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Match Thread Sheffield Wednesday - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 15th Feb (5 Viewers)

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Nick

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #1
Discuss the Sheffield Wednesday - Coventry City match, tactics and predictions
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #2
Beat the scummy racists, that’s it really.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Bannan and Bernard should be out which will help.

They're not great at all at home either.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Shea Charles and Gassama - that's about it. Ought to be able to play a high line, as their front man/men usually include Smith - huge, but pedestrian, and Patterson, who looks about 47 on a good day,
 
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napolimp

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #5
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Bannan and Bernard should be out which will help.

They're not great at all at home either.
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Bernard being out will help with avoiding injuries. Mark Bannan out the game and we've got a real chance at picking up points. Would take a draw, and keep winning at home.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #6
napolimp said:
Bernard being out will help with avoiding injuries. Mark Bannan out the game and we've got a real chance at picking up points. Would take a draw, and keep winning at home.
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Bannan is injured
 
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napolimp

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #7
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Bannan is injured
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Sorry didn't read your post properly. Best news I've heard so far this week.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Bannan and Bernard should be out which will help.

They're not great at all at home either.
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Not great? They have lost 1 in the last 8 at home.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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CV22SBA said:
Not great? They have lost 1 in the last 8 at home.
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17th in the form table at home. Most of those will be draws which as I said, isn't really that great.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #10
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Bannan and Bernard should be out which will help.

They're not great at all at home either.
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Won 5 of 16 home games, with the players they've got missing you'd have to say it's a big opportunity for another win
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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CV22SBA said:
Not great? They have lost 1 in the last 8 at home.
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Four of those games were against teams in the bottom six of the table
 

AOM

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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I imagine we'll start in the same formation we finished with last night. Fancy a win to keep momentum going
 

Lamps

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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CV22SBA said:
Not great? They have lost 1 in the last 8 at home.
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2 wins, 5 draws and 1 defeat. 11 points from their last 8 home games. Go back a couple more and they lost 2-6 to Watford.

You must admit only 2 wins out of their last 8 home games isn't great. Their last win at home was 1st January against Derby. The other one was against Stoke in December. They won at home once in October and no times in November.

If we win on Saturday we will have won as many games at their place this year as they have.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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fernandopartridge said:
Won 5 of 16 home games, with the players they've got missing you'd have to say it's a big opportunity for another win
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They're a pretty up and down side. Difficult to predict what kind of team will show up but as you say it's an opportunity for us to capitalise on them having key players out.

Hoping the extra day's rest will play into our hands as well.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Lamps said:
2 wins, 5 draws and 1 defeat. 11 points from their last 8 home games. Go back a couple more and they lost 2-6 to Watford.

You must admit only 2 wins out of their last 8 home games isn't great. Their last win at home was 1st January against Derby. The other one was against Stoke in December. They won at home once in October and no times in November.

If we win on Saturday we will have won as many games at their place this year as they have.
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They have lost once at home since 5th November.
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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AOM said:
I imagine we'll start in the same formation we finished with last night. Fancy a win to keep momentum going
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I think that depends on the fitness of Bidwell to start on the left; can't see us playing Da Silva in a back 4 away from home.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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CV22SBA said:
They have lost once at home since 5th November.
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1 loss, 5 draws 2 wins.

Clearly not an easy team to break down but 11 points from 8 games isn't a great return for home form.

They have the same No of points at home as Luton.
 
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Domo

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #18
2-1 win.
grimes to score, simms to be assisted by EMC
 
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napolimp

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Domo said:
2-1 win.
grimes to score, simms to be assisted by EMC
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The guys got 16 goals in 359 appearances in the Premier League and Championship
 
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Lamps

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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CV22SBA said:
They have lost once at home since 5th November.
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They won once at home in October. No wins at home in November. They won once in December. Their last win at home was January 1st.

That's poor by any standard.
 

AOM

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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nunchuckas said:
I think that depends on the fitness of Bidwell to start on the left; can't see us playing Da Silva in a back 4 away from home.
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Yeah, he seemed to be warming up all night yesterday. Hopefully fit enough to start
 
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Domo

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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napolimp said:
The guys got 16 goals in 359 appearances in the Premier League and Championship
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then hes overdue a goal!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Got draw written all over it this has. Which is take but we need a win to keep the playoff dream alive really.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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shmmeee said:
Got draw written all over it this has. Which is take but we need a win to keep the playoff dream alive really.
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How is the play off dream dead if we don't win an away game in February
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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fernandopartridge said:
How is the play off dream dead if we don't win an away game in February
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Because we need to win the majority of this block of six. If we drop points here we need to pick them up in harder games like Sheff Utd and Sunderland. We can maybe afford to not win one of the six IMO.
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Ideally we need to rack up a few points over our next 5 as we have a tough run after that. I suspect we will draw this but a win really would help and is likely what we need to sustain a real run at the top 6.
 

Balli001

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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shmmeee said:
Because we need to win the majority of this block of six. If we drop points here we need to pick them up in harder games like Sheff Utd and Sunderland. We can maybe afford to not win one of the six IMO.
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Other teams will also have periods of hard games too
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Not one to wish injury on anybody really, but this was the dirty shithouse who elbowed Jamie Allen and ruled him out for the rest of last season - so fuck him
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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shmmeee said:
Because we need to win the majority of this block of six. If we drop points here we need to pick them up in harder games like Sheff Utd and Sunderland. We can maybe afford to not win one of the six IMO.
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We need to get another 26-27 points at least. As much as you might say the initial block of games present the easiest route to them they are not the only route.

I am just recalling going to watch us play and draw 0-0 at Wigan in March 2023, where Hamer missed a great chance in the last minute. As much as it might have felt like the dream was over at that point, it definitely wasn't.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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shmmeee said:
Because we need to win the majority of this block of six. If we drop points here we need to pick them up in harder games like Sheff Utd and Sunderland. We can maybe afford to not win one of the six IMO.
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This is way off the mark. Football never really works that way either.

Looking at the form of teams around us and the general quality which we've come up against I suspect the No. of points to get into the POs this year is going to be lower than in years previous. No one us really running away with it apart from the top 4. The rest are in pretty indifferent form.

We'd probably need around 70 points rather than the 75 which is often the case. Meaning we need to achieve a PPG of 1.8ish.

7/8 wins and a few draws should do it.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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fernandopartridge said:
We need to get another 26-27 points at least. As much as you might say the initial block of games present the easiest route to them they are not the only route.

I am just recalling going to watch us play and draw 0-0 at Wigan in March 2023, where Hamer missed a great chance in the last minute. As much as it might have felt like the dream was over at that point, it definitely wasn't.
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Sure anything can happen. Just saying I think a draw is a decent result given their home form, but really you’d want us to be winning if we’re looking at playoffs.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
This is way off the mark. Football never really works that way.

Looking at the form of teams around us and the general quality which we've come up against I suspect the No. of points to get into the POs this year is going to be lower than in years previous. No one us really running away with it apart from the top 4. The rest are in pretty indifferent form.

We'd probably need around 70 points rather than the 75+ which is often the case. Meaning we need to achieve a PPG of 1.8ish.
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70pts really means we need 12 from this block of 5 (9 from the next four), 7 from the block of Derby, 3 of the Top 4, Portsmouth, 12 from the last five.

Thats why I think we can only afford to not win one of the next four.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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Balli001 said:
Other teams will also have periods of hard games too
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Well that’s the other side is you’re hoping no one else picks up form, which seems unlikely. Ultimately we have 4-6 points to make up once games in hand and goal difference is accounted for. So we need to be that much better than 5-10th. It’s a big ask.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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shmmeee said:
70pts really means we need 12 from this block of 5 (9 from the next four), 7 from the block of Derby, 3 of the Top 4, Portsmouth, 12 from the last five.

Thats why I think we can only afford to not win one of the next four.
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Yeah obviously we can't be dropping too many points in this current block before playing Sunderland, Sheff U and Burnley.

But equally it's not the be all and end all that we have to pick up maximum points against the next 5. Three wins and a draw would put us in a pretty strong position.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Feb 12, 2025
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shmmeee said:
Well that’s the other side is you’re hoping no one else picks up form, which seems unlikely. Ultimately we have 4-6 points to make up once games in hand and goal difference is accounted for. So we need to be that much better than 5-10th. It’s a big ask.
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Middlesbrough, Blackburn and West Brom are all in mid-table form or lower though. Teams below us don't look particularly threatening either.

I don't disagree that we need to be capitalising on teams like Wednesday which are up and down and have injury issues, but it's not season defining.

There's 42 points up for grabs and we probably need around 26/27.
 
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