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Seppala Interview on Sky Sports News (6 Viewers)

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Grendel

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #421
Danceswithhorses said:
Fisher/Wagott apparently had negotiated a much lower rent circa 400k? and had shook hands on it, but joy went back on it and refused to sign.
I believe the 100k pa is for use of the stadium on matchdays only, and not renting the stadium 24/7
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The lower rent was for a limited period and reverted back after two seasons
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #422
pusbccfc said:
I do believe Sepalla saw the numbers and Wembley and does honestly think this club can progress much further than previously anticipated. She can see the money signs of the championship.
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Thats what we hope!
 

jordan210

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #423
I'm intrigued to see what happens next.

We must be over due a statement by the council.
 

higgs

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #424
Is not paying the sent and moving to Northampton the main reason why sisu are so hated?

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #425
higgs said:
Is not paying the sent and moving to Northampton the main reason why sisu are so hated?

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The cold hearted pursuit of profit while not caring about what happens to the club will do for me.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #426
jordan210 said:
I'm intrigued to see what happens next.

We must be over due a statement by the council.
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I am not sure they will, they will just say "Drop the legals".
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #427
SkyBlueCRJ said:
Does she? You only have to look at the money being spent in the Championship even by the lesser teams to realise that promotion isn’t all roses. The Championship in 2011/12 is a different kettle of fish to what it is now.
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that's why I am of the opinion that if we get to the Championship they'll sell.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #428
higgs said:
Is not paying the sent and moving to Northampton the main reason why sisu are so hated?

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Not particularly fussed about the rent strike, but the Northampton move has pretty much crippled the fan base.

Other than that they’re only guilty of withdrawing the funding - I seem to remember they stopped funding in January of the boothroyd season. Then we replaced King, Gunarsson, Westwood etc with Murphy Chris Dunn and McDonald.

This is when the sisu out stuff started. Again, my annoyance with football fans... when the transfers stop - the owners are automatically shit.
 
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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #429
clint van damme said:
that's why I am of the opinion that if we get to the Championship they'll sell.
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Or try and stay up with a limited budget and, if fail, try and bounce.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #430
Deleted member 5849 said:
Or try and stay up with a limited budget and, if fail, try and bounce.
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I've based my opinion on the sell at the top of the cycle comment, admittedly it was by fisher so perhaps not to be taken too seriously.
But if it is true, just getting to the Championship is pretty much top of the cycle unless you're prepared to underwrite the eye watering sums Brighton, Bournemouth and Villa did or have faith in your manager to do what Wilder did at blades.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #431
clint van damme said:
I've based my opinion on the sell at the top of the cycle comment, admittedly it was by fisher so perhaps not to be taken too seriously.
But if it is true, just getting to the Championship is pretty much top of the cycle unless you're prepared to underwrite the eye watering sums Brighton, Bournemouth and Villa did or have faith in your manager to do what Wilder did at blades.
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They'd probably look at Holloway at Blackpool and hope.

Or find new investment, with the same terrifying consequences if it went wrong.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #432
clint van damme said:
that's why I am of the opinion that if we get to the Championship they'll sell.
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I’d agree with that. Would be interesting to see how much she’d demand though. Wigan was sold for £20M last summer and that was inclusive of their stadium etc. The only thing that concerns me is that even with promotion to the Championship her asking price could still potentially be ridiculous
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #433
theferret said:
Although, the council were forced to pay back us back this money.
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Don’t think we got a lot of it back. Seem to recall the council citing a time limit on claiming a refund and only paying back the last two or three years.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #434
SkyBlueCRJ said:
I’d agree with that. Would be interesting to see how much she’d demand though. Wigan was sold for £20M last summer and that was inclusive of their stadium etc. The only thing that concerns me is that even with promotion to the Championship her asking price could still potentially be ridiculous
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I expect it will be. If the price is too high now I doubt a promotion will give them a reality Check with regard to what the club is worth
 
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theferret

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #435
chiefdave said:
Don’t think we got a lot of it back. Seem to recall the council citing a time limit on claiming a refund and only paying back the last two or three years.
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Doesn't surprise me. Bunch of crooks.
 

duffer

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #436
Nick said:
Would that not be covered in what was signed to say there would be no more legal action regarding it that Wasps needed before they even started talks?
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That certainly seems to be what SISU are claiming. As ever, from where we sit as fans it's very hard to see the truth. It's a bit like trying to follow a high ball from the back of the old West End!

Either way though, indemnifying Wasps against Council malfeasance is none of our business. By design we were specifically excluded from the deal, if there was anything dicey about it Wasps should look to their advisors for a remedy.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #437
duffer said:
That certainly seems to be what SISU are claiming. As ever, from where we sit as fans it's very hard to see the truth. It's a bit like trying to follow a high ball from the back of the old West End!
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There's enough in her interview to suggest a perfectly valid reading that she wanted it open for Otium to continue to pursue action.

I've no doubt there'd end up legal action over what constituted legal action too, tbh.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #438
Deleted member 5849 said:
There's enough in her interview to suggest a perfectly valid reading that she wanted it open for Otium to continue to pursue action.

I've no doubt there'd end up legal action over what constituted legal action too, tbh.
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There was enough for Wasps to start talks after they said it was needed before they even discussed anything wasn't there?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #439
Nick said:
There was enough for Wasps to start talks after they said it was needed before they even discussed anything wasn't there?
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What you're suggesting is flexibility and willingness on Wasps' part to negotiate a deal, that's then stymied by bad faith on thge part of SISU not disclosing what they've been doing. Therefore, in Wasps' position, it's hardly surprising they may not be confident on what comes up in the future. Subsequent readings do nothing but confirm that, in Wasps' position, you'd stop giving the benefit of the doubt really, don't they.
 
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bluesky88

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #440
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Not particularly fussed about the rent strike, but the Northampton move has pretty much crippled the fan base.

Other than that they’re only guilty of withdrawing the funding - I seem to remember they stopped funding in January of the boothroyd season. Then we replaced King, Gunarsson, Westwood etc with Murphy Chris Dunn and McDonald.

This is when the sisu out stuff started. Again, my annoyance with football fans... when the transfers stop - the owners are automatically shit.
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Npower Championship Table
4th December 2010

Position Team P GD PTS
1 QPR 19 26 41
2 Cardiff 20 14 37
3 Swansea 20 10 36
4 Norwich 20 6 33

5 Coventry 20 5 33

Shame Seppala did not take a bit more interest in CCFC and the Premiership back in 2010 - things might have been so much different?
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #441
Deleted member 5849 said:
What you're suggesting is flexibility and willingness on Wasps' part to negotiate a deal, that's then stymied by bad faith on thge part of SISU not disclosing what they've been doing. Therefore, in Wasps' position, it's hardly surprising they may not be confident on what comes up in the future. Subsequent readings do nothing but confirm that, in Wasps' position, you'd stop giving the benefit of the doubt really, don't they.
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Ah so the legals weren't dropped and nothing was really signed to say it but it was just Wasps being flexible and willing to do a deal after saying for months they won't even talk until they are dropped?

You will be telling us they didn't know until Gilbert revealed it next...
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #442
bluesky88 said:
Npower Championship Table
4th December 2010

Position Team P GD PTS
1 QPR 19 26 41
2 Cardiff 20 14 37
3 Swansea 20 10 36
4 Norwich 20 6 33

5 Coventry 20 5 33

Shame Seppala did not take a bit more interest in CCFC and the Premiership back in 2010 - things might have been so much different?
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Wow! Wonder what squad we had back then
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #443
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wow! Wonder what squad we had back then
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Clive Platt and Marlon King
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #444
The interview is on Skysports website now.

Video (Sky Sports)
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #445
Nick said:
Ah so the legals weren't dropped and nothing was really signed to say it but it was just Wasps being flexible and willing to do a deal after saying for months they won't even talk until they are dropped?

You will be telling us they didn't know until Gilbert revealed it next...
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What?!?

Do you disagree with the fact that SISU have acted in bad faith by not revealing all they were doing?

Would you seriously trust any SISU proclamation at face value?

I was once told that the reason anti-SISU posts died a death was because there was nothing to argue with. Surely there's nothing remotely contentious in either of those questions? Surely we all nod and agree with them?
 

Nick

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #446
Deleted member 5849 said:
What?!?

Do you disagree with the fact that SISU have acted in bad faith by not revealing all they were doing?

Would you seriously trust any SISU proclamation at face value?

I was once told that the reason anti-SISU posts died a death was because there was nothing to argue with. Surely there's nothing remotely contentious in either of those questions? Surely we all nod and agree with them?
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They have all acted in bad faith haven't they? You are trying to make out Wasps are some lovely people who just want to help CCFC.

They are all plotting and scheming. I wouldn't trust much at face value which is why I try to peace things together. Wasps said they wouldn't talk until something happened, CCFC / SISU said that something happened, talks actually happened. You are now trying to say Wasps just commenced talks without it because they wanted a deal after refusing to talk about it for months because of it?

Do you think Wasps also acted in bad faith in any way?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #447
Deleted member 5849 said:
What?!?

Do you disagree with the fact that SISU have acted in bad faith by not revealing all they were doing?

Would you seriously trust any SISU proclamation at face value?

I was once told that the reason anti-SISU posts died a death was because there was nothing to argue with. Surely there's nothing remotely contentious in either of those questions? Surely we all nod and agree with them?
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In all fairness - the original caveat was that SISU stop all legals proceedings against Wasps,

What they do complaint wise and against the council wasn’t part of the caveat - a technicality I know. But in theory that’s for nothing to do with Wasps
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #448
Nick said:
They have all acted in bad faith haven't they? You are trying to make out Wasps are some lovely people who just want to help CCFC.
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I'm really not.

Do you agree that SISU have acted in bad faith by not diclosing their actions?
 

Nick

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #449
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'm really not.

Do you agree that SISU have acted in bad faith by not diclosing their actions?
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Yes if they didn't tell anybody it had been reported.

What you're suggesting is flexibility and willingness on Wasps' part to negotiate a deal
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You were suggesting they weren't bothered about the legals being called off and just wanted a deal. They were obviously happy with what was signed else they wouldn't have commenced talks?

Is it in good faith with the Wasps / Hoffman romance?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #450
Deleted member 5849 said:
Do you agree that SISU have acted in bad faith by not diclosing their actions?
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The complaint to the EC was about a third party not Wasps. It didn't fall within the requirements Wasps had put in place which the club met prior to Wasps changing the terms.

Presumably if there was a requirement for everyone to be upfront about things involving third parties Wasps informed the club they were talking to Hoffman?
 
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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #451
Nick said:
Yes if they didn't tell anybody it had been reported.
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Excellent. So why are you arguing with my point?
 
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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #452
chiefdave said:
The complaint to the EC was about a third party not Wasps
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So this will have no consequence to Wasps, will not involve Wasps, and is a total irrelevance to Wasps?

My word yes, no wonder they weren't told!
 

Nick

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #453
Deleted member 5849 said:
Excellent. So why are you arguing with my point?
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The point wasn't about the bad faith it was about the stuff being signed to stop the legals....
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 25, 2019
  • #454
Deleted member 5849 said:
So this will have no consequence to Wasps, will not involve Wasps, and is a total irrelevance to Wasps?

My word yes, no wonder they weren't told!
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If, as we have repeatedly been assured, the council did not wrong then there will be no consequence to Wasps, will not involve Wasps, and is a total irrelevance to Wasps.

Its simple, Wasps put a condition in place. The club and SISU met that condition. The condition was changed.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 25, 2019
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Deleted member 5849 said:
So this will have no consequence to Wasps, will not involve Wasps, and is a total irrelevance to Wasps?

My word yes, no wonder they weren't told!
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Only if the council are found to be at fault which as Wasps would have made sure everything is watertight isn't a worry at all.

They then had enough signed to say there would be no further action to do with the Ricoh sale to be able to commence talks didn't they?
 
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