skybluegod
Well-Known Member
That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen on this forum.
Well it is the same old problem as I see it given shit keepers to coach sorry but you can't make players any better then they are doesn't matter who coaches them.
we have 2 very weak keepers and until that is a dressed you can blame who ever you want...........
Oggy for a knighthood I say having to work with such dross.
Why?That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen on this forum.
Almost. It was Murphy when he went round the keeperSame here but what I look at is multiple managers and owners have been and gone and they have all retained his services. That says to me he's doing a decent job. Also in the last few years with the likes of Westwood and Murphy goalkeeping has been one area we haven't really had to worry about.
The only thing I know about his coaching is that when we scored from a free kick earlier in the season I remember whoever it was who scored saying it was something they'd been working on at the training ground with Oggy.
Same here but what I look at is multiple managers and owners have been and gone and they have all retained his services. That says to me he's doing a decent job. Also in the last few years with the likes of Westwood and Murphy goalkeeping has been one area we haven't really had to worry about.
The only thing I know about his coaching is that when we scored from a free kick earlier in the season I remember whoever it was who scored saying it was something they'd been working on at the training ground with Oggy.
Why?
So you believe another goalkeeping coach would have made our keepers better
Well I beg to differ.
What a fine keeper Konstantopolis (or whatever his name is) has turned into. Can't say it is entirely down to Oggy but has had coaching from Oggy.
I've got my Oggy Out t shirt, I've put stink bombs through his letterbox, what else do you want me to do?Surprised Otis isn't on here, considering he is on every other thread and seems to have raised issues about Oggy in the past?
Its just people looking for someone to blame... I think its when we don't have homegrown players to grown, we blame the staff most closely associated with the club?What difference does a goalkeeper coach make to the results, team selected, system we play and tactics. I still fail to see this surge in Steve Ogrizovic must go mantra almost every time we lose a match. I don't know if Oggy is great keeper coach or not, I know he was a great goalkeeper though and there's a fair few keepers playing in various divisions at the moment who have been coached by him. Can anyone explain what makes a good goalkeeper coach ?
Its just people looking for someone to blame... I think its when we don't have homegrown players to grown, we blame the staff most closely associated with the club?
Now i know he is a legend in these parts but that should not alone secure you a job for life.
TM has varying issues around him. Some I believe could be the back room staff. Oggy is such a figure head and is steeped in the past of all managers gone before him. He rises to his feet and goes through the clip board of tactics like he has year in year out. Has TM lost some control in this area on a match by match basis? Oggy is the one consistent ever present under every recent manager and the failings. Has he allowed Oggy too much freedom due to his status at the club and the result is some undermining of TM's management and coaching ability?
Sometimes it's hard to release those that do a decent job but you know you would prefer to be elsewhere. TM should wrestle back full control of the match day regime and for that matter full coaching responsibilities if he is to stamp out some of the problems. I think it's time Oggy departed to pastures new or take up a different role at the club.
Or am I being too harsh on the legend?
If he wouldnt find it hard to get a job elsewhere then get rid of him NOW !!!!!
Think you are been very harsh particularly in this day and age of football clubs consistency getting rid of managers and backroom room staff quickly - Oggy has lasted a long time and is plainly highly rated in the football world and would not find it difficult to get a job elsewhere -Glady the records show We do not seem to suffer from poor players in goalkeeping area under oggy and currently nothing has changed , as oggy has had some impressive keepers under him in his time Hedman, Murphy,Westwood, to name just three - He is also i imagine is under a budget so has two young goalkeepers - I personally think Charles Cooke will go onto good things and currently sits 9th in the goalkeeping stats in league 1 which is not bad for his age and experience and oggy and the club will be happy about that as he can and will only get better at 21 - he actually went 5 games without conceding a goal after his debut and actully holds the coventry city goalkeeping record of the longest time without conceding a goal and it is well noted he did not concede many goals when we had a settled back 4 -(this last statement also goes for burge) Reice - cooke also has probably the longest contract at the club as bigger teams will come sniffing - Lee burge is also on a fairly long contract, so the club do not ovbiously see any issues in that area but do see issues in the the rest of the defence which has been well documented - if you keep on changing the defence you will unsettle any goalkeeper
If he wouldnt find it hard to get a job elsewhere then get rid of him NOW !!!!!
Oggy is obviously happy where he is - His credentials speak for themselves - I am sure that he has been tapped up in the past but his loyalty is with CCFC and at his age is comfortable in his surroundings and not wanting to be moving around - he has played for many managers in his role of goalkeeper coach and not one of them has decided to replace him or bring there own this in itself speaks volumes - they all obviously rate him highly or he would not be there
I've got my Oggy Out t shirt, I've put stink bombs through his letterbox, what else do you want me to do?
Someone has written earlier ... he is a constant since our demise maybe a change would be for the better of the team... thanks oggy for your years at Ccfc but time for a change maybe its not your fault but also maybe it is.... goodbye old chapwhy?
I've got my Oggy Out t shirt, I've put stink bombs through his letterbox, what else do you want me to do?Surprised Otis isn't on here, considering he is on every other thread and seems to have raised issues about Oggy in the past?
You want me to take photos of me putting stink bombs through his letterbox?But no evidence?
Course it's not all Oggy's fault.Yes all Oggies fault should be whipped to death for our demise.
Someone has written earlier ... he is a constant since our demise maybe a change would be for the better of the team... thanks oggy for your years at Ccfc but time for a change maybe its not your fault but also maybe it is.... goodbye old chap
Someone has written earlier ... he is a constant since our demise maybe a change would be for the better of the team... thanks oggy for your years at Ccfc but time for a change maybe its not your fault but also maybe it is.... goodbye old chap
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