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Should we do the same as Liverpool? (1 Viewer)

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1ccfc

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  • Jan 29, 2020
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Now at the business end of the season and with promotion very much in our hands should we do the same as Liverpool and play kids in the cup replay?

I was not at the game last night but reading some of the comments on here it sounds like fatigue is starting to set in. Then there is also the chance for injury.

As it stands we have 7 games in February averaging a game every 4 days. Three days after the replay we are playing Bolton which is surly a game we are looking to win if we want the autos.

If we win the replay then the game is scheduled for the 5th of March. That would be 4 days after Sunderland and three before Ipswich, both promotion rivals. The game could cause distraction for some players against Sunderland and just increase tiredness before Ipswich.

I know the cup brings revenue and we defiantly need it. However promotion would also bring an increase in revenue, so I think play the kids in the cup and let’s give ourselves the best chance for promotion.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #2
1ccfc said:
Now at the business end of the season and with promotion very much in our hands should we do the same as Liverpool and play kids in the cup replay?

I was not at the game last night but reading some of the comments on here it sounds like fatigue is starting to set in. Then there is also the chance for injury.

As it stands we have 7 games in February averaging a game every 4 days. Three days after the replay we are playing Bolton which is surly a game we are looking to win if we want the autos.

If we win the replay then the game is scheduled for the 5th of March. That would be 4 days after Sunderland and three before Ipswich, both promotion rivals. The game could cause distraction for some players against Sunderland and just increase tiredness before Ipswich.

I know the cup brings revenue and we defiantly need it. However promotion would also bring an increase in revenue, so I think play the kids in the cup and let’s give ourselves the best chance for promotion.
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To put it very simply, no. We can make 11 changes and still not 'play the kids'. We don't need to make 11 changes though. A few should be rested/rotated and other than that we go again.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #3
Not so much kids, i agree think for the game next tuesday-

Jones,Pask,Max,Mason and maybe a few others should defiantly start
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #4
Nope, we just need to rotate properly.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #5
Unfortunately we're not in the same financial position as Liverpool. Getting through and having a decent pay day at Leicester would be very welcome given how much ticket revenues are down this season.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #6
We definitely need to rotate and should have done on Saturday.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #7
As mentioned use the squad that’s what it’s there for he got it wrong last night with Shipley & Westbrooke we wasted the first 45 min messing about with 9 men they were passengers,can’t see how Jaime Allen isn’t getting a sniff ? I would start Allen & O’Hare for Shipley Westbrooke Saturday.
 

Esoterica

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #8
We've got the best squad we've had for years and yet the most settled first XI too. We're not maximising the benefit of that squad currently.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #9
Esoterica said:
We've got the best squad we've had for years and yet the most settled first XI too. We're not maximising the benefit of that squad currently.
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Stubbornness
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #10
1ccfc said:
If we win the replay then the game is scheduled for the 5th of March. That would be 3 days after Sunderland and three before Ipswich, both promotion rivals. The game could cause distraction for some players against Sunderland and just increase tiredness before Ipswich.
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FTFY - Sunderland moved to Sunday - Sky game.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #11
cc84cov said:
Stubbornness
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Loyalty too
 

harvey098

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #12
cc84cov said:
Stubbornness
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Such rubbish. If he’d made changes, people would be saying “why mess with a winning team”. It was a decent away point against a promotion chasing team. Job done. Onto the next.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #13
You know the FA Cup is doomed when there is even a thread on talk of a league one club playing a championship club with the opportunity of playing away at a prem club discussing possibility of resting players
 

Joy Division

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #14
Use the squad definitely, for me I'd go for

Marosi
Dabo
Mason
Pask
McFaz
Rose
Eccles
Walsh
Westbrooke
O'Hare
Biamou
 

ccfcway

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #15
Joy Division said:
Use the squad definitely, for me I'd go for

Marosi
Dabo
Mason
Pask
McFaz
Rose
Eccles
Walsh
Westbrooke
O'Hare
Biamou
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If anyone needs a rest it’s mcfaz
 
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Joy Division

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #16
Yeah that's true
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #17
ccfcway said:
You know the FA Cup is doomed when there is even a thread on talk of a league one club playing a championship club with the opportunity of playing away at a prem club discussing possibility of resting players
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Brentford played a reserve team in the last round against Leicester
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #18
ccfcway said:
You know the FA Cup is doomed when there is even a thread on talk of a league one club playing a championship club with the opportunity of playing away at a prem club discussing possibility of resting players
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Any other season fair enough, but we have a real shot at promotion and players are starting to look tired. So fuck it.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #19
shmmeee said:
Any other season fair enough, but we have a real shot at promotion and players are starting to look tired. So fuck it.
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don't disagree. Its the cups problem not ours. I watched the Brentford game where they played their reserves v Leicester. The whole cups system needs reviewed.
 
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ceetee

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #20
1ccfc said:
However promotion would also bring an increase in revenue
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It would also bring an increase in player costs which might not be balanced by the income without a huge increase in paying spectators.
I'm not sure that the club could sustain it in the present circumstances.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #21
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Not so much kids, i agree think for the game next tuesday-

Jones,Pask,Max,Mason and maybe a few others should defiantly start
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They should be fined in that case
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #22
The money in the Premier League now makes the FA Cup redundant for any club trying to stay in it or trying to get promoted into it. I don’t think there is a solution really
 

mrtrench

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #23
I think that we should copy Liverpool by winning every week. Not too fussed about anything else.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #24
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Not so much kids, i agree think for the game next tuesday-

Jones,Pask,Max,Mason and maybe a few others should defiantly start
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Taking the piss?

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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #25
No, we try to win on Tuesday because:

1. We get prize money for winning the tie
2. Money for being the furthest L1 club in the competition
3. Money from ticket sales for sold out FA Cup game for the Leicester’s game
4. Maybe TV money on top of this

All of this could equate to over half a million pounds. We can’t afford to not go for it.

We should use our squad against Bristol Rovers - we beat them with a few changes in the 3rd round replay. Although, I do not know if Rover were at full strength!
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #26
They should have four of our ex players in the starting line up on Saturday Leahy,Clarke-Harris and Ogogo and Davies Just back from injury played for them last night.Mind you JCH may be off to Charlton before Saturday as they’ve bid for him!!
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #27
Grendel said:
Brentford played a reserve team in the last round against Leicester
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And were hammered 1-0
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #28
Yes please. 36 points clear of Man U after 24 games. Quite fancy that!!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #29
westcountry_skyblue said:
They should have four of our ex players in the starting line up on Saturday Leahy,Clarke-Harris and Ogogo and Davies Just back from injury played for them last night.Mind you JCH may be off to Charlton before Saturday as they’ve bid for him!!
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JCH leaves - we win (and might anyway)
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #30
Let's just get the Liverpool kids to play for us!
 

covmark

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #31
ccfcway said:
The whole cups system needs reviewed.
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Give the Fa cup winner a champions league place.
See what teams the so called big clubs put out then.


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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 29, 2020
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covmark said:
Give the Fa cup winner a champions league place.
See what teams the so called big clubs put out then.


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It’s not just the big teams Brentford made loads of changes too.

The Champions League spot for the winners was discussed before but I think the Europa League is a good enough prize for the smaller Prem clubs who haven’t played in Europe before. I don’t think any nation offers a Champions League place for the major cup
 

covmark

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #33
SlowerThanPlatt said:
It’s not just the big teams Brentford made loads of changes too.

The Champions League spot for the winners was discussed before but I think the Europa League is a good enough prize for the smaller Prem clubs who haven’t played in Europe before. I don’t think any nation offers a Champions League place for the major cup
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Ok so just restrict the richest competition, for the richest clubs.
Tell me why it should be a better reward and celebrated, for finishing 4th, than winning the oldest cup in the world?

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 29, 2020
  • #34
covmark said:
Ok so just restrict the richest competition, for the richest clubs.
Tell me why it should be a better reward and celebrated, for finishing 4th, than winning the oldest cup in the world?

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Because any gloss and magic left the FA Cup as a result of the following:

1. Messing around with replays, dates, playing the final before the end of the season
2. Loads of live games with false hype
3. Using Wembley for semi finals
4. Palace getting 14,000 tickets for the final to Man Utd’s 26,000
5. Arsene Wenger- he was the first to play reserve teams in the cup
6. Man Utd pulling out in 2000

Nobody really cares about the FA Cup any more, it represents a potential good day out and a money spinner but that’s it.

The last time I can remember the FA Cup Final being the game you had to watch and which felt like a special occasion was probably 1991 when Clough could have won it.

It’s hard to put into words how magical the FA Cup once was and how far it’s fallen, and it gets on my nerves when TV and managers refer to the greatness of the competition, it’s not great any more, the Premier League & those connected to it killed it. The only way to save it would be to reverse what they did wrong and get the mystique back- neutral venues for semi finals, the draw on Monday 11.30am, less live games, allow as many replays as needed etc etc.. and even then I doubt it would be enough, the people that pick the teams just don’t care.

I’m just glad we won it when we did in the ‘glory days’ of the competition, which will never be replicated.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2020
  • #35
Ring Of Steel said:
Because any gloss and magic left the FA Cup as a result of the following:

1. Messing around with replays, dates, playing the final before the end of the season
2. Loads of live games with false hype
3. Using Wembley for semi finals
4. Palace getting 14,000 tickets for the final to Man Utd’s 26,000
5. Arsene Wenger- he was the first to play reserve teams in the cup
6. Man Utd pulling out in 2000

Nobody really cares about the FA Cup any more, it represents a potential good day out and a money spinner but that’s it.

The last time I can remember the FA Cup Final being the game you had to watch and which felt like a special occasion was probably 1991 when Clough could have won it.

It’s hard to put into words how magical the FA Cup once was and how far it’s fallen, and it gets on my nerves when TV and managers refer to the greatness of the competition, it’s not great any more, the Premier League & those connected to it killed it. The only way to save it would be to reverse what they did wrong and get the mystique back- neutral venues for semi finals, the draw on Monday 11.30am, less live games, allow as many replays as needed etc etc.. and even then I doubt it would be enough, the people that pick the teams just don’t care.

I’m just glad we won it when we did in the ‘glory days’ of the competition, which will never be replicated.
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Last team to climb the famous steps at the real Wembley
 
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