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Deleted member 5849 · Apr 3, 2014

Cutting through the mentalism who can honestly put their hands up and say they're surprised by the result?

I'll admit to being surprised. From the outside it looked like an open and shut case that Higgs were owed the money.

Just shows why I'm neither a lawyer, nor a judge

Nick · Apr 3, 2014

I am quite surprised, I have only read the tweets about it and it seemed the judge wasn't keen on sisu

wingy · Apr 3, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Cutting through the mentalism who can honestly put their hands up and say they're surprised by the result?

I'll admit to being surprised. From the outside it looked like an open and shut case that Higgs were owed the money.

Just shows why I'm neither a lawyer, nor a judge

Ditto ,seems he focused heavily on the Afters ,rather than the real/true intnetions of the Pre and during .

lordsummerisle · Apr 3, 2014

Was surprised myself.

Was Tonylinc one of Higgs barristers?

skybluetony176 · Apr 3, 2014

I taught myself not to be surprised after sisu won the JR appeal. I realised there and then that I know as much about law as grendulls accountant knows about accounting.

dongonzalos · Apr 3, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Cutting through the mentalism who can honestly put their hands up and say they're surprised by the result?

I'll admit to being surprised. From the outside it looked like an open and shut case that Higgs were owed the money.

Just shows why I'm neither a lawyer, nor a judge

I was only surprised after
SISU gave evidence and the judges response to that evidence and their QC summing up.

Although the Higgs' QC never really took full advantage of SISU's evidence.

There was more on here than he used. Such as bashing people in court. Tim saying ACL were about to go bust. Tim saying public ally ACL were not worth anything really.

SISU saying the price they offered was just charity

That they were going to pull funding if they did not get a deal

That the decision to not pay rent was separate.

The Higgs QC never really dug into these points.

dongonzalos · Apr 3, 2014

I was more surprised when the JR was allowed

Nick · Apr 3, 2014

Maybe it will make people try to establish the facts and see things as a judge would with personal hatred aside?

letsallsingtogether · Apr 3, 2014

Too late for that.

Nick said:
Maybe it will make people try to establish the facts and see things as a judge would with personal hatred aside?

Grendel · Apr 3, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I was only surprised after
SISU gave evidence and the judges response to that evidence and their QC summing up.

Although the Higgs' QC never really took full advantage of SISU's evidence.

There was more on here than he used. Such as bashing people in court. Tim saying ACL were about to go bust. Tim saying public ally ACL were not worth anything really.

SISU saying the price they offered was just charity

That they were going to pull funding if they did not get a deal

That the decision to not pay rent was separate.

The Higgs QC never really dug into these points.

Perhaps you should offer your services next time?

RFC · Apr 3, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Cutting through the mentalism who can honestly put their hands up and say they're surprised by the result?

I'll admit to being surprised. From the outside it looked like an open and shut case that Higgs were owed the money.

Just shows why I'm neither a lawyer, nor a judge

Not at all surprised, more to come after 10th June!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 3, 2014

As I said, cutting through the mentalism...

RFC · Apr 3, 2014

What's required are a few more 'open' minds to step back and look at the 'bigger' picture.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 3, 2014

RFC said:
What's required are a few more 'open' minds to step back and look at the 'bigger' picture.

If I stepped back I'd end up in the valley of the damned with you

letsallsingtogether · Apr 3, 2014

Shame you don't do that.

RFC said:
What's required are a few more 'open' minds to step back and look at the 'bigger' picture.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 3, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
Shame you don't do that.

We on every day now?

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 3, 2014

RFC said:
What's required are a few more 'open' minds to step back and look at the 'bigger' picture.

It's an open mind that makes me surprised

letsallsingtogether · Apr 3, 2014

What so the judge will say sisu you lied CCC you lied get out of my court..

We have then achieved what.

Back to square one even I could't take that.

RFC said:
Not at all surprised, more to come after 10th June!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

letsallsingtogether · Apr 3, 2014

Only while Eastenders is on

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
We on every day now?

martcov · Apr 3, 2014

RFC said:
What's required are a few more 'open' minds to step back and look at the 'bigger' picture.

Are you one of those "open minds"? Up until now I had you as a SISU spokesman...

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 3, 2014

martcov said:
Are you one of those "open minds"? Up until now I had you as a SISU spokesman...

tbh if I wanted to embark on a major media assault from the ACL side, the first thing I'd do is employ RFC as he can't help but make SISU look bad!

Rob S · Apr 3, 2014

Ahem....
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/showpost.php?p=678917

Houchens Head · Apr 3, 2014

Shock result? I didn't even know we were playing! Who were we up against? Man U? Liverpool? Did we win? What was the score?

covmark · Apr 3, 2014

Rob S said:
Ahem....
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/showpost.php?p=678917

Nobody likes a smart arse

Nick · Apr 3, 2014

Interesting how somebody who seems to know their stuff, was in court seemed to know the outcome...

Was he the Judge?

duffer · Apr 3, 2014

Must confess that after the stuff about the six-weeks exclusivity came out, I thought it was pretty much nailed on for Higgs. What was surprising was how far down the track the judge was prepared to go in digging up stuff from August and beyond. I'm also surprised at how much of an easy ride the SISU witness seemed to get compared to the AEHC ones.

You have to presume that the charity thought they had a reasonably solid case - if there's one thing that's certain about court, it's that nothing is certain about court!

In terms of the JR, there's some stuff in the document in the other thread that makes me wonder about SISU's case. I'm not convinced this result actually makes it more definite that they'll win there, but it's a sure reminder that there's no way to be certain.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 3, 2014

duffer said:
I'm not convinced this result actually makes it more definite that they'll win there.

I said before this I thought it had absolutely no bearing on the JR, and I'm not going to change my mind now.

Two separate cases, two different objectives.

fernandopartridge · Apr 3, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Cutting through the mentalism who can honestly put their hands up and say they're surprised by the result?

I'll admit to being surprised. From the outside it looked like an open and shut case that Higgs were owed the money.

Just shows why I'm neither a lawyer, nor a judge

I am not surprised. This is the nature of litigation.

Like I say, despite the warm words and soundbites, the parties rarely demonstrate any commitment to reaching an agreement.

Hobo · Apr 4, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Cutting through the mentalism who can honestly put their hands up and say they're surprised by the result?

I'll admit to being surprised. From the outside it looked like an open and shut case that Higgs were owed the money.

Just shows why I'm neither a lawyer, nor a judge

Read my comment page 173 Higgs v SISU row court thingy that went on for ever

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