Saw this photo and it made me think about it.
This is a man on a beach being challenged for breaking lockdown rules.
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CorrectI'm all for anyone who is capable of doing the job without compromising their own or their colleagues safety or the integrity of the job.
I'm against women joining the Infantry (still the only job in the British Army women cannot currently apply for and do). I'm not saying that there arent women strong enough and fit enough to do the job, but it wouldnt stay at that.
Take, for example, the fire service. Women fought for the right to join the service and eventually won the right. After a few years and only a handful of women met the grade to join they fought again for equal rights (ie, make it easier for women to join so the numbers are more balanced). I'm 6'3" and weigh approx 100kg or 15 and a half stone. If I was unconscious in a burning tower block, most men would struggle to get me out, I dont know (personally, there will be one or 2 out there) a single woman who could pick me up and carry me.
If you can pass the same tests as the men, then great, welcome aboard, but dont shout equality and have the tests made easier thus breaking the integrity of the job.
Train hard, fight easy.
Not, train easier for split arses and do a piss poor job because of equality.
I think instead of asking if they "should" join the force, it should be "should they be allowed"?
Sorry for the rant
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This reminds me of a doorman outside Brown's some years back. That pub that was really strict and would hardly let anyone in. This little doorman was stopping everyone from entering, me for having tattooed hands, and a mate just because he looked pissed even though he wasn't. He looked about 15 and was about 7 stone wet. We just went over the road to the old Dive Bar and in there it was full of drinkers who had also been refused entry into Brown's. Talk got round at the tiny bouncer who was stopping everybody and acting like he was Bruce Lee.
I've never been inside Browns, and in fact, didn't even know where it was until after it closed! LOL! Not the sort of place I'd want to be seen in either, after they prevented that uniformed soldier from going in. Caused an outrage if I remember.This reminds me of a doorman outside Brown's some years back. That pub that was really strict and would hardly let anyone in. This little doorman was stopping everyone from entering, me for having tattooed hands, and a mate just because he looked pissed even though he wasn't. He looked about 15 and was about 7 stone wet. We just went over the road to the old Dive Bar and in there it was full of drinkers who had also been refused entry into Brown's. Talk got round at the tiny bouncer who was stopping everybody and acting like he was Bruce Lee.
Was he a martial arts expert ? Nobody knew who he was but whatever he was he stood his ground. Maybe psychology from the owner, as stood next to him was a huge bouncer !
I tried twice to go in there over the years but got refused entry. A friend of mine who has since passed away was in the city centre with 2 of his relatives over from Ireland. One was a magistrate, the other owned her own business in Dublin. Anyway they had a meal nearby and decided they'd go in Brown's for a drink.I've never been inside Browns, and in fact, didn't even know where it was until after it closed! LOL! Not the sort of place I'd want to be seen in either, after they prevented that uniformed soldier from going in. Caused an outrage if I remember.
Typical case of "small man syndrome". Had a PTI (Army version of a P.E Teacher) when I was in battalion that was tiny, had it in his mind that we all thought he wasnt capable to do the job as he was so short so to make up for his "shortfall" he went over the top every session to prove he could do it.This reminds me of a doorman outside Brown's some years back. That pub that was really strict and would hardly let anyone in. This little doorman was stopping everyone from entering, me for having tattooed hands, and a mate just because he looked pissed even though he wasn't. He looked about 15 and was about 7 stone wet. We just went over the road to the old Dive Bar and in there it was full of drinkers who had also been refused entry into Brown's. Talk got round at the tiny bouncer who was stopping everybody and acting like he was Bruce Lee.
Was he a martial arts expert ? Nobody knew who he was but whatever he was he stood his ground. Maybe psychology from the owner, as stood next to him was a huge bouncer !
Their tears weren't as sweet as those of the owners when their name was mud and the entire city boycotted them for turning away soldiers at a funeral.Never turned away from Browns, but then I don’t look like a wrongun.
Always enjoyed the tears from those that did though.
Never turned away from Browns, but then I don’t look like a wrongun.
Always enjoyed the tears from those that did though.
Never turned away from Browns, but then I don’t look like a wrongun.
Always enjoyed the tears from those that did though.
that’s a twattish thing to say- they used to love turning people away for no reason, they were complete idiots.
It might say more about what you do look like thenNever turned away from Browns, but then I don’t look like a wrongun.
Always enjoyed the tears from those that did though.
It might say more about what you do look like then
I remember we got as far as the bar once. Great time to be alive
Yeah everyone says that, but then everyone I’ve known to be turned away has looked like a chav soooo...
Cry more?
Honestly, it’s just a bar and not a great one at that. I don’t get the butthurt.
Nah we didn't bother again. Apart from heckling the door men on the way past.See? It was a feature of the place! More people went just to see if they could get in. Probably helped bring attention to what was a pretty shit bar.
I don’t know why I would cry, I only ever went a couple of times and it was crap anyway. Plenty had bad experiences for no reason at all, and it was great when they got their comeuppance- so for you to be revelling in people’s nights being ruined for no reason is indeed a pretty twattish thing to say, I don’t know why you’d get off on people being treated like scum for nothing.
Nah we didn't bother again. Apart from heckling the door men on the way past.
People’s nights were ruined by not getting into a bar they knew they probably wouldn’t get into anyway? Put the pearls down FFS. It was their entire selling point.
We’ve all been turned away from bars for reasons we don’t like. Man up.
Yeah, not smoking isn’t really agreeing with you is it
Hahahaha. Fucking hell. Had to dig into the big bag of personal insults now. All because you didn’t get into a shit bar ten years ago. It happens. Move on. You didn’t miss anything.
I just told you, I never got turned away from there. That does not mean they weren’t tossers, they blatantly were. But anyway, if you find that this kind of attitude works for you then you crack on
Whatever happened to dress codes to get into places? In my clubbing days you had zero chance of getting in somewhere if you were wearing t-shirt, jeans and trainers, or anyone of the three.The Colly would frequently demand NUSif they didn’t like the look of you. Yates’s has some ridiculous rules around hats. Carey’s didn’t like brown shoes.
Whatever happened to dress codes to get into places? In my clubbing days you had zero chance of getting in somewhere if you were wearing t-shirt, jeans and trainers, or anyone of the three.
I think I've reached the 'kids these days' phase of life.
I do generally find the attitude of “random bar bouncers don’t determine the worth of my life” works for me. Yes.
Whatever happened to dress codes to get into places? In my clubbing days you had zero chance of getting in somewhere if you were wearing t-shirt, jeans and trainers, or anyone of the three.
I think I've reached the 'kids these days' phase of life.
As well as taking great delight when seeing someone being treated like crap for no reason at all. Real classy.
Being turned away at a private bar isn’t being treated like crap, it’s being turned away at a bar. Don’t take it as a comment on your life. That’s my point. Some bars want certain clientele, sometimes you won’t be in that clientele. I’ve been turned away from bars for ridiculous reasons. That’s on them. I went to another one and enjoyed my night. I’m not still bitter ten years later.
The problem people seem to have with Browns was that they felt they were the right clientele even when told they weren’t. Which I find funny like all pricking of pomposity. I was almost always hiding a “well I’m better than *that* person they let in” attitude.
I can remember going to one place years ago (not in Cov), was a small after hours chill out type place. There was a group of 5 or 6 of us a bit the worse for wear. Got there and there wasn't a queue but there was two chaps in the process of being turned away. Both smartly dressed, neither noticeably drunk or causing any issue. The door men were telling them the club was full but, as one of the doormen told us to wait until they'd gone and we'd be let in, it seemed the real issue was that they weren't white.Some bars want certain clientele, sometimes you won’t be in that clientele. I’ve been turned away from bars for ridiculous reasons.
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