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MalcSB

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  • Dec 8, 2023
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Does the disposition of away fans tonight show that the problem is genuinely with the concourse?
 

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JAM See

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  • Dec 8, 2023
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Bottom right. What the actual fuck!

 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #3
JAM See said:
Bottom right. What the actual fuck!

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That will have hurt them even more



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hamertime

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #4
Was the best support they’ve had here for ages, went flat after we started to take control on 20 mins. They knew the writing was on the wall. We’ve got Callum Ohare end of
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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JAM See said:
Bottom right. What the actual fuck!

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Long walk home
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #6
pusbccfc said:
Long walk home
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The borderlands,a couple of miles out from my old stomping ground!
 
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junglej13

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #7
Wondered whether tonight was used as a bit of a pilot to reduce the segregation by singers corner. Has the segregation been as small for any other game this season?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #8
MalcSB said:
Does the disposition of away fans tonight show that the problem is genuinely with the concourse?
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Didn't Birmingham get 4500 last year.

Won't be like this again, let's be honest.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #9
Birmingham had an allocation of 4480 in April.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #10
junglej13 said:
Wondered whether tonight was used as a bit of a pilot to reduce the segregation by singers corner. Has the segregation been as small for any other game this season?
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Well it didn’t help our fans charging at them and going through the Jimmy Hill flag for both goals. We don’t help ourselves sometimes do we.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #11
CV22SBA said:
Well it didn’t help our fans charging at them and going through the Jimmy Hill flag for both goals. We don’t help ourselves sometimes do we.
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Exactly why we don't need the segregation, if no gap there's nowhere to go. Just a couple of rows of stewards and coppers is sufficient.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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What was the deal with blocks 4 and 8 (??) being empty? Or were they all in the posh bar all game?
 

MalcSB

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #13
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
What was the deal with blocks 4 and 8 (??) being empty? Or were they all in the posh bar all game?
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Prebooked Christmas event in the lounges
 
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MalcSB

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #14
WestEndAgro said:
Exactly why we don't need the segregation, if no gap there's nowhere to go. Just a couple of rows of stewards and coppers is sufficient.
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But they wont put home fans there because the problem is the concourse. The reason there appears to be so much segregation most of the time is because most of the time only a couple of thousand away tickets are sold.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #15
MalcSB said:
But they wont put home fans there because the problem is the concourse. The reason there appears to be so much segregation most of the time is because most of the time only a couple of thousand away tickets are sold.
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They could open 13. It's only closed because of that one single incident over two years ago against Derby.

There's plenty room in the concourse in the corner.

It's mental hearing stuff about the concourse when you visit places like Ipswich and QPR every week where you cannot breathe.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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That could say the problem is with them tbf?
 
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napolimp

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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MalcSB said:
Prebooked Christmas event in the lounges
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Are there no ST holders in there?
 

MalcSB

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #18
napolimp said:
Are there no ST holders in there?
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They are pretty much all “hospitality” season tickets - Club Coventry etc. I have no idea where they were accommodated as an alternative. IIRC there was a bit of a fuss when the fixture was moved from today.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #19
junglej13 said:
Wondered whether tonight was used as a bit of a pilot to reduce the segregation by singers corner. Has the segregation been as small for any other game this season?
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If that wasn’t the intention, it serves that purpose anyway. It looks like they could have had 6k if they wanted to as well.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 9, 2023
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hamertime said:
Was the best support they’ve had here for ages, went flat after we started to take control on 20 mins. They knew the writing was on the wall. We’ve got Callum Ohare end of
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Last season? The results make the difference. Early on I thought we were going to have to listen to them all night. Not looking forward to Leicester coming.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #21
MalcSB said:
They are pretty much all “hospitality” season tickets - Club Coventry etc. I have no idea where they were accommodated as an alternative. IIRC there was a bit of a fuss when the fixture was moved from today.
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Club Coventry is only blocks B & E and we didn’t need to move. I think it was Legends and moved to the balcony but not 100% sure. Looked shit on TV though like the ground was empty.
 

MalcSB

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #22
CV22SBA said:
Club Coventry is only blocks B & E and we didn’t need to move. I think it was Legends and moved to the balcony but not 100% sure. Looked shit on TV though like the ground was empty.
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Thanks for the correction, I was right in principle but wrong in detail.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #23
Flying Fokker said:
Last season? The results make the difference. Early on I thought we were going to have to listen to them all night. Not looking forward to Leicester coming.
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No reason why we can’t beat them - if it wasn’t for the guy with the National Trust name we’d have beaten them away.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #24
napolimp said:
Are there no ST holders in there?
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They were moved to the upper tier, hence why it looked full for the first time this season
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 9, 2023
  • #25
JAM See said:
Bottom right. What the actual fuck!

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I seen that from the opposite end of the ground and likewise, was utterly disgusted!
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #26

Interesting
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #27

Original post
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #28
Blocks 4 and 5 now open for Boxing Day. Should be a 30K crowd as Wednesday in block 11 like Blues were.
 
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CCfC2023

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #29
napolimp said:
Are there no ST holders in there?
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They were on the upper balcony
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #30
CV22SBA said:
Blocks 4 and 5 now open for Boxing Day. Should be a 30K crowd as Wednesday in block 11 like Blues were.
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I'm a bit annoyed that I've bought a ticket already as I'd have liked to sit there

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Cov_92

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  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #31
junglej13 said:
Wondered whether tonight was used as a bit of a pilot to reduce the segregation by singers corner. Has the segregation been as small for any other game this season?
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Yes it was a pilot, the appetite is to have two small desegregation lines BLK 12+6. Some minority over zealous fans are causing an increased seg width, and the Jimmy Hill banner was damaged beyond repair.
 
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Cov_92

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  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #32
pusbccfc said:
Birmingham had an allocation of 4480 in April. View attachment 32733
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This fixture it was capped at 4k for safety reasons. Damage was minimal and behaviours manageable.
 
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Cov_92

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  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #33
WestEndAgro said:
Exactly why we don't need the segregation, if no gap there's nowhere to go. Just a couple of rows of stewards and coppers is sufficient.
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If it was only that simple, certain operational consideration for policing/stewarding at football based on risk have measured that impact on segregation. Gaps are now essential for Police/stewarding operations. Ideal world, remove some of the minority behaviours that cause a breech of the desegregation line. Jimmy Hill banner is now beyond repair. What do we get instead, more "black netted seats" it looks awful and kills the opportunity to sell seats for revenue.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #34
SOCCFC said:
If it was only that simple, certain operational consideration for policing/stewarding at football based on risk have measured that impact on segregation. Gaps are now essential for Police/stewarding operations. Ideal world, remove some.of the minority behaviours that cause a breech of the desegregation line. Jimmy Hill banner is now beyond repair. What do we get back, more.requests tom"black net seats" it looks awful and kills the opportunity to sell sets for revenue.
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Why are gaps essential here but not at lots of other grounds?...

If there's a gap, fans will run into it. As we saw with Derby, with our fans last week and plenty of other times.

This lack of understanding of football fans behaviour is bewildering.
 

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Boicey

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  • Dec 16, 2023
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A side issue, but how many cops or stewards would fancy standing right in the middle of two sets of chavs playing junior hardman for 90 mins?
 
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