Whats the amount of away fans got to do with it , money is money , that's what all clubs exist for ,what a stupid thing to say
So ,Just how Big Is a 60 Acre Site,anyone think of somewhere for comparison .
ames
ooh 6 times in 10 years what a big club we are. 4 of those for cups (remind me how many fans we had for the league game post Chelsea?) and 2 games with massive away followings. 20k is easily enough -buy a season ticket and guarantee a seat if you REALLY think we need bigger than that.
quite a lot. We filled the Ricoh TWICE, yep twice. We couldnt even sell out the first game (with a capacity of 23k) 15k would be a sustainable and stabilizing target - whats the point of having an average gate of 11,000 and then 32,000 once a year. Much better to aim for 15,000 every week - and we would be miles of that even back at the Ricoh.
ames
ooh 6 times in 10 years what a big club we are. 4 of those for cups (remind me how many fans we had for the league game post Chelsea?) and 2 games with massive away followings. 20k is easily enough -buy a season ticket and guarantee a seat if you REALLY think we need bigger than that.
Try using this tool on a site.. http://www.freemaptools.com/area-calculator.htm, here is one I did earlier..
So we could have two Ricoh's and two main roads cutting through the middle. Or is Timothy twisting the truth again?
that's only the top 6, if you look at all attendances that would be too big for the proposed new ground by season then you get this:
2005/06 - 16
2006/07 - 12
2007/08 - 11
2008/09 - 5
2009/10 - 3
2010/11 - 3
2011/12 - 3
2012/13 - 1
Actually when you look at what has happened since SISU took over there has been a drastic decline in numbers but to think if we ever got back in the championship or even the prem that 20K would be enough is crazy. Remember on top of capacity you will lose some seating to segregation. Look at the likes of Southampton (who are talking of putting a second tier on) or Norwich, why could we not get similar crowds to them with a bit of success? The JPT final showed that the slightest hint of success and people will come back.
if we're getting a 60 acre site that should cut down the options so can those who live locally suggest sites that would be that big and not in green belt?
So we could have two Ricoh's and two main roads cutting through the middle. Or is Timothy twisting the truth again?
quite a lot. We filled the Ricoh TWICE, yep twice. We couldnt even sell out the first game (with a capacity of 23k) 15k would be a sustainable and stabilizing target - whats the point of having an average gate of 11,000 and then 32,000 once a year. Much better to aim for 15,000 every week - and we would be miles of that even back at the Ricoh.
WTF are you talking about? First game at the Ricoh the capacity was limited to 23k. The attendance was 23k, yet your saying it wasn't a sell out?
Half of it would have to be retail (like arena park) or commercial (like Ryton) to obtain partnership funding..
Actually 60acres is probably almost exactly the same area as Ricoh + Arena retail park
Was thinking this earlier .
It would have to be a satalite town around Coventry ,I cannot think of a suburb of the City that Is'nt already well served .
Kenilworth Bedworth Nuneaton Rugby Meriden Gap.
that's only the top 6, if you look at all attendances that would be too big for the proposed new ground by season then you get this:
2005/06 - 16
2006/07 - 12
2007/08 - 11
2008/09 - 5
2009/10 - 3
2010/11 - 3
2011/12 - 3
2012/13 - 1
Actually when you look at what has happened since SISU took over there has been a drastic decline in numbers but to think if we ever got back in the championship or even the prem that 20K would be enough is crazy. Remember on top of capacity you will lose some seating to segregation. Look at the likes of Southampton (who are talking of putting a second tier on) or Norwich, why could we not get similar crowds to them with a bit of success? The JPT final showed that the slightest hint of success and people will come back.
So if I'm interpreting sisu bullshit correctly, the initial investment in the new stadium will come from selling Ryton?
Past mistakes repeating themselves?
that's only the top 6, if you look at all attendances that would be too big for the proposed new ground by season then you get this:
2005/06 - 16
2006/07 - 12
2007/08 - 11
2008/09 - 5
2009/10 - 3
2010/11 - 3
2011/12 - 3
2012/13 - 1
Actually when you look at what has happened since SISU took over there has been a drastic decline in numbers but to think if we ever got back in the championship or even the prem that 20K would be enough is crazy. Remember on top of capacity you will lose some seating to segregation. Look at the likes of Southampton (who are talking of putting a second tier on) or Norwich, why could we not get similar crowds to them with a bit of success? The JPT final showed that the slightest hint of success and people will come back.
I wonder how much Jimmy Hill got for the Connexion?
Can you please stop coming out with the truth?
Ok your right. Its ok to gamble with the companies fixed assets.
You've just lost any authority in being critical of Richardson then.
What were the championship attendances at HR before the move to the Ricoh?
The Ricoh had an initial pulling power, including opposition fans wanted to see a new stadium and chalk it off their list, but I do think attendance were starting to decline back to the HR level anyway. Sisu's first season (2008/09) in charge, with investment in the squad was about 3-4k lower than than the first season at the Ricoh and had the 1/3rd of the amount of 20k+ attendances than the first season and that's before you throw in sisu's poor tenure.
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Averages below. Still higher than the initial capacity of the Garlick Bowl. Coincidently it also blows away the myth that HR was more appealing to fans as comparable crowds were always much higher at the Ricoh.
16048 14816 14813 16150
Averages below. Still higher than the initial capacity of the Garlick Bowl. Coincidently it also blows away the myth that HR was more appealing to fans as comparable crowds were always much higher at the Ricoh.
I'm just saying you're right. We should learn by past mistakes. They haven't only been made by SISU and Richardson but by Hill too. Selling the Connexion was a mistake as was the whole Washington Diplomats fiasco.
Averages below. Still higher than the initial capacity of the Garlick Bowl. Coincidently it also blows away the myth that HR was more appealing to fans as comparable crowds were always much higher at the Ricoh.
04/05 16048
03/04 14816
02/03 14813
01/02 16150
True, but a lot of that is because of the away end 6-7k is it at the Ricoh? It couldn't have been much more than 1.5-2k at HR?
Selling off a sports hall is hardly comparable to selling the ground or the companies last fixed asset.
Comparing attendances to Highfield Road in it's last 4 seasons to the shiny, new Ricoh after it had just happened is a null and void arguement.
It was nearly 4k at HR IIRC.
I think the impact of away crowds is miniscule when averaged out. When you see that over the course of the season Andy Thorn drew in more fans than Eric Black then the Ricoh was clearly more popular.
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