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SRBs

New Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #211
torchomatic said:
Be careful you don't say anything about any potential owner - either for or against - as I may use it against you in six years time.
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There 'speaks' a real man!!
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #212
luwalla said:
ive never met paul fletcher, so ive no idea if he really is an "arrogant prick". but to fair to the guy, he was chief exec at huddersfield and oversaw an award winning new stadium for them.. he then went onto to be chief exec at Bolton & instigated & oversaw another award winning stadium build in the reebok arena.. he was then poached by the FA & oversaw part of the new wembley arena build before we poached him & he managed the ricoh build... he was then employed as the cheif exec at burnley , and during his time their they were promoted to the premier league

so if we are going to back someone on their past history, i dont think your going to win any arguments with Elliot over Paul Fletcher & his credentials!

that aside, on a personal basis, he may very well be an arrogant prick as you say.. all be it, an arrogant prick with an MBE for services to charity - so at least hes offsetting some of that "prickness" with doing some good for others..
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Copied and pasted form his own biog?
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #213
Bit mad, this.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #214
There speaks someone with the same username on all CCFC forums. That's not your way, is it? No, you'd rather have a new one every couple of months. I don't make usernames up to agree with myself either. :jerkit:

You really need to let it go and stop the stalking. You give yourself away every time. What a prick.

SRBs said:
There 'speaks' a real man!!
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valiant15

New Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #215
torchomatic said:
Welcome back.
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Sisu are the only game in town.
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #216
Joy Division said:
Copied and pasted form his own biog?
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nah but i did get the info from his profile.. as i think if you are going to start lauding or slating a person who is potentially going to be involved in the club, then the least you can do is actually look at their history of achievements or failures, rather than just make things up.. call it 'due diligence'
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #217
They are until the others make a bid rather than show "interest".

valiant15 said:
Sisu are the only game in town.
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #218
luwalla said:
ive never met paul fletcher, so ive no idea if he really is an "arrogant prick". but to fair to the guy, he was chief exec at huddersfield and oversaw an award winning new stadium for them.. he then went onto to be chief exec at Bolton & instigated & oversaw another award winning stadium build in the reebok arena.. he was then poached by the FA & oversaw part of the new wembley arena build before we poached him & he managed the ricoh build... he was then employed as the cheif exec at burnley , and during his time their they were promoted to the premier league

so if we are going to back someone on their past history, i dont think your going to win any arguments with Elliot over Paul Fletcher & his credentials!

that aside, on a personal basis, he may very well be an arrogant prick as you say.. all be it, an arrogant prick with an MBE for services to charity - so at least hes offsetting some of that "prickness" with doing some good for others..
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I think you forgot to mention also was instrumental in ACLs rental agreement with the club and now says that the club cannot exsist with this rental agreement or did I imagine this and it was someone else I stand to be corrected if I am wrong:thinking about:
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #219
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Because we've heard it all before all you have to do is look some of Timmys comments on the same issue and I really believe him dont you?
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Show me where Timmy and SISU have ever made any money from CCFC.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 28, 2013
  • #220
ajsccfc said:
Bit mad, this.
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You seem surprised?
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #221
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I think you forgot to mention also was instrumental in ACLs rental agreement with the club and now says that the club cannot exsist with this rental agreement or did I imagine this and it was someone else I stand to be corrected if I am wrong:thinking about:
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i didnt forget anything, you could list that as an achivement then , as he did a pretty good job for ACL with that agreement ( he was working for ACL at that time remember not CCFC ). although i guess the 'charity' side to him must have still been trying to look out for the club... as didnt he say that he recommended a clause to be included that the rent be reduced if the club were relegated, and the club refused to have this included
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #222
luwalla said:
nah but i did get the info from his profile.. as i think if you are going to start lauding or slating a person who is potentially going to be involved in the club, then the least you can do is actually look at their history of achievements or failures, rather than just make things up.. call it 'due diligence'
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I didn't suggest anything untowards.
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #223
Joy Division said:
I didn't suggest anything untowards.
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i know.. i've not mentioned untoward either.. just answering your query

great avatar art by the way!
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #224
luwalla said:
i didnt forget anything, you could list that as an achivement then , as he did a pretty good job for ACL with that agreement ( he was working for ACL at that time remember not CCFC ). although i guess the 'charity' side to him must have still been trying to look out for the club... as didnt he say that he recommended a clause to be included that the rent be reduced if the club were relegated, and the club refused to have this included
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Poacher turned gamekeeper
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #225
luwalla said:
i know.. i've not mentioned untoward either.. just answering your query
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Good.

Those 'achievements' are taken from his own biog, his own words.
 
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theferret

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  • May 28, 2013
  • #226
luwalla said:
i didnt forget anything, you could list that as an achivement then , as he did a pretty good job for ACL with that agreement ( he was working for ACL at that time remember not CCFC ). although i guess the 'charity' side to him must have still been trying to look out for the club... as didnt he say that he recommended a clause to be included that the rent be reduced if the club were relegated, and the club refused to have this included
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Enough, too many cold hard facts for one day. None of this is written in the scriptures.

Besides, you can list all of PFs achievements if you wish, but the fact remains he has never owned a car accessory shop, or a sunbed, and he does not attend games in a 13 year old Le Coq Sportif CCFC coat. He just isn't one of us.
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #227
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Poacher turned gamekeeper
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as fans thats the way we feel about it i guess.. i felt the same when he was on the radio not so long back. i thought is he having a laugh!

but football is a business.. he was employed by ACL and he got a good deal for ACL... and not too long after he got that deal for ACL we took him from ACL to be chief exec at Coventry.. so we obviously thought he did a good enough job that we wanted him working for us. thats how the world turns im afraid
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #228
Joy Division said:
Good.

Those 'achievements' are taken from his own biog, his own words. Just sayin
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But they also happen to be verifiable and documented facts. Just saying like.
 

covcity4life

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  • May 28, 2013
  • #229
 
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luwalla

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  • May 28, 2013
  • #230
Joy Division said:
Good.

Those 'achievements' are taken from his own biog, his own words. Just sayin
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i never said biog.. and i never said from his own words ... i got this info from various sources including sky, Gaurdian, wikipedia & new york times.. but if you think there are inaccuracies in that info then im happy to be corrected .. just sayin
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 28, 2013
  • #231
fernandopartridge said:
Show me where Timmy and SISU have ever made any money from CCFC.
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If youre going to use my post use it in the context of the subject it was used in ie community benefit.
In answer to your question do you think I'm a magician or maybe KPMG that I or anybody else could work out the financial workings of these people can you?
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #232
theferret said:
But they also happen to be verifiable and documented facts. Just saying like.
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That's good, people should do this more often.

How's that 30 million development of the new stand at Burnley coming along?
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #233
Joy Division said:
That's good, people should do this more often.

How's that 30 million development of the new stand at Burnley coming along?
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I don't know, enlighten me.

I suspect they were shelved after relegation from the PL and the failure to bounce straight back - which is understandable I guess. But you can correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #234
theferret said:
I don't know, enlighten me.

I suspect they were shelved after relegation from the PL and the failure to bounce straight back - which is understandable I guess. But you can correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.
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I don't know, I don't have all the verifiable and documented facts.
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #235
Joy Division said:
I don't know, I don't have all the verifiable and documented facts.
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well paul fletcher is no longer at the club.. and the new stand project came to a grinding halt.

there are two facts
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #236
i'll tell you one thing that would make me trust in any leader of any of these consortiums a little more.. be that elliot, fletcher, or hofman etc.. is if they said they were sticking in a decent size chunk of their own money and were actual financial partners.. rather than just 'faces' heading up groups
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #237
lordsummerisle said:
In the years since posting on here who has there been to back owners or board wise in the years since posting on here and previous to that?

Name them if you can?

Should I back people just because the majority say I should even If I think that they're no good?

No problem with anybody coming in and taking over, but not on blind faith, blind faith just means you end up walking into the road and getting run over, ignoring the people who shout "don't walk into the road, you'll get run over".

In answer to your question who is qualified to decide?

Probably me!
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Very well put. Although there's room for a chicken joke in there, surely? Ideally a Chinese takeaway chicken joke... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c3IZv-tMPU
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #238
luwalla said:
ive never met paul fletcher, so ive no idea if he really is an "arrogant prick". but to fair to the guy, he was chief exec at huddersfield and oversaw an award winning new stadium for them.. he then went onto to be chief exec at Bolton & instigated & oversaw another award winning stadium build in the reebok arena.. he was then poached by the FA & oversaw part of the new wembley arena build before we poached him & he managed the ricoh build... he was then employed as the cheif exec at burnley , and during his time their they were promoted to the premier league

so if we are going to back someone on their past history, i dont think your going to win any arguments with Elliot over Paul Fletcher & his credentials!

that aside, on a personal basis, he may very well be an arrogant prick as you say.. all be it, an arrogant prick with an MBE for services to charity - so at least hes offsetting some of that "prickness" with doing some good for others..
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Well at least he'd be an arrogant prick who is less likely to screw a charity over, then
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #239
fernandopartridge said:
Show me where Timmy and SISU have ever made any money from CCFC.
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Timmy's salary for one thing..
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • May 28, 2013
  • #240
What was the date the administrator was making his decision?
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #241
luwalla said:
well paul fletcher is no longer at the club.. and the new stand project came to a grinding halt.

there are two facts
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If he didn't appoint Brian Laws they might have had a chance of staying up. Masterstroke that one.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #242
mark82 said:
What was the date the administrator was making his decision?
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Isn't the deadline 31st May? Or my birthday. I never get what I want..
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #243
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Isn't the deadline 31st May? Or my birthday. I never get what I want..
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Didn't he ask the court for 6 months more tho :S? I know he said 31 may for bids, but what is the 6 months for?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #244
ccfc92 said:
Didn't he ask the court for 6 months more tho :S? I know he said 31 may for bids, but what is the 6 months for?
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To fully investigate the clusterfuck that is the club I guess, although obviously the FL won't wait that long.
 
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RPHunt

New Member
  • May 28, 2013
  • #245
ccfc92 said:
Didn't he ask the court for 6 months more tho :S? I know he said 31 may for bids, but what is the 6 months for?
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A new Ferrari?
 
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