kind of wild card/utility player, who will come on and work hard when we need to plug a gap, but isn’t given the chance to excel in his chosen position. And that probably isn’t going to happen without a change of formation.

Boicey · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
Yes. But I don’t think he’s an AM.

So what’s your scenarios when we’ll see him?

Mucca Mad Boys · Aug 27, 2023

Boicey said:
So do you still really think ‘we’ll see a lot of him’?
Ayari will push him down the order and COH will push him way down.
A shame because Saka is capable of beating a player and disrupting defences.
I get the feeling MR has made up his mind. And he’s a stubborn bloke.

Sakamoto will fill in at WB or in the AM slot in the box.

He played well against Swansea, but what we needed was someone to link the strikers and midfield. We moved the ball better yesterday with Palmer and Ayari than we did with Sakamoto. Sakamoto did well in the wide spaces and dribbling the ball but couldn’t link up with the passing.

Sakamoto is new to England and will need time to adapt. It’s a long season.

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

Boicey said:
So what’s your scenarios when we’ll see him?

Robins like to switch up wingbacks. I think we didn’t see him against Sunderland because Clarke was playing and robins wanted MvEs pace.

SBT · Aug 27, 2023

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Sakamoto will fill in at WB or in the AM slot in the box.

And he’ll do fine at this, but I don’t think we’ll be seeing the best of him if we only see him as a backup option playing out of his natural position.

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

SBT said:
And he’ll do fine at this, but I don’t think we’ll be seeing the best of him if we only see him as a backup option playing out of his natural position.

What’s his natural position I your opinion if not the one he’s played most in his career?

Boicey · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
Robins like to switch up wingbacks. I think we didn’t see him against Sunderland because Clarke was playing and robins wanted MvEs pace.

I don’t see any evidence he likes to switch up wingbacks after his recent signings. Sakamoto has been cover for Palmer. That opportunity is going.

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

Boicey said:
I don’t see any evidence he likes to switch up wingbacks after his recent signings. Sakamoto has been cover for Palmer. That opportunity is going.

Sakamoto has played more at wingback than AM. He came in for Palmer last minute when we had no AMs. We then went and loaned an AM. The evidence really doesn’t support this theory.

SBT · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
What’s his natural position I your opinion if not the one he’s played most in his career?

I thought he was a winger?

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

SBT said:
I thought he was a winger?

He’s a wide midfielder. Wing back is a wide midfield position.

SBT · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
He’s a wide midfielder. Wing back is a wide midfield position.

In his own words: “My preferred position is that of right wing attacker. But I can also play perfectly on the left. My qualities lie mainly in the attacking compartment.”

I promise I’m not doing the ‘wing backs aren’t midfielders’ thing but in his own mind at least, he prefers to play in a position that doesn’t have any real defensive responsibilities.

Grendel · Aug 27, 2023

SBT said:
In his own words: “My preferred position is that of right wing attacker. But I can also play perfectly on the left. My qualities lie mainly in the attacking compartment.”

I promise I’m not doing the ‘wing backs aren’t midfielders’ thing but in his own mind at least, he prefers to play in a position that doesn’t have any real defensive responsibilities.

he would have been a disaster at wing back yesterday- most wing backs migrate from defenders - he’s never going to be able to do that aspect well

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

SBT said:
In his own words: “My preferred position is that of right wing attacker. But I can also play perfectly on the left. My qualities lie mainly in the attacking compartment.”

I promise I’m not doing the ‘wing backs aren’t midfielders’ thing but in his own mind at least, he prefers to play in a position that doesn’t have any real defensive responsibilities.

He’s been brought in to play wide is my point. Whether that’s in a three in attack in a 343 or as a wingback. He’s at his best wide. I think he’s there to provide an option off the bench on either side. I also think robins has some plan with wide AMs as he was on about getting an AML (which I think Ayari is/can be?).

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Aug 27, 2023

SBT said:
In his own words: “My preferred position is that of right wing attacker. But I can also play perfectly on the left. My qualities lie mainly in the attacking compartment.”

I promise I’m not doing the ‘wing backs aren’t midfielders’ thing but in his own mind at least, he prefers to play in a position that doesn’t have any real defensive responsibilities.

He has this obsession he’s a wing back however, even in Robins first interview he said “He is a versatile and creative attacking midfielder”. He’s now doing everything possible to shoehorn that to mean wing back. I don’t know why he wouldn’t just say “wing back” if that’s where Robins had brought him in for. He can clearly fill in there (versatile) but we didn’t sign him as a wing back

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shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
He has this obsession he’s a wing back however, even in Robins first interview he said “He is a versatile and creative attacking midfielder”. He’s now doing everything possible to shoehorn that to mean wing back. I don’t know why he wouldn’t just say “wing back” if that’s where Robins had brought him in for. He can clearly fill in there (versatile) but we didn’t sign him as a wing back

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How many games has he played AM for us, and how many at WB? In those games who did he start/come on ahead of?

Terry_dactyl · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
Yes. But I don’t think he’s an AM.

I thought he looked decent vs Swansea

SBT · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
He’s been brought in to play wide is my point. Whether that’s in a three in attack in a 343 or as a wingback. He’s at his best wide. I think he’s there to provide an option off the bench on either side. I also think robins has some plan with wide AMs as he was on about getting an AML (which I think Ayari is/can be?).

No doubt he has, but what I’m saying is that the positions we’re asking him to play don’t make the full use of his skill set. I have no doubt he’ll work hard there regardless, but it’s an unusual way to make use of a clearly talented player.

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
How many games has he played AM for us, and how many at WB? In those games who did he start/come on ahead of?

So, is Eccles a right wing back? Why would you describe a player as a different position to what you see him as?

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covcity4life · Aug 27, 2023

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
So, is Eccles a right wing back? Why would you describe a player as a different position to what you see him as?

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He has flip flopped twice on saka and been wrong twice lol

shmmeee · Aug 27, 2023

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
So, is Eccles a right wing back? Why would you describe a player as a different position to what you see him as?

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You are what you do, Eccles was mostly a RWB as he couldn’t get in at CM starting out as a young player. It’s not unusually for young midfielders to play out wide at first.

Saka has only played at AM when we’ve had no other options, and we just signed an AM who got on ahead of him yesterday.

Id be willing to bet Sakamoto plays wingback more than AM this season.

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Aug 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
You are what you do, Eccles was mostly a RWB as he couldn’t get in at CM starting out as a young player. It’s not unusually for young midfielders to play out wide at first.

Saka has only played at AM when we’ve had no other options, and we just signed an AM who got on ahead of him yesterday.

Id be willing to bet Sakamoto plays wingback more than AM this season.

That wouldn’t necessarily surprise me as Jodi Jones played most his games in his last season with us as a wing back. He’s not a wing back though. In the nichest bet of all time, I’d be willing to bet if MVE gets injured, Eccles (not a RWB) plays RWB before Tatsu. He will be used in that position when chasing a game, not against strong opposition or seeing out a result, because he’s not a right wing back. Unless we go four at the back (not going to happen) he doesn’t really have a position in the team.

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