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luwalla · Mar 31, 2018

needs resting for a while and coaching how to tackle I feel.

Had a good run but lately he seems too lightweight, always pulls out of tackles and started to stop going past people too now.

Delivers a good dead ball still, but needs to toughen up and realise you have to fight for it on this league... unless you have the skill of say Jodi jones/ Jacob Murphy or even Reid when he comes on ( then you can get away with one a bit more )

Really frustarating now the amount of 50/50 balls he just pulls out of

Cavan O'Doherty · Mar 31, 2018

luwalla said:
needs resting for a while and coaching how to tackle I feel.

Had a good run but lately he seems too lightweight, always pulls out of tackles and started to stop going past people too now.

Delivers a good dead ball still, but needs to toughen up and realise you have to fight for it on this league... unless you have the skill of say Jodi jones/ Jacob Murphy or even Reid when he comes on ( then you can get away with one a bit more )

Really frustarating now the amount of 50/50 balls he just pulls out of

The same could be said for Haynes. Bottles every challenge he goes into.

win9nut · Mar 31, 2018

Reid is crying out for a start, always seems to be a quality ball coming into the box from him...

luwalla · Mar 31, 2018

Cavan O'Doherty said:
The same could be said for Haynes. Bottles every challenge he goes into.

At least he tries to beat the man though and does get crosses in... Shipley is like a poor mans haynes . Sorry , wouldnt berate him
On the pitch but that’s my opinion last few matches

luwalla · Mar 31, 2018

win9nut said:
Reid is crying out for a start, always seems to be a quality ball coming into the box from him...

Not sure he is same player from start though.. think they got it right on cwr when they said that reId is best used as second half sub when defenders are tired and he is keen as mustard coming on

wingy · Mar 31, 2018

Did he not have a knock recently .
Might be trying to look after himself ?
It's quite handy having Kyle as an impact sub .
Any alternatives?

luwalla · Mar 31, 2018

wingy said:
Did he not have a knock recently .
Might be trying to look after himself ?
It's quite handy having Kyle as an impact sub .
Any alternatives?

Baker when he is fit !

covcity4life · Mar 31, 2018

Hes had a v good season but should not be stsrting evrry game. A break for 2 or 3 games could do him good

stupot07 · Mar 31, 2018

luwalla said:
Baker when he is fit !

Yeah, but what about this season?

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larry_david · Mar 31, 2018

Was very good away at Mansfield and got a couple of set piece assists against Grimsby. But crewe away he bottled every tackle. The Reid conundrum... Is he effective from the start? I think Monday we will find out

Otis · Mar 31, 2018

larry_david said:
Was very good away at Mansfield and got a couple of set piece assists against Grimsby. But crewe away he bottled every tackle. The Reid conundrum... Is he effective from the start? I think Monday we will find out

I am not convinced.

Much better option from off the bench I think .

larry_david · Mar 31, 2018

Of course if Reid starts and we get an early lead then it's ok. If we are chasing a goal with 25 mins to go, is Shipley gonna come on and supply it? I'd like to think that josh Barrett guy is going to come on and do something. Otherwise why he is on the bench

Esoterica · Mar 31, 2018

As a natural centre midfielder Shipley is a defensive winger, plays narrow and is useful for keeping it tight from the off, a tactic Robins has been fond of all season. He is good protection for Haynes. Think it needs a decision on a game by game basis from now on in. Yeovil have just won their last away game and had a rest on Friday. I would want to hit them from the off at home and not let their confidence grow further by keeping it tight for a half. Who will worry them and put them on the back foot? Reid to start this one for me.

Gibbo · Mar 31, 2018

Can you have a defensive mid fielder who by common consent does not tackle?

Sky Blue Harry H · Mar 31, 2018

Esoterica said:
As a natural centre midfielder Shipley is a defensive winger, plays narrow and is useful for keeping it tight from the off, a tactic Robins has been fond of all season. He is good protection for Haynes. Think it needs a decision on a game by game basis from now on in. Yeovil have just won their last away game and had a rest on Friday. I would want to hit them from the off at home and not let their confidence grow further by keeping it tight for a half. Who will worry them and put them on the back foot? Reid to start this one for me.

Agree with everything you've said - saved me a post !!

Mucca Mad Boys · Mar 31, 2018

Otis said:
I am not convinced.

Much better option from off the bench I think .

Agreed. Also, who would be more likely to make an impact off the bench against tiring defenders? Reid or Shipley?

Reid, by the sounds of it (I personally weren’t convinced against Luton, the last game I went to), has put in some good cameos of late. But, he probably needs to get a couple more assists/goals before considering him as a starter.

Irish Sky Blue · Mar 31, 2018

I would start with Reid on Monday as he has looked sharp when coming on in the last few games. I felt he changed the game yesterday. We need to beat Yeovil obviously so I would go with a team that can get at them.No disrespect to Shipley but Reid is a natural wide player and he is not.

Mcbean · Mar 31, 2018

Have to say despite the post - none of our boys can deliver a corner like he can - a low rising fast ball

Nick · Mar 31, 2018

Reid can put in a decent corner.

Otis · Mar 31, 2018

Mcbean said:
Have to say despite the post - none of our boys can deliver a corner like he can - a low rising fast ball

He CAN do that and I do rate him, but he also floats too many in and the defence can find it easy to clear when he does so.

Mcbean · Mar 31, 2018

Nick said:
Reid can put in a decent corner.

He probably can - but can he do 90 mins - no doubt his impact has been really good over the last few games

rupert_bear · Mar 31, 2018

Our form has steadily improved since Shipley has established himself in the team, big fella and has a great left peg some on here don’t half speak some drivel.

luwalla · Mar 31, 2018

Has a great left peg, pretty much agreed... bottles every single tackle, pretty much agreed

To suggest our upturn in form is down to Shipley is wide if the mark in my opinion. Played as many games we lost as won I’d say. The upturn in form is more likely credited to Doyle coming back , McNulty banging them in, JCH arrival and great link up with McNulty & Tom Bayliss establishing himself as a proper talent... not Jordan Shipley “establishing” himself in the side!

Otis · Mar 31, 2018

luwalla said:
Has a great left peg, pretty much agreed... bottles every single tackle, pretty much agreed

To suggest our upturn in form is down to Shipley is wide if the mark in my opinion. Played as many games we lost as won I’d say. The upturn in form is more likely credited to Doyle coming back , McNulty banging them in, JCH arrival and great link up with McNulty & Tom Bayliss establishing himself as a proper talent... not Jordan Shipley “establishing” himself in the side!

Bayliss and JCH I would say.

Those two changes changed our fortunes.

vow · Mar 31, 2018

Also the 1-1 draw away to Mansfield when we went down to 10 men, galvanised the team also.

stevefloyd · Mar 31, 2018

Robins too has changed our fortunes, he has put the team together, he does get things wrong but atm he has given us our best season for many many a year

Liquid Gold · Mar 31, 2018

This is his first season in men's football, I'd say he's been more than adequate. Young player of the season if it wasn't for Bayliss being absolutely phenomenal.

Grendel · Mar 31, 2018

luwalla said:
Played as many games we lost as won I’d say.

You’d say wrong. Lost only 7 of the 26 games he’s featured in.

fatso · Mar 31, 2018

Reid should start on Monday as it’s a home game, Shipley should be on the bench in case we need to shure things up. I think Haynes should sit this one out too, if Reid plays we don’t need a marording left back.

CCFC54321 · Mar 31, 2018

Due to the lack of quality coaches at the u18,u23’s and the constant changing at that level over the last two years there’s not much ‘quality’ coaching happening at that level I’m afraid. Shipley mayy improve over time now he is in the first team picture. Any progression of the young players etc (Baylis etc) was/is due to excellent raw talent not quality coaching they received.

Warwickhunt · Mar 31, 2018

I think the youngster is carrying an injury which seasoned pro's know how to manage but he is still learning his craft. I think he needs a game off rest to help him

luwalla · Mar 31, 2018

Grendel said:
You’d say wrong. Lost only 7 of the 26 games he’s featured in.

‘featured in’ isn’t what I said.. I said won ... so from those games how many did we draw & win , and how many did he play most the match or come on a sub.

Anyway all that aside, I followed up specifically with the general point I was trying to make... which was related to the previous posters comment about Shipley’s run in the side contributing to our upturn in results... which I don’t agree with , I named the players who I felt that could apply to

Grendel · Mar 31, 2018

luwalla said:
‘featured in’ isn’t what I said.. I said won ... so from those games how many did we draw & win , and how many did he play most the match or come on a sub.

Anyway all that aside, I followed up specifically with the general point I was trying to make... which was related to the previous posters comment about Shipley’s run in the side contributing to our upturn in results... which I don’t agree with , I named the players who I felt that could apply to

You said he’d played in as many games lost as won. I was merely pointing out your inaccuracies

Won 12 lost 7

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 31, 2018

CCFC54321 said:
Due to the lack of quality coaches at the u18,u23’s and the constant changing at that level over the last two years there’s not much ‘quality’ coaching happening at that level I’m afraid. Shipley mayy improve over time now he is in the first team picture. Any progression of the young players etc (Baylis etc) was/is due to excellent raw talent not quality coaching they received.

This is the fourth time now you’ve had a ‘pop’ at Jason Farndon. I’m guessing you’ve had a run in with him or have heard things about his methods which you don’t like? Not too sure.

Bayliss didn’t have excellent raw talent at all. At 16 he was nearly not given a scholar by the club. He wasn’t one of the best in his age group. Being in full time improved his game massively.

Another thing I’ll say is that every player who has moved on from the club to bigger and better things has praised Farndon (amongst others) for helping them to develop

Otis · Mar 31, 2018

fatso said:
Reid should start on Monday as it’s a home game, Shipley should be on the bench in case we need to shure things up. I think Haynes should sit this one out too, if Reid plays we don’t need a marording left back.

Not sure a mic would help much to be honest.

Of course if you wanted to shore things up instead, you might want Shipley on the beach instead of on the bench.

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