Ian1779
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But 60000 other people did. Which probably undone an entire season of NOPM.
Whilst the rest of us are trying to starve them of revenue, and before Grendull pipes up , NO I didn't go to Arsenal.
But 60000 other people did. Which probably undone an entire season of NOPM.
As did the sale or Clarke. Or the TV money from Sky. Or any other part of our budget you choose to designate really.
I'm not for wading into these argument as people's opinions are pretty set, but one question I'd ask is: if the fans happiness with the move to Northampton isn't measured by the attendance, what is it measured by?
How else would we get the point across if we're not happy?
I'm not for wading into these argument as people's opinions are pretty set, but one question I'd ask is: if the fans happiness with the move to Northampton isn't measured by the attendance, what is it measured by?
How else would we get the point across if we're not happy?
Active, not passive.
Full, loud attendance at Sixfields. Massive attendance at events in the city, large turnout for a Football League demonstration.
Get people in the habit of saying they're not happy.
Rather than the habit of doing staying at home, the habit that shouts apathy.
The point has been well made. But demonizing those who do attend is shameful and their attendance will change nothing.
Very true... So does that show NOPM as a financial constrait is futile, and the only impact is in terms of the continued absence of the majority of fans?
And after the first few games when nothing at all has changed?
I think at this point you're probably right, as I said people are set. I was mistaken and coming at this from the other end of why tell people they should go.
As a financial constraint, yes. I don't think anyone thought Joy was going to run out of cash, but it certainly means she'll be spending/writing off more than she otherwise would've done. And while it may be petty and pointless, for a lot of people it gives them a sense of control and power in an out of control powerless situation (much like arguing on message boards). It's the same as "Shitfields" and other gallows humour. It's a natural expression of frustration at an inability to change things.
The thing with NOPM has always been that it's detractors label it as one thing and it's proponents another. I've never seen it as 100% financial, mostly moral and just to make a point. Also, there's a case to be made that you can rationalise any protest (or in fact any action full stop) to the level where it's absurd. Not sure it's helpful though.
I suppose the question is: is your point to make others feel bad about their coping mechanism or is there a wider goal?
Yes of course I do. I know that both Torch and Grendel are not perversely obsessed with a demise of any such entity, these Gents are not supporters of Sisu, they're not supporters of ACL/CCC, they don't stand on any either side of the line that is drawn in the sand, among Torch, Grendel and many others we stand on the line, we know mistakes have been made, but we cannot change the past and therefore we support the team, because unfortunately as well as the fans the Clubs players have also suffered greatly for this..
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I think of course that the elephant in the room here (and Grendel hints at this) is that actually nobody does care. That the move to Northampton was the final straw for a lot of people looking to disengage anyway.
People have to do what is right for them. Not going because you believe they shouldn't leave their home town is perfectly understandable, I would never criticise someone for making that choice.
The point I was making is that the idea SISU could be financially starved out as a result of NOPM is misguided.
Instead - What if all those that won't go to Sixfields all went and stood outside Ricoh every game - the publicity that would get would far surpass anything that has happened before. Would still be a NOPM style protest but be far more powerful.
Because she wants to and its her team? Why not buy her a Chelsea shirt for her birthday.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Robo takes the self-disillusioned pompous twat of the year award with this one.
Cringeworthy bollocks of the first order.
'they don't stand on any either side of the line that is drawn in the sand, among Torch, Grendel and many others we stand on the line, we know mistakes have been made, but we cannot change the past and therefore we support the team'
HAHAHAHA what a self deluded cock.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Robo takes the self-disillusioned pompous twat of the year award with this one.
Cringeworthy bollocks of the first order.
'they don't stand on any either side of the line that is drawn in the sand, among Torch, Grendel and many others we stand on the line, we know mistakes have been made, but we cannot change the past and therefore we support the team'
HAHAHAHA what a self deluded cock.
It's clear that when it comes to these kind of arguments between the rabid and real, one side is outnumbered many times to one. But I'd love to know how the collective IQ's stack up.
Me too, but I think you'll find that they probably even out if I'm honest. The funny thing is that someone on here could be calling a rocket scientist a dumb plumb because all he shows is blind passion without reason because it is how he shows love for the club.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Robo takes the self-disillusioned pompous twat of the year award with this one.
Cringeworthy bollocks of the first order.
'they don't stand on any either side of the line that is drawn in the sand, among Torch, Grendel and many others we stand on the line, we know mistakes have been made, but we cannot change the past and therefore we support the team'
HAHAHAHA what a self deluded cock.
Yes of course I do. I know that both Torch and Grendel are not perversely obsessed with a demise of any such entity, these Gents are not supporters of Sisu, they're not supporters of ACL/CCC, they don't stand on any either side of the line that is drawn in the sand, among Torch, Grendel and many others we stand on the line, we know mistakes have been made, but we cannot change the past and therefore we support the team, because unfortunately as well as the fans the Clubs players have also suffered greatly for this..
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Yeah, that's pretty pompous.
If you find yourself declaring yourself the only reasonable person, you're probably wrong.
I hate this holier than thou attitude from some on here. "OH no, I'm far too clever to be drawn into this crap I support the TEAM". Like others don't. I've actually seen some of you claim that people don't support the club because they don't like Sisu's tactics.
Frankly, the story from some is poor old Sixfields attendee suffering the slings and arrows of being true fans, while these stupid other fans are ruining the club and falling for a council conspiracy. It's offensive, it's wrong, and it's pervasive on here. All the while the same people cry bullying should anyone disagree with them.
I never declared myself being reasonable at all?
I also never said I was to clever to be drawn into anything either.
This complete farce of a situation has been generated in my opinion over many of years, I was reading McGinnity's statement yesterday who was slating Sisu and the situation we are in, but I think that hypocritical, Mike McGinnity had a contributing factor as to why we are where we are today and should look at himself in the mirror.
I have said before, there is no such thing as "true fans" or "real fans" we are all fans of our Football Club and we all support our Club in different ways, that being said when a thread starts up about people standing on the hill you don't see many of the posters resembled with attending Sixfields mocking those on the hill or the people who don't even bother attending. Yet the moment we get on to the discussion of Sixfields attendee's there are so many accusations and implications thrown about and it makes you wonder why? I understand Spoinkop GPE and many others are frustrated at our situation, to be fair we all are frustrated, but turning on each other and insulting one another isn't what we should be doing.
I suspect GPE thought he was going to get something more in literate out of me from his post but I won't rise to it. This argument started because some fans are not happy that others are attending Sixfields.
Everyone will make their own choices, I don't attend Sixfields but I respect the choices of those who do and that's how it should all be, but there are some who must realise that positioning the blame to those fans who attend Sixfields is wrong and will only cause further divisions between fans.
Remember "While we sing TOGETHER we will never lose"
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Demonising, turning on the Sixfielders? Oh dear, the poor lambs. If expressing opinion on it that, well, heaven help us.
What we supposed to say, ok chaps, on you go, everything's alright.
It isn't and it's very wrong. No amount of dressing up the argument for going to Sixfields will work. Morally wrong.
An empty stadium will say it all.
Nobody can tell me that happening won't have an impact.
Nice cartoon Schmeee (a welcome bit of fun), but I'm 6'5". & I'd never wear leather.
Demonising, turning on the Sixfielders? Oh dear, the poor lambs. If expressing opinion on it that, well, heaven help us.
What we supposed to say, ok chaps, on you go, everything's alright.
It isn't and it's very wrong. No amount of dressing up the argument for going to Sixfields will work. Morally wrong.
An empty stadium will say it all.
Nobody can tell me that happening won't have an impact.
Nice cartoon Schmeee (a welcome bit of fun), but I'm 6'5". & I'd never wear leather.
I'm morally better than you as I've given less money to SISU than you, so there.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just read it again! Funniest thing on here for years!
Just when you think Robo can’t get any more ridiculous than larding around in a headband outside the council with a Spurs fan and 20 anti-council oddballs, he comes up trumps!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He seems to be a little obsessed Robo, you should check behind the shrubs in your garden before bed.
I am checking under the Pool Table at the Newlands just to make sure he isn't trying to find out my drink preferences..
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A diet virgin cubalibre?
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