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Several EFL Clubs “days away from going bust” (1 Viewer)

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cc84cov

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Sky sports running this story some top EFL club bosses want this season cancelled,apparently it’s a growing number who want this they said.
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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How does cancelling the season mean impact 'days away from going bust'? If anything it will be worse financially as they will have to hand back a portion of season ticket money, TV contracts etc. Not to mention the possibility of lawsuits to claim back money spent on games that were supposed to be competitive but have retrospectively been made meaningless.

Doesn't make sense to me, suspect its just a case of Sky running out of things to talk about.
 
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AStonesThrow

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #3
Several EFL clubs 'days away from going bust' amid wage dispute

For any who want a read
 

LastGarrison

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #4
chiefdave said:
How does cancelling the season mean impact 'days away from going bust'? If anything it will be worse financially as they will have to hand back a portion of season ticket money, TV contracts etc. Not to mention the possibility of lawsuits to claim back money spent on games that were supposed to be competitive but have retrospectively been made meaningless.

Doesn't make sense to me, suspect its just a case of Sky running out of things to talk about.
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Exactly.

And surely by playing more matches it generates more income? Even if it is just through TV sales?
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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chiefdave said:
How does cancelling the season mean impact 'days away from going bust'? If anything it will be worse financially as they will have to hand back a portion of season ticket money, TV contracts etc. Not to mention the possibility of lawsuits to claim back money spent on games that were supposed to be competitive but have retrospectively been made meaningless.

Doesn't make sense to me, suspect its just a case of Sky running out of things to talk about.
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Doesn't make sense. If they get the games on behind closed doors and sell online it could be pretty lucrative
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #6
LastGarrison said:
Exactly.

And surely by playing more matches it generates more income? Even if it is just through TV sales?
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Perhaps it's because sky won't have the games and ifollow will? Bit of muck throwing from sky? Or just stupity
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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This is the reason the season needs to be ended PPG. Now. Immediately.
I’d hate to see some clubs relegated on the back of admin. If they go into admin and survive they should start with -10 or -15 wherever they are. But they should not stop us going up.
There may even be some further problems with the Championship so better to end the season on merit rather than voiding games.
Not forgetting that we may be one of the clubs in trouble....fair chance but for the transfer revenue.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Flying Fokker said:
This is the reason the season needs to be ended PPG. Now. Immediately.
I’d hate to see some clubs relegated on the back of admin. If they go into admin and survive they should start with -10 or -15 wherever they are. But they should not stop us going up.
There may even be some further problems with the Championship so better to end the season on merit rather than voiding games.
Not forgetting that we may be one of the clubs in trouble....fair chance but for the transfer revenue.
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But how does that help their situation? They still have no income before next season and when that starts they still won't be allowed fans in the ground. So what they need are games played in front of crowds. Whether those games relate to this season or next is irrelevant.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But how does that help their situation? They still have no income before next season and when that starts they still won't be allowed fans in the ground. So what they need are games played in front of crowds. Whether those games relate to this season or next is irrelevant.
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Yep. It’s nonsense.
 

larry_david

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #10
'One league 1 is close to cancelling all player contracts' - yeah, course they fucking are. Do that they won't have a club to worry about anyway
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But how does that help their situation? They still have no income before next season and when that starts they still won't be allowed fans in the ground. So what they need are games played in front of crowds. Whether those games relate to this season or next is irrelevant.
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I think we could be playing in the Championship regardless of promotion and we could end up with just 3 professional tiers.
Bearing in mind this is what the Championship is mulling over at the moment there must be some value in it.

They will have to prove they have a sustainable business model...so unless they have money pumped in then no, they ain’t going to survive without games anyway. It surely depends if there is revenue to pay wages until matches start in front of crowds or they get match coverage revenues.

Because they start again....like we had to. Under a clearer business model and controlled debts based on CVA’s

Football needs a reset and unfortunately this is likely to be the moment.
 

covcity4life

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #12
Not heard much from sisu

Hope that means there is no reason to panic at city currently
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #13
Darragh MacAnthony has been on talk sport drive. Anyone hear what he had to say?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #14
I've had a theory on how to end the season since this shit started. Cannot believe they havent looked at it.

Ppg average for the remaining games.

Eg.

Sunderland are 1.20 PPG average 8 games left. Times the 8 by 1.20 = 9.6 points added to their current total.

Us 1.97 ppg average 10 games left Give us 19.7 more points

Theres been over 75% of the season to show that PPG isn't an anomaly as we all agree.

Unfortunately still will be clubs not happy but thats the fairest way by a mile
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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The Scottish leagues have now ended apart from Prem and Champs and relegation places set. They simply had to do it so the clubs could get there league prize money . It will happen now in the Leagues in England . Apart from Prem
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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BackRoomRummermill said:
The Scottish leagues have now ended apart from Prem and Champs and relegation places set. They simply had to do it so the clubs could get there league prize money . It will happen now in the Leagues in England . Apart from Prem
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Is that a guess re happening in England or have you read something about it?
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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No it’s a reasoned assumption , for the English leagues only apart from Prem . It would see us Champions
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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BackRoomRummermill said:
The Scottish leagues have now ended apart from Prem and Champs and relegation places set. They simply had to do it so the clubs could get there league prize money . It will happen now in the Leagues in England . Apart from Prem
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I think it could happen in the PL too, the smaller clubs will soon kick up a fuss, they don’t have infinite amounts of money.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Sick Boy said:
I think it could happen in the PL too, the smaller clubs will soon kick up a fuss, they don’t have infinite amounts of money.
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Breaking news Dundee have voted for it just now so I reckon PL as well
 

Sick Boy

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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BackRoomRummermill said:
Breaking news Dundee have voted for it just now so I reckon PL as well
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Yeah was just about to post that.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #21
How Much Prize Money For Winning L2? | Vital Plymouth Argyle

Was looking for the prize money for winning the league. Can only find this from a quick Google. Seems there is no extra cash for finishing top. In terms of league one prize money.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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It’s just a matter of time for the reset button , too many things dangling around , draw a line under it and make us Champions
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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As always Scotland goes first if it’s not poll tax then smoking bans !
 
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larry_david

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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I'm not the only one who does not want to be champions this way. In 30 years time when we've had no other glory to mention and my kids ask me, 'dad dad what diid it feel like when Coventry won their title in 2020'

'fuck knows son we were all sat indoors'

Nah I want the glory!!!
 
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larry_david

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Dunno why they're talking like they're 7 years old. Forget the maths you know what I mean
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #26
Skybluefaz said:
How Much Prize Money For Winning L2? | Vital Plymouth Argyle

Was looking for the prize money for winning the league. Can only find this from a quick Google. Seems there is no extra cash for finishing top. In terms of league one prize money.
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Bolton would love that money a total of 1.3 ish million
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #27
Haven't UEFA said if local federations end their leagues early they will lose their Champions League and Europa League places?
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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chiefdave said:
Haven't UEFA said if local federations end their leagues early they will lose their Champions League and Europa League places?
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How could they run a competition with so many missing if you know what I mean
 

Sick Boy

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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chiefdave said:
Haven't UEFA said if local federations end their leagues early they will lose their Champions League and Europa League places?
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Think that only applies to the top leagues?
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Sick Boy said:
Think that only applies to the top leagues?
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But we all know nothing happens without the approval of the Prem as they just threaten to end solidarity payments. Would also need their agreement on promotion and relegation.

Also if you cancel the Championship, L1 and L2 but the Prem say they are going to complete the season then you have seasons out of sync with each other. Opens up a whole can of worms.

Maybe its just the case that in Scotland the TV deals have little value so they'd rather receive the prize money and have to hand back any TV money & season ticket money. Not sure its as easy as just saying end the season and giving out money.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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chiefdave said:
But we all know nothing happens without the approval of the Prem as they just threaten to end solidarity payments. Would also need their agreement on promotion and relegation.

Also if you cancel the Championship, L1 and L2 but the Prem say they are going to complete the season then you have seasons out of sync with each other. Opens up a whole can of worms.

Maybe its just the case that in Scotland the TV deals have little value so they'd rather receive the prize money and have to hand back any TV money & season ticket money. Not sure its as easy as just saying end the season and giving out money.
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The premier league also want to end it and now a committee has been set to to agree an SPL expansion programme
 

Sick Boy

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #32
Premier League clubs join forces to call for an end to season by June 30
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #33
How does cancelling the season help clubs in financial trouble? Surely these clubs would rather restart the season, so as to bring some much needed income in.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 15, 2020
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Legia Sky Blue said:
How does cancelling the season help clubs in financial trouble? Surely these clubs would rather restart the season, so as to bring some much needed income in.
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I assume the TV money will be released and they can cancel expired contracts at the end of May
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #35
Surely cancelling the season now will mean an even longer period of no football than usual. Also I though a lot of L1/L2 were using the government furlough scheme to support with wages - plus there were payments in from the FA and PL were there not?

Notice how as well it’s the PL clubs that have been shit this year...
 
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